Tonights Test

[Guest]

A strange misconception on this forum seems to be that JWH has improved his discipline... maybe it's easier to forgive and forget when we're winning games.

Yes he is leading the penalties conceded BUT, and this is the point about stats being mis-leading at times, he isn't giving away the dumb penalties like he was last year. The ones on 4th and 5th tackle for just carrying on a bit in the tackle.
He slipped back into that last night and I hope he watches that game and gets back to how he has been playing.
I agree playing in the middle of the field there is a lot more traffic run at you so you are more likely to be on top of that list. No excuse for skid to be that high though

[Burnt Rooster]

I thought our forwards were pretty well dominated by an under strength kiwi side, till the inevitable happened, and they run out of puff, like most of them do. Tamou was very average, he didn't do his future selections any good at all.

[kakaruk]

I thought jarrods game was average last night, jarod went ok but didnt play to his potential last night.Kenny Dowell was average.The one thing i will say about dowell this year is that he is trying to improve his tackling.His defensive reads are still a worry but the roosters sliding defense has helped a lot there as it is keeping him wider in the line.Hopefully Dowell will get a bit of confidence back and his attacking game will improve for the roosters.

[The Rooster Oracle]

I thought that JWH came in for plenty of extra attention from the Aussie forwards, which didn't help his cause but he still had a solid game. SKD went quite well in the first half, but was rather ordinary in the second half. He is hopeless under the high ball. He knocked one on when defending a bomb and then gave away a stupid penalty by taking Boyd out while the ball was still in the air, just a dumb thing to do.

What really did not impress me with SKD was around the 65th minute mark when GI was coming at him close to the line. GI always makes SKD his bitch, and you could see that SKD was shiting his pants, by backing away and meekly surrendering and allowing GI to easily steamroll him and GI was going to score a try for all money if it wasn't for an outstanding effort by Hoffman to launch his body at him on the try line to prevent him from going over. It was a very pathetic effort by SKD, as you could see that he was not prepared to put his body on the line to prevent a try, unlike what Hoffman was prepared to do. SKD needs some bloody aggression in his defense, such as players like GI and Steve Matai.

In that moment of the test match with GI coming at him close to the line, SKD should have raced up at him and drove his shoulder into his chest and stopped him in his tracks. I am sick to death of watching him shirt grab and not using his shoulders in defense! With his size he could be smashing people in defense and instead of opposition players always seeing him as an easy target, they could be in fear for their lives and wanting to avoid running near him through fear of being smashed in a bone crunching tackle. Unfortunately though with the way things are going that is never going to happen and he will always remain a big target for opposing teams.

[Yak]

I thought the Kiwis got done over last night. Shocking call when Hodges knocked it on and Nightingale tackles him off the ball (which i thought was borderline anyway when you watch it at real speed), but to say the major infringement overrules the minor one they are kidding aren't they. If Hodges catches the ball and Nightingale tackles him its a line drop out but because he drops it and puts on an act they get a penalty. I could maybe understand how that might apply if there was foul play involved but that was a joke.

Also thought the Inglis try was a shocker. In my opinion Smith is directly behind his decoy runner (who does make contact) when he promotes the ball. I didn't think there was sufficient depth to run behind your own man in that case by a long way. No one has a chance to tackle or even pressure Smith because he runs behind his own man. And were my eyes playing tricks on me or did Slater blatantly knock on after the ball came back towards him. He moves his hands towards it as a reflex and his arm hits the ball on the way down and I'm guessing they ruled not played at. Those two calls were massive in the context of the game.

I thought the ruck defence from both teams was pretty terrible. Tamou and Bromwich were best of the props, but most of the metres seemed to be coming from the more mobile forwards who could exploit the poor line speed and lateral movement around the ruck. Australia's on line defence was the difference if you don't take those bad calls into account. Thought SKD defended pretty well, which showed with how quiet Inglis was. NZ would've been much better off putting RTS somewhere in their back 3. All 3 were pretty average, especially defensively and with Johnson not running all night they could have used his footwork, instead of watching Hoffman slip and slide all over the shop.

[stephenj]

skid played his best game this season, but jwh again slipped into giving away penalties, he does enjoy the tough stuff though, even sammy had a pretty good game, im glad roger didnt debut tonight could have put back his development?

[stsae]

A strange misconception on this forum seems to be that JWH has improved his discipline... maybe it's easier to forgive and forget when we're winning games.

Now R6 don't go wrecking the people's faves with those damn stats again. Big Jazza smiles at the ladies, laughs with the fellas and pays attention to all the kiddies.

We all know its only pLOD, Butterball and Friendly who give penalties away.

Still the most penalised player in the comp.

Facts is facts.

[Guest]

Now R6 don't go wrecking the people's faves with those damn stats again. Big Jazza smiles at the ladies, laughs with the fellas and pays attention to all the kiddies.

We all know its only pLOD, Butterball and Friendly who give penalties away.

Still the most penalised player in the comp.

Facts is facts.

you say that mate, and I agree with you, but another fact remains.
jwh and friendy give it their absolute all in every game. fpn is hit and miss.
lod I haven't seen enough of to comment on.

[Geohood]

For what JWH has given us this year I don't mind him giving away the 1 penalty per match he has been.

[davos]

A strange misconception on this forum seems to be that JWH has improved his discipline... maybe it's easier to forgive and forget when we're winning games.

He is the leader of our pack and has to assert his dominance over opposition packs. This is what mainly leads to the penalties.

It is rarely ever offside penalties that he concedes from lack of fitness. We need a fear factor up front in order to have a dominant pack ala the big moz era.

Another stat which you did not mention is the amount of metres he has made per run this year and the magnificent offloads he has got away that have led to trys this year.

When we first signed JWH from manly, I thought he was a stuck up Pr1ck who believed too much of his own hype. I now love the guy and the enthusiasm he brings to our team. Let face it opposition forwards don't fear kennedy, or even lod anymore.He has a big part to play in the future for sure. Fans love him, players love him and probably even sponsors love him....... Captain jared has a nice ring to it doesn't it.

[Guest]

Now R6 don't go wrecking the people's faves with those damn stats again. Big Jazza smiles at the ladies, laughs with the fellas and pays attention to all the kiddies.

We all know its only pLOD, Butterball and Friendly who give penalties away.

Still the most penalised player in the comp.

Facts is facts.

Can you image what this website would be like if it were Mitchell Pearce giving away those penalties?

[Guest]

The stat natzi.... These stats are making me thirsty...

[stsae]

you say that mate, and I agree with you, but another fact remains.
jwh and friendy give it their absolute all in every game. fpn is hit and miss.
lod I haven't seen enough of to comment on.

I love JWH mate. I have no probs with the way he plays.

Fact is he has been the most penalised player in the comp for a few seasons now, in the most heavily penalised team in the comp. He is still our most penalised player this year.

But cos he's so loved by the sheeple others are blamed for his ill discipline like Friendly, Butterball and now pLOD.

I just love pointing out the facts when I see others ignoring them or manipulating them to suit their faves.

While I see JWH has improved his discipline this season so far, last night was a step in the wrong direction.

Why I ask haven't we had calls for Evans/Napa/Bosden/Tasi etc to replace JWH??? If it was anyone else leading the penalty stats we would.

I see some are fan faves some are not.

[stsae]

Can you image what this website would be like if it were Mitchell Pearce giving away those penalties?

Exactly my point mate. Finally someone digs.

[Burnt Rooster]

Good point about Hoffman, Yak, I mentioned in an earlier post, I wouldn't us looking at securing Hoffman, he looks a real talent, and covers fullback, wing, and centre.