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  • #16
    Originally posted by artie_beats_them View Post
    They were wrong with Parker, they were wrong with Maloney.

    The point is we can't complain about Soward, it evened up.
    Wrong my friend. Maloney was off the field when Pearce scored, however the try was referred to the video ref, who whilst looking at it, maloney was substituted back in, and when the try was OFFICIALLY awarded, he was legally entitled to take the kick.

    I hope this little rules explanation ends this debate.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by OMR View Post
      Wrong my friend. Maloney was off the field when Pearce scored, however the try was referred to the video ref, who whilst looking at it, maloney was substituted back in, and when the try was OFFICIALLY awarded, he was legally entitled to take the kick.

      I hope this little rules explanation ends this debate.
      Yes, they have now clarified that which is great.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by artie_beats_them View Post
        It evens up as we got a goal from Maloney he was not allowed to kick as he was not on the field when we scored the try.
        Mate, we don't care if an opposition supporter wants to come on here ...they are allowed.
        But at least have the balls to be open about it, and none of this "we" rubbish under a nic with "Artie" in the name.

        Seems very cowardly to me .....are you Darque re-born ?

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        • #19
          ^^^^ my thoughts exactly.

          What a pathetic life one must lead to think pretending to be an opposition supporter on a league forum is fun. I just feel sorry for the loser. He'd probably be better keeping up the charade if he came on here when Souths actually lost. I noticed he was mostly uncited from oct-13 to just before round one... And was definitely absent all of last week!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Hollus View Post
            ^^^^ my thoughts exactly.

            What a pathetic life one must lead to think pretending to be an opposition supporter on a league forum is fun. I just feel sorry for the loser. He'd probably be better keeping up the charade if he came on here when Souths actually lost. I noticed he was mostly uncited from oct-13 to just before round one... And was definitely absent all of last week!
            Here is a shocker ruling that I didnt know existed - checked with afooty ref of mine -

            A Referee should ensure that a kick at goal is taken from the
            place the ball correct position by advising the kicker beforehand. If the
            Referee’s advice is ignored by the kicker no goal shall be
            allowed and the kick shall not be retaken


            So aftre catching soward out fudging the meteres he is supposed to cancel the goal.
            Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Hawkeye View Post
              Mate, we don't care if an opposition supporter wants to come on here ...they are allowed.
              But at least have the balls to be open about it, and none of this "we" rubbish under a nic with "Artie" in the name.

              Seems very cowardly to me .....are you Darque re-born ?
              Not Christian Darque the serial bet whelcher? He came up on a FB discussion I was in and I raised it. Never heard from him again!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by redwhiteblue View Post
                Great..another reason for him to make my skin crawl. He's a deadset arrogant little brat and I sincerely hope Karma Kramer comes back to bite him. I know Riff fans who cannot stand him..not today I'm sure though...
                Well I certainly don't intend to bite him, you never know where it's been!!!!!!!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by artie_beats_them View Post
                  They were wrong with Parker, they were wrong with Maloney.

                  The point is we can't complain about Soward, it evened up.
                  Rubbish! Maloney had returned to thr field before the try was awarded by the vidiot.. Completely legal.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Chook Norris View Post
                    Corey Parker was allowed to under the new concussion rules as Dale Copley (concussed) was off. Under the concussion rules, Parker is allowed to come in as a free substitute as they're unsure whether or not Copley is actually concussed. Thus, the kick was legal. Maloney was not concussed. He came off due to an ankle injury and was substituted back on after we had scored. That was illegal.

                    If Soward had come on in similar circumstances, this place would have exploded, saying that it's 100% proof the NRL are corrupt and want us out of the finals
                    According to Peter Sterling, the fact that Maloney was back on the field BEFORE the try was awarded means that he's eligible to take the kick.

                    If the ref had pointed to the mark when Junior touched down, instead of trying to find any bullshit reason for the video ref to disallow it, then Maloney wouldn't have been on the field and therefore wouldn't have been allowed to take the kick.

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                    • #25
                      Was at the game as well(first game I've been to in about 3 months I'm ashamed to say), sitting just above where the rooster hot seats were. Highlight of the night was the soward is a w@ynekerr chant.

                      The refs in that game were absolutely rubbish to say the least. I knew we were in for a fix after that scrum was ruled the other way after looking at the video, which I thought was not allowed this year. We played pretty shit but we still should have won by 12 had we had a decent ref. I think that this loss will make us stronger. Winning three games in a row to win the premiership for us is very likely, especially considering Friend and guerra will be back. I wanted us to play souffs in the gf, but knocking them out in the qualifier will have to be enough.
                      Comment of the year:

                      Andrew Johns, Semi-Final vs North Queensland ,

                      "It's touched Lui's hand and travelled forward but that's not a knock on"

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                      • #26
                        Was at the game as well (first game I've been to in about 3 months I'm ashamed to say), sitting just above where the rooster hot seats were. Highlight of the night was the soward is a w@ynekerr chant.

                        The refs in that game were absolutely rubbish to say the least. I knew we were in for a fix after that scrum was ruled the other way after looking at the video, which I thought was not allowed this year. We played pretty shit but we still should have won by 12 had we had a decent ref. I think that this loss will make us stronger. Winning three games in a row to win the premiership for us is very likely, especially considering Friend and guerra will be back. I wanted us to play souffs in the gf, but knocking them out in the qualifier will have to be enough.
                        Comment of the year:

                        Andrew Johns, Semi-Final vs North Queensland ,

                        "It's touched Lui's hand and travelled forward but that's not a knock on"

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ism22 View Post
                          I'm over last night but one thing keeps bugging me. End of the day it makes no difference but with his last conversion I was sitting in row C behind it and the following happened:
                          - Soward was going to kick from the sideline. However, his trainer walked up and said 'no, you can kick it from 10m in... do that'
                          - Soward took the ball in 10m and the ref said 'no... from the sideline mate!'
                          - There was a pretty long negotiation after which Soward just put it 10m in anyway, with the ref having to come back and say 'no, I told you from the sideline!!!'
                          - Soward then took it to the sideline and moved it in 5m when the ref wasn't looking. The ref turned around and pretty well went 'aaaaw **** it!!'

                          End of the day Soward kicked a good conversion and while I hate the guy, good on him. BUT does it count when the ref has said 'no you can't kick it from there?!?!?' In the back of my mind I'm still thinking that disobeying the ref when he says 'kick it from here' (and having a heated argument with him) is a bit dodgy.

                          FWIW the try wasn't right in the corner and I think Soward kicked from the right place, but it wasn't where the ref told him to kick from. IMO the trainer advised him to intentionally go out further than he was allowed then argue the point so that he might at least get 1/2 way. Is this a common negotiation tactic?
                          If Mini had off played the percentage risk free play, there would have been no need for that conversion.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by pearcesworstnightmare View Post
                            If Mini had off played the percentage risk free play, there would have been no need for that conversion.
                            If Mini had batted the ball out and they scored off the ensuing dropout or scrum everyone would be bagging Mini heavier for playing at a ball that was a metre over the sideline albeit still in the air.

                            Fact remains PearceOrf gave away a penalty after that, which I still question if he had his hand on the ball as it appeared on replay to have been just dropped.

                            Then we had several sets on possession that we squandered field position and possession in by dropping the ball or missing a FG.

                            Surely we can't discount the 1/7 early pathetic completion rate, the 53% completions which led to a 46% possession rate???

                            Or the diabolical Reffs calls that led to Penwiffs second try.

                            Blaming one play or one player in a game like that is just wrong IMO.

                            Newman would.



                            The FlogPen .

                            You know it makes sense.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by stsae View Post
                              If Mini had batted the ball out and they scored off the ensuing dropout or scrum everyone would be bagging Mini heavier for playing at a ball that was a metre over the sideline albeit still in the air.

                              Fact remains PearceOrf gave away a penalty after that, which I still question if he had his hand on the ball as it appeared on replay to have been just dropped.

                              Then we had several sets on possession that we squandered field position and possession in by dropping the ball or missing a FG.

                              Surely we can't discount the 1/7 early pathetic completion rate, the 53% completions which led to a 46% possession rate???

                              Or the diabolical Reffs calls that led to Penwiffs second try.

                              Blaming one play or one player in a game like that is just wrong IMO.

                              Newman would.

                              Can we blame jennings then for dropping the ball that gave them the last play?

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                              • #30
                                You're right about the Pearce penalty mate, absolute bullshit call. Every time they dropped the ball, it's a penalty for hand on the ball or stripped. Every time we lose it it's a 'loose carry'....

                                Consistency, that's all we want.

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