ARLC to fine Roosters over SBW contract saga

[stephenj]

i noticed buzz activly criticising sbw in the telucrap this morning, what a surprise? no i didnt buy it, read it over a coffee at cronulla whilst wearing my new represent t shirt , when one idiot complained to me i replied we gave you carney what more do you want, our premierships? he shut up then, i often wear some roosters gear when out and about in the shire, just love to antagonise the locals!

[Guest]

i noticed buzz activly criticising sbw in the telucrap this morning, what a surprise? no i didnt buy it, read it over a coffee at cronulla whilst wearing my new represent t shirt , when one idiot complained to me i replied we gave you carney what more do you want, our premierships? he shut up then, i often wear some roosters gear when out and about in the shire, just love to antagonise the locals!

I buy The Daily Up up Cronulla Telegragh everyday they come in handy for Kleenexing the car windows.
You dont have to buy the Tele every article written by them gets posted on here anyway.

And buzz is cool.

[SConcierge]

THE charade surrounding the return of Sonny Bill Williams has reached farcical proportions and underlines the lack of leadership and strategy when it comes to making big decisions at NRL headquarters.

The Sydney Roosters have been limply slapped with a breach notice for failing to provide salary cap auditor Ian Schubert with enough documentation surrounding the negotiating of the deal.

Talk about being flogged with a wet lettuce.

Although the NRL didn't specify what detail it sought from the Roosters, the fact Williams is represented by unaccredited player agent Khoder Nasser might have something to do with it.

But why are we treating Williams like a criminal because he wants to play in the NRL?

Surely after his five-year purgatory and a $750,000 settlement with the Bulldogs he's paid his dues. Why aren't we celebrating his return?

Especially after the public relations disaster of Israel Folau's botched return and subsequent switch to rugby union. Why does the NRL insist on continually trying to nit-pick with interference? Who's responsible? John Grant? Shane Mattiske? Ian Schubert?



This policy-on-the-run approach is supposedly designed to show what a tough, strong-arm game rugby league is.

If the NRL followed the rules to the letter of the law, Williams wouldn't have been registered because Nasser is not accredited.

If the NRL desperately wants Sonny Bill back in the game, and marketing manager Paul Kind's keenness to use him to promote the 2013 season says they do, why fine the Roosters for making it happen? Let's hope the NRL details the reasons for the breach when it metes out the Roosters' punishment in the new year.

Sydney Roosters chief operating officer of football Brian Canavan told The Sunday Telegraph the club's powerful board would review the breach notice when the NRL outlines the severity of the punishment.

"We're ecstatic that he'll be playing in our colours next year. It's a coup for rugby league to have an elite international athlete of his talent," Canavan said.

"Once the breach is received it will be considered by our board.

"The process was exhaustive. From our perspective, it's what legal people call a vanilla contract. It's very straight forward.

"There are no third-party agreements or anything like that in it. It's just a straight contract amount.

"Sonny Bill's history is not the norm but we just wanted him to come back to our club and to play rugby league. To me, it's a coup that he's playing rugby league once again."



<<<<SO wots the problem lol, its only a matter of time before a player takes the league to court over the cap... they reported Shuey wanted to include the fight money now thats comical on the NRL's part... does them mean if a player has a coffee shop the taking need to be included?>>>>>>>>

[kurtsherlock6]

THE charade surrounding the return of Sonny Bill Williams has reached farcical proportions and underlines the lack of leadership and strategy when it comes to making big decisions at NRL headquarters.

The Sydney Roosters have been limply slapped with a breach notice for failing to provide salary cap auditor Ian Schubert with enough documentation surrounding the negotiating of the deal.

Talk about being flogged with a wet lettuce.

Although the NRL didn't specify what detail it sought from the Roosters, the fact Williams is represented by unaccredited player agent Khoder Nasser might have something to do with it.

But why are we treating Williams like a criminal because he wants to play in the NRL?

Surely after his five-year purgatory and a $750,000 settlement with the Bulldogs he's paid his dues. Why aren't we celebrating his return?

Especially after the public relations disaster of Israel Folau's botched return and subsequent switch to rugby union. Why does the NRL insist on continually trying to nit-pick with interference? Who's responsible? John Grant? Shane Mattiske? Ian Schubert?



This policy-on-the-run approach is supposedly designed to show what a tough, strong-arm game rugby league is.

If the NRL followed the rules to the letter of the law, Williams wouldn't have been registered because Nasser is not accredited.

If the NRL desperately wants Sonny Bill back in the game, and marketing manager Paul Kind's keenness to use him to promote the 2013 season says they do, why fine the Roosters for making it happen? Let's hope the NRL details the reasons for the breach when it metes out the Roosters' punishment in the new year.

Sydney Roosters chief operating officer of football Brian Canavan told The Sunday Telegraph the club's powerful board would review the breach notice when the NRL outlines the severity of the punishment.

"We're ecstatic that he'll be playing in our colours next year. It's a coup for rugby league to have an elite international athlete of his talent," Canavan said.

"Once the breach is received it will be considered by our board.

"The process was exhaustive. From our perspective, it's what legal people call a vanilla contract. It's very straight forward.

"There are no third-party agreements or anything like that in it. It's just a straight contract amount.

"Sonny Bill's history is not the norm but we just wanted him to come back to our club and to play rugby league. To me, it's a coup that he's playing rugby league once again."



<<<<SO wots the problem lol, its only a matter of time before a player takes the league to court over the cap... they reported Shuey wanted to include the fight money now thats comical on the NRL's part... does them mean if a player has a coffee shop the taking need to be included?>>>>>>>>

Agree. I also think Shuey is just trying to play the big man & justify his position.

[Guest]

All we did is get a lawyer, who is a mad roosters supporter and member, to sit next to SBW to sign the contract. Hardly worth a fine

[theGman]

All we did is get a lawyer, who is a mad roosters supporter and member, to sit next to SBW to sign the contract. Hardly worth a fine

hahahahaha........love it! Uncle Nick style

[PKR]

Bs
Is brian smith back

Not that sort of BS. Ha Ha

[Guest]

I do the same thing. My kids play soccer in the Shire and I always where my rooster cap and jacket to their games. I usually get a comment. Always proud to show my rooster colours

[Guest]

FOOTBALL^not soccer

[rooster_booster]

But St George could sign dual international Gasnier on a $50k contract with no questions asked? And the Dogs can sign an international every second week with no questions asked? The whole business is a farce.
I think the time is right to burst this salary cap restraint of trade bubble and take the bastards to court. What other occupation imposes such restraints on the earning power of individuals?

MG already tried this didnt he?

In any case, if they did away with the salary cap it would signal the end of more than half the clubs and the NRL as we know it. Pro sports without salary caps are in the extreme minority and they are traditionally top heavy, boring and predictable (see EPL or MLB)

[The Axe]

MG already tried this didnt he?

In any case, if they did away with the salary cap it would signal the end of more than half the clubs and the NRL as we know it. Pro sports without salary caps are in the extreme minority and they are traditionally top heavy, boring and predictable (see EPL or MLB)

RB,
Don't know about MG but Dennis Tutty took on the then salary cap in the 70s/80s and won. With limited law knowledge, I'm told by solicitors that our restraint of trade laws are amongst our strongest and would favour someone taking them on.

[SConcierge]

RB,
Don't know about MG but Dennis Tutty took on the then salary cap in the 70s/80s and won. With limited law knowledge, I'm told by solicitors that our restraint of trade laws are amongst our strongest and would favour someone taking them on.

I think ur correct there mate, didnt tezza do something similar when he was drafted for easts?

[The Axe]

I think ur correct there mate, didnt tezza do something similar when he was drafted for easts?

I'm not good at linking etc but this is from Wikipedia

"In March, 1968, citing unhappiness with the terms of his contract, Tutty applied to the Tigers for a clearance to play with another club. At the time, clubs were able to prevent any professional player who had played in one of its teams from playing with any other club, even if the player no longer played for the retaining club. The request was refused and Tutty then lodged an appeal with the New South Wales Rugby League. In May, he withdrew the appeal before it was heard and agreed to play for Balmain for the 1968 season for an increased remuneration. At the end of the 1968 season, Tutty applied once more to be placed on the transfer list but he was again refused and his name was placed on the 'retain' list. Tutty did not appeal the second refusal but sat out the 1969 season, not playing for any team.

Tutty commenced legal action in May, 1969. He fought for over two years for the right for players to transfer to another club. The New South Wales Equity Court granted Tutty's application to have the League's transfer system declared invalid, deeming it an 'unreasonable restraint of trade'. The League appealed to the High Court of Australia but on 13 December 1971, the High Court's judgement upheld the Equity Court's decision. The implications of Tutty's successful legal action were quickly felt throughout the game. In the first two months, South Sydney lost three internationals, John O'Neill, Ray Branighan and Ron Coote.After two years sitting out of the game, and while still waiting for a legal decision, Tutty returned to play for Balmain during 1971. He played seventeen games but did not receive any remuneration from the club. Tutty was free to play for the Penrith Panthers in 1972 and he remained with the club for three seasons.

In 1975, Tutty moved to Eastern Suburbs. A broken arm during the season prevented him from participating in Easts' 38–0 win over St. George in the grand final.
Tutty spent his final year in first-grade, 1976, back at Balmain."


Lol Souffs

[SConcierge]

I'm not good at linking etc but this is from Wikipedia

"In March, 1968, citing unhappiness with the terms of his contract, Tutty applied to the Tigers for a clearance to play with another club. At the time, clubs were able to prevent any professional player who had played in one of its teams from playing with any other club, even if the player no longer played for the retaining club. The request was refused and Tutty then lodged an appeal with the New South Wales Rugby League. In May, he withdrew the appeal before it was heard and agreed to play for Balmain for the 1968 season for an increased remuneration. At the end of the 1968 season, Tutty applied once more to be placed on the transfer list but he was again refused and his name was placed on the 'retain' list. Tutty did not appeal the second refusal but sat out the 1969 season, not playing for any team.

Tutty commenced legal action in May, 1969. He fought for over two years for the right for players to transfer to another club. The New South Wales Equity Court granted Tutty's application to have the League's transfer system declared invalid, deeming it an 'unreasonable restraint of trade'. The League appealed to the High Court of Australia but on 13 December 1971, the High Court's judgement upheld the Equity Court's decision. The implications of Tutty's successful legal action were quickly felt throughout the game. In the first two months, South Sydney lost three internationals, John O'Neill, Ray Branighan and Ron Coote.After two years sitting out of the game, and while still waiting for a legal decision, Tutty returned to play for Balmain during 1971. He played seventeen games but did not receive any remuneration from the club. Tutty was free to play for the Penrith Panthers in 1972 and he remained with the club for three seasons.

In 1975, Tutty moved to Eastern Suburbs. A broken arm during the season prevented him from participating in Easts' 38–0 win over St. George in the grand final.
Tutty spent his final year in first-grade, 1976, back at Balmain."


Lol Souffs

Re Tezza terry hill

Hill became embroiled in the "External and Internal Draft" system in the 1991 season when, after agreeing to a playing and employment deal with the Western Suburbs Magpies, he was drafted from the Internal Draft pool by Eastern Suburbs. Hill's initial appeal was overturned and he eventually agreed to a three year contract with Easts. By the end of 1991 the High Court had overturned the draft system and in 1992 Hill was given a release and he was able to move on to Western Suburbs Magpies.[1]

mate is u want to do a link go to the top of the page ur page see the http//www ect (this is the web page addy copy that whole address and past it in this reply box
have a crack its easy
go easts

[Guest]

SC & The Axe what Spirit 66 is talking about is restaint of earnings to do with the salary cap.

Your right, Hill & Tutty went to court over the draft system.