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  • Nat Butcher Gone Again

    A recurrence of an MCL strain at training last week. Won’t return till about Round 21-22.

    From the Roosters site.

  • #2
    Caused by a hip drop - the offending player should be suspended for the duration of the injury ...

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    • #3
      A hip drop which we didn’t even get a penalty for from memory. In the first 5-10 minutes of the game too!

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      • #4
        A real shame as I think whenever he’s played this year he’s been really solid. That Broncos game he was the best forward on the ground. Caused by foul play as many have mentioned already. BS!

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        • #5
          That’s a real shame. As mentioned above he was playing well and his defence in the middle is first class. He controls the tackled players decent and ability to get a fast play the ball better than most.

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          • #6
            Yeah a real shame - I actually rate Nat unlike many on the site. He would have been handy to have now Rads is out for a few games most likely. Who did the hip drop on Nat - I missed that?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by The Lip View Post
              Yeah a real shame - I actually rate Nat unlike many on the site. He would have been handy to have now Rads is out for a few games most likely. Who did the hip drop on Nat - I missed that?
              I want to say it was Mitch Kenny? I remember Robbo having a go after the Riff game. I could be wrong though, that might’ve been on a different player.

              We seem to cop a few every year so it’s hard to keep up!

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              • #8
                Feel bad for Nat. I think him as a player. Seems like a really great bloke, as well from what I hear.

                Absolutely endless stream of injuries for 5 years. Normal service has resumed.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JAF View Post
                  Caused by a hip drop - the offending player should be suspended for the duration of the injury ...
                  If that’s true, where is the outrage from the journos? Some too busy worrying about non-existent controversies over our tries.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ccfc bondi View Post

                    If that’s true, where is the outrage from the journos? Some too busy worrying about non-existent controversies over our tries.
                    The beat-up and confected controversy over THAT try has been relentless and ridiculous.
                    1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
                    1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

                      I want to say it was Mitch Kenny? I remember Robbo having a go after the Riff game. I could be wrong though, that might’ve been on a different player.

                      We seem to cop a few every year so it’s hard to keep up!
                      Yup, it was Mitch Kenny - got only 2 weeks for it and not even a penalty to us during the game

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                      • #12
                        terrible luck. we've got cover but nat's in our best 17

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                        • #13
                          I would love to see some data on this maybe it's just recency bias speaking but feels like moderate to major injuries are a more common factor in today's game.

                          I know we had a real rough trot from 2021-24 but even just looking around the comp there seems to be so many sides with multiple injuries to their top 17.

                          If true, I can only imagine it's a matter of time before squad rotation and player resting will become an in-season tactic to reduce injury tolls.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                            I would love to see some data on this maybe it's just recency bias speaking but feels like moderate to major injuries are a more common factor in today's game.

                            I know we had a real rough trot from 2021-24 but even just looking around the comp there seems to be so many sides with multiple injuries to their top 17.

                            If true, I can only imagine it's a matter of time before squad rotation and player resting will become an in-season tactic to reduce injury tolls.
                            I agree there seems to be more tissue/ligament injuries like ACLs, MCLs, hammies, sindesmosis, etc rather than contact injuries like fractures. I guess it’s the speed of the game these days with the 6-agains and fewer stoppages for scrums & penalties, plus the elimination of the big hits, shoulder charges, etc. The new game puts the body under stress for longer and we are unfortunately seeing the results.

                            In 2018 & 19 we were happy to give away penalties, reset and back our defence. They changed the rules but we didn’t change our discipline, therefore we didn’t have that reset time anymore and we had to defend for longer periods without a break. That might have contributed to our spate of injuries in the 2020-24 years, particularly ACLs.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post
                              A hip drop which we didn’t even get a penalty for from memory. In the first 5-10 minutes of the game too!
                              It was also in a try scoring situation wasn't it? A few weeks ago Penrith got away with another hip drop at the end of the Tigers game when the Tigers were in a try scoring situation to win the game but then I think back to some of the "hip drops" we've been penalised for like that Radley one a year or 2 ago where he made a regulation tackle around the legs and slid off the player without making contact with the legs and still got 10 in the bin

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