Rads gone

[bondi.boy]

Rads will be gone from first grade for the first 10 rounds, then you would think will have to return thru NSW Cup.
Could be, by that time, the first grade side is flying, winning all games with a new star in Rads' position.
Wonder what happens then.

[Michael Jones]

There must be a reason why it's without pay instead of a fine by the club though.

Under the CBA, clubs can fine players up to 25% of their salary. — No mention of standing down players without pay, which would be the RLPA's main concern in setting a precedent that other clubs could use.

Technically, if the Roosters are not paying Victor 150k or so of his salary, then that 150k or so is available to use to pay other players, i.e. top up contracts.

This is a different circumstance to a player being fined as they are still technically being paid even though the payment is not made to the player in question as it is used to pay off the fine over time.

Will the NRL give the Roosters salary cap concession to have Victor Radley's 10-week suspension without pay removed from their salary cap - have to wait and see?

Season	Base Salary Cap	Motor Vehicle Allowance	Veteran & Developed Player Allowance	Total Top 30 Salary Cap
2026	$11,550,000	$100,000	$300,000	$11,950,000

[Seventy Five]

Interesting Read - RLPA take Roosters to task over Radley sanctions and salary cap loophole -

Link - RLPA take Roosters to task over Radley sanctions and salary cap loophole

[ism22]

Are you sure we do? I didn’t think we would because it was a self-imposed club ban? My stance will soften if that’s the case. I know it’s without pay to Rads himself but my understanding is they were giving the missed pay to charity and so we wouldn’t actually get any cap relief.

Yeah I don't think we're getting cap relief for it. It's part of his salary.

Also, Rads earns a lot more than $30k for 10 rounds of footy. He'll be paid during that period and I suspect woulda donated the $30 to charity (then filed it as a tax deduction... call me a cynic but if this is how it works, his net position's gonna be pretty much the same as if he didn't donate it to charity).

I wouldn't be crying 'poor Victor'. IMO the bigger punishment to him woulda been having to fess up to Robbo and Uncle Nick. $30k is the least of his concerns...

[HunchoRooster]

He’s not 2019-20 rads pre acl but still better then the others
we also are not paying him over those 10 weeks and get salary cap relief of $150k
did a defensive job on Kikau as well

Are you sure we do? I didn’t think we would because it was a self-imposed club ban? My stance will soften if that’s the case. I know it’s without pay to Rads himself but my understanding is they were giving the missed pay to charity and so we wouldn’t actually get any cap relief.

[Chook2]

It’s more a case of who we can’t sign because we have 700k tied up in a beaten old workhorse who will be missing 10 games next season, providing even less value than he usually does.

I would say all of our young forward players had a better season than Radley. I recall 2 good games from Victor all season and they were both against St George. Foketi, Steep, Wong, both Butchers far more upside nowadays. Whyte had been playing lock at the end of the year anyway. Radley is a relic who hasn’t adapted his game since been targeted (unfairly) in the crackdown a few seasons ago. The 6 again looks too fast for him aswell, lost his mobility. Can’t pass either, poor mans Isaiah Yeo.

He’s not 2019-20 rads pre acl but still better then the others
we also are not paying him over those 10 weeks and get salary cap relief of $150k
did a defensive job on Kikau as well

[eddie]

This is a prime example of the strife that awaits when a megaphone management promotes a holier than thou image replete with black/white policies which leave no wriggle room and brook no exceptions. Our dumb msm like nothing better than trumpeting double standards and hypocrisy. Doing so makes it easier for it to accept its own failings.

Well said Mr Colt.

[HunchoRooster]

Who have we signed? Can Murray and carrigan?
Wong is an edge backrower
nat has had 1 decent game this with limited potential
Egan has had about 6 decent games for us otherwise trash
steep and Foketi look good but still developing and no passing game yet

It’s more a case of who we can’t sign because we have 700k tied up in a beaten old workhorse who will be missing 10 games next season, providing even less value than he usually does.

I would say all of our young forward players had a better season than Radley. I recall 2 good games from Victor all season and they were both against St George. Foketi, Steep, Wong, both Butchers far more upside nowadays. Whyte had been playing lock at the end of the year anyway. Radley is a relic who hasn’t adapted his game since been targeted (unfairly) in the crackdown a few seasons ago. The 6 again looks too fast for him aswell, lost his mobility. Can’t pass either, poor mans Isaiah Yeo.

[Paddo Colt 61]

This is a prime example of the strife that awaits when a megaphone management promotes a holier than thou image replete with black/white policies which leave no wriggle room and brook no exceptions. Our dumb msm like nothing better than trumpeting double standards and hypocrisy. Doing so makes it easier for it to accept its own failings.

[theGman]

I'm okay with the decision. They have made a strong statement and can't be accused of backing down. Uncle Nick said, "zero tolerance," not sacked. 10 weeks of no pay plus the $30k is well over $150k, which Rads will be outta pocket. In the long run, I hope he makes a bigger come back. And it sets a predicdent for other clubs and the NRL.

Very well said.
Punishment for zero tolerance is open to interpretation and doesn't necessarily equate to dismissal. We've now set a benchmark for other clubs to follow.

NRL players should heed notice to what's gone down and learn a valuable lesson at the expense of Vic. If you're going to do it, do it low key and be very wise.

[Noosa Rooster]

IMO If he had an ounce of integrity and really respected the club he would resign immediately. While he’s around the club will continue to be brought into disrepute but he doesn’t seem to mind. All that seems to really matter to him is himself not the club or team or us fans. And what kind of a role model can he ever be now? The example he set our youth is it’s alright as long as you can keep it secret and not get caught. He didn’t come out to the club but was exposed! And if he wasn’t exposed he’d keep doing it behind the clubs back! So I personally don’t want a rooster like that who’s sneaky and only apologised because he got caught but was happy to be secretive and break the clubs code until exposed. Not a person to be trusted.

Do you have the same opinion of the others on the golf trip?

No one else has been caught or owned up but there are many opinions that the amount apparently supplied was more than sufficient for 1 person. From the number of players caught /photographed with substances over the last 5 years it would appear that the use of coke is widespread in the NRL and it would be reasonable to assume that more than 1 player at the club has dabbled.

Do you really think Rads did this without the others knowing? If they knew, did they try to stop him? If not, aren't they complicit? Where then does the 'Club Culture' lie? If everyone was fully invested in Club Culture surely the others would have spoken up or does Club Culture only extend to ' don' get caught' but if you do 'you're on your own'.

[roostermcgregor]

The 10 week suspension and the 30k donation to charity, is the perfect response by the club.
It keeps a true blue Rooster at the club, and I am happy.
Not to mention that he is the backbone of our forward pack.
Haters can just go f#ck off.

[roosterchook]

wow

IMO If he had an ounce of integrity and really respected the club he would resign immediately. While he’s around the club will continue to be brought into disrepute but he doesn’t seem to mind. All that seems to really matter to him is himself not the club or team or us fans. And what kind of a role model can he ever be now? The example he set our youth is it’s alright as long as you can keep it secret and not get caught. He didn’t come out to the club but was exposed! And if he wasn’t exposed he’d keep doing it behind the clubs back! So I personally don’t want a rooster like that who’s sneaky and only apologised because he got caught but was happy to be secretive and break the clubs code until exposed. Not a person to be trusted.

[Chook2]

We must be watching a different game. We will be better off without him for the first 10 games and then Robbo will shoehorn him in as one of his favourites.

Who have we signed? Can Murray and carrigan?
Wong is an edge backrower
nat has had 1 decent game this with limited potential
Egan has had about 6 decent games for us otherwise trash
steep and Foketi look good but still developing and no passing game yet

[Michael Jones]

You seem to have a legal perspective having read your valid postings. What’s your view if Radley brought legal action upon Michael Chammas and Ch 9 ?

Probably zero chance of any legal action, as with these so-called journos like Chammas and Weidler, who are supposedly sports reporters, they are allowed to suddenly turn into crime or police investigation reporters when any off-field alleged offenses occur.

The NRL won't act to curb such media reporting, as they are beholden to their masters, like Channel 9 and Fox, as they basically fund the game.