Ch9...wiedler report Smith on the outer

[Guest]

His sides have been in the top 2 for defence since 2005. That'll do me to start with.

And there lies the key ingredient to success...

[mightyrooster]

Maybe they realised the folly in trying to build a team around a coach who everybody knows will be leaving. If Taylor is good enough to have the job for one year, forget paying millions for Bellamy and give Taylor a decent crack

Or maybe they planned on getting Hasler on board in 2012 all along and just used Dymock while plotting the whole time behind the scene to get Manly to sack Hasler!

[The Brain]

Min to be Captain Coach

[Guest]

Or maybe they planned on getting Hasler on board in 2012 all along and just used Dymock while plotting the whole time behind the scene to get Manly to sack Hasler!

Quite possibly, and from manly's point of view, perhaps they also didn't want a coach (albeit the incumbent) who everyone knew was only going to be there for 1 year.

If we sign Taylor for only 1 year, 2 things can happen;

He doesn't have time to get the joint moving, develop players, or even operate with his own roster, and we have a pointless, wasted season

He does well, produces some results and is building to something, and is then flicked and Bellamy (or whoever) has to start over. Might also have players wanting to go with him to wherever he moves on to

Either way, we lose.

[Guest]

His sides have been in the top 2 for defence since 2005. That'll do me to start with.

Might have something to do with his wrestling coaches and unlimited salary cap.

[The Brain]

Whats available ?Only Bellamy of any quality and thats in one years time or we do a Hasler.
Ive already heard Nicks baulked at his asking price .

[mightyrooster]

Quite possibly, and from manly's point of view, perhaps they also didn't want a coach (albeit the incumbent) who everyone knew was only going to be there for 1 year.

If we sign Taylor for only 1 year, 2 things can happen;

He doesn't have time to get the joint moving, develop players, or even operate with his own roster, and we have a pointless, wasted season

He does well, produces some results and is building to something, and is then flicked and Bellamy (or whoever) has to start over. Might also have players wanting to go with him to wherever he moves on to

Either way, we lose.

Which is why it makes more sense to make Smith see out his contract if Bellamy isn't coming till 2014. But if he isn't coming at all then the obvious thing is to give Taylor (or someone else) a 2 year contract from next year and see how he goes.
What looks like happening though is an interim coach for a year while Nick tries to hook a big name for 2014 and that to me is just dumb. But our club is known to be dumb about coaching issues in the past.

[Cockadoodledoo]

Whether Taylor has other options or not, to bring him here on a one year deal would be a ridiculous call, and one only Politis could make. It's just such a typical Politis move. Go into the market and pay a fortune for someone who's supposedly near the top of the tree, and expect that they'll have the same results at this basket case of a joint (with Politis sticking his nose into everything) that they had elsewhere.

And what happens if Taylor goes great with us in the year that he's here?

Politis is a loon

My point being if the club was to secure Bellamy (hypothetical but you and I know the club are chasing him hard) then we would already the coaching issue sorted out from 2014 onwards. The next step would be to plan for what to do for the one year in between which leaves only 2 options. Keep Smith, it is clear that is not working or find a 1 year interim.

Given Taylor is here, has worked with a lot of the players and his alternative is not to coach first grade, he is more likely to want the job as he gets the opportunity to show what he can do and increase his marketability for the future. If he has a great year then so what, it just means Bellamy comes to a club which is on the up and he can build on this. It also enahnces Taylors prospects of getting an NRL coaching gig elsewhere long term.

Of course there is the possibility that if the club gets Bellamy, then we may see a Hasler type situation where the Storm decide to cut him loose.. Again this works in our favour.. Bellamy to me is such a proven professional that it would not surprise me to see him still stay at the Storm in 2013.

Remember this is on the basis the club got Bellamy. If they miss out then the club needs to appoint a long term coach which may or may not be Taylor.

[Guest]

My point being if the club was to secure Bellamy (hypothetical but you and I know the club are chasing him hard) then we would already the coaching issue sorted out from 2014 onwards. The next step would be to plan for what to do for the one year in between which leaves only 2 options. Keep Smith, it is clear that is not working or find a 1 year interim.

Given Taylor is here, has worked with a lot of the players and his alternative is not to coach first grade, he is more likely to want the job as he gets the opportunity to show what he can do and increase his marketability for the future. If he has a great year then so what, it just means Bellamy comes to a club which is on the up and he can build on this. It also enahnces Taylors prospects of getting an NRL coaching gig elsewhere long term.

Of course there is the possibility that if the club gets Bellamy, then we may see a Hasler type situation where the Storm decide to cut him loose.. Again this works in our favour.. Bellamy to me is such a proven professional that it would not surprise me to see him still stay at the Storm in 2013.

Remember this is on the basis the club got Bellamy. If they miss out then the club needs to appoint a long term coach which may or may not be Taylor.

Yeah, those are all fair points.

I agree keeping Smith is untenable, but just not sold on the idea of having Taylor (who I rate) for only 1 year.

I reckon if Bellamy is a no go until 2014, forget about him. Give Taylor (or someone else if they don't want to go with him) the gig for 3 years, and let him build something, without any interference of any sort from Politis

[Cockadoodledoo]

Yeah, those are all fair points.

I agree keeping Smith is untenable, but just not sold on the idea of having Taylor (who I rate) for only 1 year.

I reckon if Bellamy is a no go until 2014, forget about him. Give Taylor (or someone else if they don't want to go with him) the gig for 3 years, and let him build something, without any interference of any sort from Politis

This to me is a big factor as to why Bellamy would be good for the club.. He would take shit from no one, Politis included..

[redwhiteblue]

Again...for the last time...Bellamy is NOT coming.

Melon, you can't put brains in statues. Or ears for that matter..Those who think Bellamy is coming believe in the tooth fairy as well.

[Guest]

Melon, you can't put brains in statues. Or ears for that matter..Those who think Bellamy is coming believe in the tooth fairy as well.

You are actually describing those that want smith & son to stay.

[Spirit of 66]

Melon, you can't put brains in statues. Or ears for that matter..Those who think Bellamy is coming believe in the tooth fairy as well.

The Tooth Fairy will be the defence coach.

[chook 56]

The Tooth Fairy will be the defence coach.

Won't happen......TF has a full time job at $ouff$

[Spirit of 66]

Won't happen......TF has a full time job at $ouff$

Surely his role has ended there. When was the last time you spotted a tooth anywhere in Redfern?