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  • #16
    Originally posted by TDK View Post
    We should retain jimmy until Hasting's aims up because Foran has signed with the eels.
    that's what im hearing to.

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    • #17
      I dont see Maloney going he is a solid player and a gun kicker, the cost of foran will be a number of players the value just is not there.
      " A man can only walk as far as he can see"

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      • #18
        Anyone who thinks we should get Kieran Foran to replace James Maloney is no viewer of Rugby League.
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        • #19
          Foran is the ultimate competitor, he's a Josh Reynolds with skill.

          I'd take him in a heartbeat.

          Chook.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by The Axe View Post
            Agree 100%. Cannot see why we are chasing Foran, if true. Are we just pushing up Foran's asking price to chew up Parra/Manly's salary cap?

            Jimmy's goal kicking lone wins us games.
            Yep can't see why people are hating on Jimmy/assuming he's pretty much the walking dead this season.

            Hastings is still a kid and while talented, isn't first pick because Maloney's a better half at present!

            Sure... if he gets offered millions then go for it. However, he's probably not gonna be asking for as much as say DCE, Cronk, JT, (Reynolds/Hodkinson) and potentially guys like Reynolds/Keary.

            Pearce/Hastings are just as likely to run away if offered fat contracts (although sure... Pearce leaving is about as likely as Slater leaving the Storm). Still, who says Maloney has to go, or even wants to go? Or that this will be his last contract!

            All players can potentially get massive offers and I see no issue with this. Loyalty's one thing but there's a point where loyalty and stupidity meet... I don't think Maloney is the only one who would be looking for the best deal out there.

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            • #21
              I can't see any reason to even look at letting Maloney go. The price that Foran will command just isn't worth it. Hastings still has a couple of years to be a fulltime 1st grade player so I think that with Maloney being 28 this year it's working out pretty well.

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              • #22
                I'd be more than happy to offer Jimmy another two year contract at whatever we can realistically afford. Although at 28 he is likely to have maybe 4 years of good football in him. I think a few clubs out there would take the risk of a four year contract at big money but I don't think we will. Time will tell.

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                • #23
                  lets see if jimmy is loyal then
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bigchook View Post
                    I'd be more than happy to offer Jimmy another two year contract at whatever we can realistically afford. Although at 28 he is likely to have maybe 4 years of good football in him. I think a few clubs out there would take the risk of a four year contract at big money but I don't think we will. Time will tell.
                    Yeah we've been burned by slackness in the past when people have signed large contracts (remember the good old back ended days!!)

                    IMO unless you're say Cameron Smith then how you'll be in 4 years time is a massive uncertainty. I would even argue that the Storm will continue to go downhill holding onto Smith, Cronk and Slater. Sure they are pretty safe bets... but I reckon in 4 years time we'll have a seasoned RTS, Pearce/Maloney/Hastings and Friend (who'll possibly take over for QLD if e.g. QLD lose another 2 series') whereas they'll have a grey-haired big 3 on big bucks until retirement.

                    Even doing it for somebody like Yow Yeh ended up burning Brisbane when an injury gave him a disability stopping him from walking properly (still can't believe a broken ankle can end somebody's career no matter how bad!!)

                    People criticise SBW's approach but he delivered!!! $550k a year then we negotiate based on the corcumstances. The NRL isn't handing out cushy government jobs, it's all about private business/contracts. IMO the better players will always be in demand so won't be as keen to sign 4 year contracts on ordinary pay.

                    Smith/Slater/Cronk could probably all get $1 million+ a season in the open market. However, I think all 3 know they could get injured tomorrow, lose form/speed and become liabilities rather than assets. I wouldn't personally want too many stars signing 4 year contracts...

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                    • #25
                      No player, no matter how good is worth a million a season. This isn't soccer or the IPL, this is a glorified local comp that has never reached that highest level. Less people watch league every week than watch college football, which is only watched by less than 5% of the US population of 215 million.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Johnny. View Post
                        No player, no matter how good is worth a million a season. This isn't soccer or the IPL, this is a glorified local comp that has never reached that highest level. Less people watch league every week than watch college football, which is only watched by less than 5% of the US population of 215 million.
                        I'm conscious I've had a few big rants already so will keep it short.

                        While say GI is on 1 million+ a season I agree. It's a team sport and something has to give if 1/6 of your salary is dedicated to one man.

                        With the exception of Souffs last year (who I won't whinge about) I reckon teamsthat throw too much at securing 1 player miss the point.

                        Dragons won in 2010 without any million dollar stars. We won in 2013 (and were minor premiers in 2014) because we had a well balanced set of books with nobody on over 550k (including SBW and Jennings). Manly again... balanced but no million dollar stars. Melbourne? Cheated then did all they could to keep the big 3... which I think they'll end up paying for (although I suspect Smith is really the coach with Slater coaching the backs).

                        Yeah... given the salary cap, I think it's difficult to justify a 1 million dollar player.

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                        • #27
                          Issy, rant all you want, this place is worse than that madhouse Larry Pickering runs.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Johnny. View Post
                            Issy, rant all you want, this place is worse than that madhouse Larry Pickering runs.
                            There's more to it than assigning a dollar value. It all depends on the context of how the team is travelling, the age of the roster, the coaching staff and recent success etc. Do you think Canberra could have bought Jennings for around 400k a season? No chance.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ism22 View Post
                              The NRL isn't handing out cushy government jobs,
                              yes they are just ask Richardson ...
                              The Internet is a place for posting silly things
                              Try and be serious and you will look stupid
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Kingbilly View Post
                                yes they are just ask Richardson ...
                                Well, he sort of has all the cushioning he needs.
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