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What do you call the absence of both Kasiano and Graham replacing them with Taupau and Gavet (one with a handful of FG games and the other on debut) and he was best on ground imo against a all International front row and origin standard backrow. Besides decent leaders can overcome the loss of a few players, hell even the cowboys have a winning percentage without JT over the past couple years.

I never argued Tolman's performance, I thought he was sensational and have been a massive fan of his since his Toyota Cup days so don't try to bring me in on that.

Why is everything a comparison with the Cobwoys, why is Parker's record as a captain when the Broncos loose half a dozen players comparable to when the Cowboys loose one player? Was Mal Meninga a shit leader because he lost 3 origin series straight? Will Paul Gallen be considered a shit leader if NSW loose the next origin series thus equaling Meninga's record? The role of a captain in Rugby League has such a minor effect on the result I can't believe I'm even arguing it, it's not like being a captain in cricket where all the tactical decisions lay on your shoulders. You flip a coin, you choose which way to run and you give a speech after the team cops a try.

If you don't think Parker is good leader then I'll just agree to disagree, the reason I brought up the fact that he had captained his club side was in support of my argument that he is and is obviously seen as such by the club. If not for the fear of loosing Thaiday there's always been the belief that he would be the captain now.

What broncos supporters? The experts like yourselves that must always have scapegoats when the team is going bad?

I blame a scapegoat every time a team is going poorly? How did you come to that conclusion?

Ok so does Lewis, Stewart, Johnson, Cordner, Crocker, Hinchcliffe etc all play that style?

How about you take your own advice and stop assuming things yourself

Assuming things would be to make the assumption that just because Glen Stewart wears the number 13 jumper he plays at lock. This basically confirms my suspicion that outside of Cowboys games you actually watch very little footy and of those games you do watch you don't play very close attention because Stewart has been playing on the right hand fringe for a number of years now. His combination with Jamie Lyon has been one of the most dynamic pairings in the competition... seriously, what planet have you been living on? Even Ricky Stuart figured that one out in time for Origin...

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Massive fan of Tolman. I do think his future is at lock though.

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Massive fan of Tolman. I do think his future is at lock though.

His role wouldn't change, why do you say that?

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I never argued Tolman's performance, I thought he was sensational and have been a massive fan of his since his Toyota Cup days so don't try to bring me in on that.

Why is everything a comparison with the Cobwoys, why is Parker's record as a captain when the Broncos loose half a dozen players comparable to when the Cowboys loose one player? Was Mal Meninga a shit leader because he lost 3 origin series straight? Will Paul Gallen be considered a shit leader if NSW loose the next origin series thus equaling Meninga's record? The role of a captain in Rugby League has such a minor effect on the result I can't believe I'm even arguing it, it's not like being a captain in cricket where all the tactical decisions lay on your shoulders. You flip a coin, you choose which way to run and you give a speech after the team cops a try.

If you don't think Parker is good leader then I'll just agree to disagree, the reason I brought up the fact that he had captained his club side was in support of my argument that he is and is obviously seen as such by the club. If not for the fear of loosing Thaiday there's always been the belief that he would be the captain now.



I blame a scapegoat every time a team is going poorly? How did you come to that conclusion?



Assuming things would be to make the assumption that just because Glen Stewart wears the number 13 jumper he plays at lock. This basically confirms my suspicion that outside of Cowboys games you actually watch very little footy and of those games you do watch you don't play very close attention because Stewart has been playing on the right hand fringe for a number of years now. His combination with Jamie Lyon has been one of the most dynamic pairings in the competition... seriously, what planet have you been living on? Even Ricky Stuart figured that one out in time for Origin...

So Tate, Scott and now Tamou don't exist? We have won without them too over the last couple of years. So how come Parker lost his first what 6 or 7 games as captain isn't a sign of poor leadership when the cowboys are missing just as many players yet still winning.

Exactly so no matter how you play there will always be a scapegoat, the week before Gillett had a 80 minute game with an involvement of 15 runs for 115m, 30 tackles and 4 offloads. NO errors or penalties conceeded, but some joker believes he has been sh*t for a couple of months? LOL. He had a off game and there are always supporters with short memories.

So he plays as a lock but because he doesn't fit your description of a ''modern day'' lock that is like a 3rd prop he somehow isn't playing lock? LOL.

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His role wouldn't change, why do you say that?

Just a feeling. I see him later in his career making less metres but more tackles, becoming a hybrid of Fensom and Gallen.

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So Tate, Scott and now Tamou don't exist? We have won without them too over the last couple of years. So how come Parker lost his first what 6 or 7 games as captain isn't a sign of poor leadership when the cowboys are missing just as many players yet still winning.

You said without Thurston, you never said during the oirgin period, try to stay consistent. Parker isn't the reason they lost games without their origin stars, if you believe so then so be it.

Exactly so no matter how you play there will always be a scapegoat, the week before Gillett had a 80 minute game with an involvement of 15 runs for 115m, 30 tackles and 4 offloads. NO errors or penalties conceeded, but some joker believes he has been sh*t for a couple of months? LOL. He had a off game and there are always supporters with short memories.

Gillett is erratic, that has always been my opinion of him. I stand by my comments that he's a woeful defender and is error prone. You sure do dribble a lot.

So he plays as a lock but because he doesn't fit your description of a ''modern day'' lock that is like a 3rd prop he somehow isn't playing lock? LOL.

Glen Stewart plays right second row... I can't dumb it down for you any more than that.

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Why are you bothering R6? He doesn't rate Parker because he's a stats whore yet he rates Tolman. That in itself tells you he really has no basis for his assertions other than personal opinion.

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You said without Thurston, you never said during the oirgin period, try to stay consistent. Parker isn't the reason they lost games without their origin stars, if you believe so then so be it.



Gillett is erratic, that has always been my opinion of him. I stand by my comments that he's a woeful defender and is error prone. You sure do dribble a lot.



Glen Stewart plays right second row... I can't dumb it down for you any more than that.

Error prone you say?

Round 22 (80 mins) - no errors
Round 21 (80 mins) - no errors
Round 20 (80 mins) - 2 errors
Round 19 (80 mins) - no errors
Round 16 (44 mins) - 1 error

I think the last 5 games he has played before last week shows that he had a off day and isn't error prone as you say.

So Lewis who prodominately prefers the left side is left second rower despite playing lock? LOL.

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Error prone you say?

Round 22 (80 mins) - no errors
Round 21 (80 mins) - no errors
Round 20 (80 mins) - 2 errors
Round 19 (80 mins) - no errors
Round 16 (44 mins) - 1 error

I think the last 5 games he has played before last week shows that he had a off day and isn't error prone as you say.

So Lewis who prodominately prefers the left side is left second rower despite playing lock? LOL.

Mate youre seriously not getting it. have you ever watched a manly game of late for the full 80 closely? stewart wears 13 but plays down the right edge exclusively. t-rex plays exclusively left edge and watmough plays up the middle (as a traditional lock). if you cant take our word for it and havent noticed this recently, think about it logically:
1. does t-rex play on the left? - YES
2. is watmough an exclusively left-sided backrower/lock - YES
CONCLUSION - logically if t-rex is playing left edge, watmough must be playing tight (as a lock) and stewart right side backrow. The numbers dont mean anything....

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Mate youre seriously not getting it. have you ever watched a manly game of late for the full 80 closely? stewart wears 13 but plays down the right edge exclusively. t-rex plays exclusively left edge and watmough plays up the middle (as a traditional lock). if you cant take our word for it and havent noticed this recently, think about it logically:
1. does t-rex play on the left? - YES
2. is watmough an exclusively left-sided backrower/lock - YES
CONCLUSION - logically if t-rex is playing left edge, watmough must be playing tight (as a lock) and stewart right side backrow. The numbers dont mean anything....

theres not much point arguing mate, hes like another versionof the lemon goat

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theres not much point arguing mate, hes like another versionof the lemon goat

dw mate im not arguing. just dont like watching stupid comments go unattended. I know R6 has had a go at explaining it to him and ill be honest, if he doesnt get my dummies guide explanation, it certainly wont be worth any further engagement. thanks for the advice anyway

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I do believe I have seen Glen Stewart up the middle aswell for some hit-ups

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I do believe I have seen Glen Stewart up the middle aswell for some hit-ups

actually, now youve mentioned it maybe you're right. I swear I saw Ash Graham taking a hit up up the middle on the weekend... since when did he start playing prop? I thought bowen packed into a scrum at lock as well. interesting coach that henry. a good player sure but a lock forward - never though that was bowen's calling...

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Yep Henry does like to try different little tactics throughout the game I must say

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Yep Henry does like to try different little tactics throughout the game I must say

yea he does doesnt he. So when exactly is it that he will use that one where you win the comp?