Prenter Makes Big Call

[Guest]

Lol..

No you don't Teabags..

No you don't..

[SConcierge]

Others couldn't care less about that, but are concerned about devoting so much money to signing a guy for one season who appears to have no loyalty to anyone but himself and whose desire to even play the code has been called into question. For long time Roosters fans, his signing comes straight out of the transit lounge handbook. Others are concerned about how his signing will effect the culture at the club - a culture that is hopefully moving away from those dark days. We want guys who want to be here, and want to build a career here. What effect will he have on the younger, impressionable players? Positive or negative? How do you go about building a team/squad by having your highest priced on a one year deal? What about the effect of his wanker manager? And for all the adulation that surrounds his footballing ability, how will he go back in the pressure cooker of the NRL after wandering around in the centres in Rugby Union for the last hew years? These are all valid considerations

You oversimplify things big time by imagining what he did to the bulldogs is the only thing that concerns Roosters fans re his signing.

Me, I remember seeing his debut against Parramatta on that Friday night way back when and thinking "who the hell is this guy". In terms of his league career since that night, I think I've missed watching maybe 2 or 3 games that he's played in. It's understating things to say he was a pleasure to watch.

I'm excited about the prospect of him being here, and hope desperately he can contribute what he contributed at the Bulldogs. I have to admit though, I'd have been a lot more excited had he come here back in 2004, or at least before he ventured into dealing with Nasser, Union, and now boxing. I think there's a real possibility that he won't contribute anything like what we hope he will

God I hope I'm wrong though

Loyalty LOL its almost 2013 mate wake up that died years ago, football players are now commodities, thats why players like JT are on the open market they want to test their values, your loyalty line is BS.

How do you know SWB will be the highest priced player?? Let me answer for you, you dont so why post BS just because you are a death rider.

How will it affect the culture of the club, I get tell you I bumped into JHW and he is jumping out of his skin to play with him.

[Guest]

Football royalty put bucks before loyalty to crack the codes

He looks so good, that Sonny Quade-Folau. He is the ultimate first choice athlete. The man who has football administrators throwing $100 notes like confetti. The dynamic ball of muscle the Olympic sports can't even dream of getting in a rowboat or on a badminton court. This guy does not play for gold medal bling and peanuts.

Sonny Quade-Folau is the X-factor. The man you think can push your club through the premiership window, or drag it from the floor. Who can attract TV eyeballs and convert those impressionable kids. A gun for hire in the battle of the codes.

But before you book the luxury yacht and prepare to wine and dine him, there are a few things you should know. Things that should be tattooed in capital letters on this ultimate Generation Y athlete, if there was room left. When you play with Sonny Quade-Folau, you play by his rules.

No disrespect to you or your game - rugby league, is it? But Sonny Quade-Folau is a man in demand. He may not be tied down by dated conventions such as multi-year contracts or - can you believe people still use this term? - club loyalty. He is here for a pay time, not for a long time.
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Yes, Sonny Quade-Folau is eternally grateful your code has identified his talents and made him a lucrative offer - an eternity, for him, being the time between eating breakfast and tweeting that it was scrambled eggs on toast. But don't spend too long working out the details. After all, in the month it takes you to balance the salary cap, Sonny Quade Tippett-Folau could have done lucrative guest stints in Japan and France and fought on the Anthony Mundine undercard.

But let's say Sonny Quade-Folau agrees to join your rugby league. Don't expect him to do handstands for the media, or to say he is eternally grateful to play this great game, or that he feels like he is coming home (''I have played this game before haven't I? It's the one where you get four points for a try and those people from Queensland keep nagging you to say you were born in Ipswich?'')

Sonny Quade-Folau will only do a press conference to announce his new deal if he can also promote his next fight and make it clear to his old paymasters at rugby union or the AFL or the International Marbles Association that - wink, wink - I'm not gone forever. Maybe only a one-year deal here. Don't be strangers next September.

To be fair, Sonny Quade-Folau does not lead you down the garden path. It might be Christmas, but he makes it perfectly clear the only clause he may believe in is the get-out clause. The one that ensures his ''loyalty'' is fully transportable. So don't blame him after that big win when he sings the wrong song or fret that he calls everyone at the club ''mate''. Can't expect him to remember a new bunch of teammates every season.

Which is not to say Sonny Quade-Folau will not abide by team rules. He even took the trouble to write them down for you. Preferred position, required personal training staff and, of course, the time off needed for those pay-per-view bouts. There are photocopies for the coaches and the team. Do you mind handing them out? Sonny Quade has a personal sponsorship commitment?

What's that? You've seen him do three laps in sport's revolving door, read his demands and you are still interested? You think taking over his multimillion-dollar contract will be a coup for club and code? That all those people who were supposed to have become baked-on supporters watching him play another game will now follow yours?

Don't you see the absurdity in that logic? That the loyalty of the supporters who follow Sonny Quade-Folau from one sport to another is as disposable as his. That the humiliation these inter-code footballing freelancers may inflict upon your code, and your clubs, is greater than the exposure they bring?

Until you work that out, Sonny Quade-Folau will have you over a barrel.

rhinds@fairfaxmedia.com.au

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...#ixzz2E1whhaUF

[Guest]

Football royalty put bucks before loyalty to crack the codes

He looks so good, that Sonny Quade-Folau. He is the ultimate first choice athlete. The man who has football administrators throwing $100 notes like confetti. The dynamic ball of muscle the Olympic sports can't even dream of getting in a rowboat or on a badminton court. This guy does not play for gold medal bling and peanuts.

Sonny Quade-Folau is the X-factor. The man you think can push your club through the premiership window, or drag it from the floor. Who can attract TV eyeballs and convert those impressionable kids. A gun for hire in the battle of the codes.

But before you book the luxury yacht and prepare to wine and dine him, there are a few things you should know. Things that should be tattooed in capital letters on this ultimate Generation Y athlete, if there was room left. When you play with Sonny Quade-Folau, you play by his rules.

No disrespect to you or your game - rugby league, is it? But Sonny Quade-Folau is a man in demand. He may not be tied down by dated conventions such as multi-year contracts or - can you believe people still use this term? - club loyalty. He is here for a pay time, not for a long time.
Advertisement

Yes, Sonny Quade-Folau is eternally grateful your code has identified his talents and made him a lucrative offer - an eternity, for him, being the time between eating breakfast and tweeting that it was scrambled eggs on toast. But don't spend too long working out the details. After all, in the month it takes you to balance the salary cap, Sonny Quade Tippett-Folau could have done lucrative guest stints in Japan and France and fought on the Anthony Mundine undercard.

But let's say Sonny Quade-Folau agrees to join your rugby league. Don't expect him to do handstands for the media, or to say he is eternally grateful to play this great game, or that he feels like he is coming home (''I have played this game before haven't I? It's the one where you get four points for a try and those people from Queensland keep nagging you to say you were born in Ipswich?'')

Sonny Quade-Folau will only do a press conference to announce his new deal if he can also promote his next fight and make it clear to his old paymasters at rugby union or the AFL or the International Marbles Association that - wink, wink - I'm not gone forever. Maybe only a one-year deal here. Don't be strangers next September.

To be fair, Sonny Quade-Folau does not lead you down the garden path. It might be Christmas, but he makes it perfectly clear the only clause he may believe in is the get-out clause. The one that ensures his ''loyalty'' is fully transportable. So don't blame him after that big win when he sings the wrong song or fret that he calls everyone at the club ''mate''. Can't expect him to remember a new bunch of teammates every season.

Which is not to say Sonny Quade-Folau will not abide by team rules. He even took the trouble to write them down for you. Preferred position, required personal training staff and, of course, the time off needed for those pay-per-view bouts. There are photocopies for the coaches and the team. Do you mind handing them out? Sonny Quade has a personal sponsorship commitment?

What's that? You've seen him do three laps in sport's revolving door, read his demands and you are still interested? You think taking over his multimillion-dollar contract will be a coup for club and code? That all those people who were supposed to have become baked-on supporters watching him play another game will now follow yours?

Don't you see the absurdity in that logic? That the loyalty of the supporters who follow Sonny Quade-Folau from one sport to another is as disposable as his. That the humiliation these inter-code footballing freelancers may inflict upon your code, and your clubs, is greater than the exposure they bring?

Until you work that out, Sonny Quade-Folau will have you over a barrel.

rhinds@fairfaxmedia.com.au

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...#ixzz2E1whhaUF

So still nothing positive hey Teabags??..

Soo soo predictable..

[stsae]

So still nothing positive hey Teabags??..

Soo soo predictable..

Teabags using an article generalizing about 3 players whose situations are completely different, written by some media whore, talking the old "loyalty" card.

Maybe Dickhead Hinds is looking to change papers himself??? Like a job interview???

[Guest]

Teabags using an article generalizing about 3 players whose situations are completely different, written by some media whore, talking the old "loyalty" card.

Maybe Dickhead Hinds is looking to change papers himself??? Like a job interview???

You're really quite a narc aren't you mate? It's just an article that relates to the topic at hand. Just posted for those here who may not read the herald. It's really not such a big deal that you have to jump up and down about it...Make a sensible comment that contributes if you wish, if not maybe leave it alone and find something else to do?

[Guest]

You're really quite a narc aren't you mate? It's just an article that relates to the topic at hand. Just posted for those here who may not read the herald. It's really not such a big deal that you have to jump up and down about it...Make a sensible comment that contributes if you wish, if not maybe leave it alone and find something else to do?

If you had posted even ONE positive piece about the club people may lay off you sport..

But we know what you are..

[stsae]

You're really quite a narc aren't you mate? It's just an article that relates to the topic at hand. Just posted for those here who may not read the herald. It's really not such a big deal that you have to jump up and down about it...Make a sensible comment that contributes if you wish, if not maybe leave it alone and find something else to do?

What exactly is a narc mate??? The writer of the article??? Or the one who reprints it here??? Or the one who dares disagree with it???

I did make sensible comment on the topic at hand. A so called sports journo using 3 separate situations to write a one sided piece in an attempt to make a social commentary on the "loyalty" of athletes in pro sports. I see nothing written about "loyalty" of clubs. Balance???

I'm not jumping up and down, the writer of the article is though. So are you it would seem.

If you don't like people to comment on what you've chucked out there, then take some of your own advice and maybe leave it alone and find something else to do.

Did you expect your post to just be agreed with Teabags???

I sometimes comment positively about what you write, I did so yesterday from memory. Am I not allowed to express my opinion on my teams forum???

Your hacker called me weird under your nic. I dig now, he was looking in a mirror.

[Salvatori Grubber]

Yeah - I think Stsae is right on this.

I read that article this morning and couldn't believe just how bad it was - biggest straw man ever. And he has a dig at this fictitious footballer's Twitter usage, and then ends the article with his own Twitter address.

The hypocrisy from the media knows no bounds. Older journalists' inability to relate to the next generation of footballers is getting tedious in the extreme.

[ism22]

Since 2010 we have not fielded a team with a player of this class (2011 doesn't count.)

My feeling is that we're at least giving the team a bloody chance by signing SBW. Who was our biggest star last year... coin toss between Pearce and SKD?

SBW Is a no brainer for the NZ squad and people love to hate him because he makes an impact! We won't be the whipping boys this season... put it that way.

[theGman]

Since 2010 we have not fielded a team with a player of this class (2011 doesn't count.)
My feeling is that we're at least giving the team a bloody chance by signing SBW. Who was our biggest star last year... coin toss between Pearce and SKD?
SBW Is a no brainer for the NZ squad and people love to hate him because he makes an impact! We won't be the whipping boys this season... put it that way.

Is that a typo or are you being facetious about SKD being one of our stars last year? If not your off your head about SKD. He missed the first 6 or so weeks, got injured again, returned and played rocks & diamonds for the rest of the year. SKD needs to shape up big time.

[The Axe]

I found the article most interesting. Well written.
Just because you may not agree with his sentiment does not mean it is not a well thought out and put together piece.
Thanks for posting this TTW

[SConcierge]

I found the article most interesting. Well written.
Just because you may not agree with his sentiment does not mean it is not a well thought out and put together piece.
Thanks for posting this TTW

I thought it was a cheaply written poor opinion story and nothing more. I dont understand what gives these guys the right to play the loyalty card it died years ago from the clubs aspect as well as the players. The fans are the only loyal ones, the biggest disloyal grubs are the so called writers who dont report anymore they only write opinion pieces and try to manipulate situations.

[Salvatori Grubber]

Indeed. The bellhop is spot-on in his summation.

The Axe should re-read it and this time bear in mind that the reporter has decided to lump 3 unrelated athletes with entirely different backstories into 1, in an effort to 'prove' some point about the youth of today.

No mention of drug-taking GenX-ers who massively dudded the game, nor cap-rorting Baby Boomer Execs from recent history.

[Guest]

Indeed. The bellhop is spot-on in his summation.

The Axe should re-read it and this time bear in mind that the reporter has decided to lump 3 unrelated athletes with entirely different backstories into 1, in an effort to 'prove' some point about the youth of today.

No mention of drug-taking GenX-ers who massively dudded the game, nor cap-rorting Baby Boomer Execs from recent history.

And he has barely even done that. To me it was a poorly written article on the admittedly dubious journey of SBW with the slightest acknowledgement of the other 2, just to make it appear as though the same form of disloyalty is becoming commonplace.