DCE now linked

[Rooster_6]

The Roosters 5 losses tell a story - under 50% possession / under 80% set completions and double-digit errors - no way you will ever win a game with those KPI stats.

Didn’t the Roosters beat the Panthers with less possession and a sub 80% completion rate?

Pretty sure the team with the biggest winning margin in magic round also had less possession and sub 80% completion rate.

When you say no way you will ever win a game with those kind of stats what do you mean?

[BraveTheWorld]

Didn’t the Roosters beat the Panthers with less possession and a sub 80% completion rate?

Pretty sure the team with the biggest winning margin in magic round also had less possession and sub 80% completion rate.

When you say no way you will ever wing a game with those kind of stats what do you mean?

Spot on. Those stats can be an interesting guideline, but they're pretty useless in a vacuum. Context of errors matters so much more.

The intercept Sandon Smith threw when we were down to 12, for instance. Absolute howler of an error. They're not all created equally.

[HDTONE]

This whole DCE thing is interesting now.

On NRL 360 they were saying the talk was DCE for 1 year on $1mil.plus.

1 year but do we risk Savala and Sandon leaving ???

So I'm down with NO DCE ( even though I was in favour) and sticking with who we got.

[Chook2]

This whole DCE thing is interesting now.

On NRL 360 they were saying the talk was DCE for 1 year on $1mil.plus.

1 year but do we risk Savala and Sandon leaving ???

So I'm down with NO DCE ( even though I was in favour) and sticking with who we got.

Although we do risk loosing one or both of them soon anyway
only one can partner walker and they may only hold the seat until rodwell is Ready

savala has had a few decent games and sandon smith 1 after some really poor performances

[MKCS]

1 player doesn't win a game for starters - 17 players do.- Rugby League is not an individual sport.

One game vs Bulldogs doesn't determine a player's future at NRL level or as an NRL player. Not sure what this week-and-half wait actually means.

People such as Johns, Cronk, Fittler, Gould, Lockyer and co. rate Sandon highly and like Hugo's progress since he's been playing in the NRL. I think their opinions are to be noted as being people with a lot of skin in the game as they say, at a high level.

Not sure that you realise that halves can't be effective if the forwards aren't doing their job for starters and the team doesn't have 50 % plus of possession, set completions of 80% plus and single-digit errors.

Playing a full game - 80 minutes week in week out-is also paramount - no one will ever expect players to be 100% every game week in week out, but you must achieve a level of consistency- Penrith the past 5 years, have been an example of a team that plays 80 minutes week in week out - not always top-notch level but still at a level in games enabling them to win most of them plus 4 premierships out of 5 GF appearances.

The Roosters 5 losses tell a story - under 50% possession / under 80% set completions and double-digit errors - no way you will ever win a game with those KPI stats.

1. 41% possession and 73 % completion rate -10 errors
2. 47% possession and 70 % completion rate -13 errors
3. 48% possession and 53% completion rate - 19 errors
4. 47% possession and 65% completion rate- 16 errors
5. 46% possession and 71% completion rate - 10 errors

The game against the Bulldogs determines whether or not Hugo Savala and Sandon Smith have it in them to play well against a top tier side currently. Out of the teams in the top 4 thus far this year we've played two when they were in the top 4 and Sandon was pretty poor against them both whilst Hugo played off the bench in one and was solid in the other, of course it isn't the be all and end all but a lot of people here are saying these guys are ready to lead us to a premiership and one even said they are almost better than DCE so if that is true they should do well against the Bulldogs which is a team that should do well this year.

As for the experts it's great that they speak highly of Sandon but I'm sure most of that talk came from when he played a great game against the Dragons. Sandon hasn't given the experts much to talk about this year as he's played 2 good games from 9 starts currently. Also, not saying the experts are wrong about Sandon as it's too soon to tell but experts frequently get it wrong as well, for example I think it was Phil Gould back in 2013 that was saying Luke Brooks is going to be the next Andrew Johns but Luke obviously ended up just becoming a solid first grader at best.

DCE currently beats both of our halves comfortably stats wise. He is a must if we want to compete for a premiership in 2026.

[JAF]

The game against the Bulldogs determines whether or not Hugo Savala and Sandon Smith have it in them to play well against a top tier side currently. Out of the teams in the top 4 thus far this year we've played two when they were in the top 4 and Sandon was pretty poor against them both whilst Hugo played off the bench in one and was solid in the other, of course it isn't the be all and end all but a lot of people here are saying these guys are ready to lead us to a premiership and one even said they are almost better than DCE so if that is true they should do well against the Bulldogs which is a team that should do well this year.

As for the experts it's great that they speak highly of Sandon but I'm sure most of that talk came from when he played a great game against the Dragons. Sandon hasn't given the experts much to talk about this year as he's played 2 good games from 9 starts currently. Also, not saying the experts are wrong about Sandon as it's too soon to tell but experts frequently get it wrong as well, for example I think it was Phil Gould back in 2013 that was saying Luke Brooks is going to be the next Andrew Johns but Luke obviously ended up just becoming a solid first grader at best.

DCE currently beats both of our halves comfortably stats wise. He is a must if we want to compete for a premiership in 2026.

IMHO, DCE's leadership also cannot be understated if the team wishes to win a premiership in 2026

[milanja]

IMHO, DCE's leadership also cannot be understated if the team wishes to win a premiership in 2026

To only give him a one year deal is a strange decision, what is the plan for the year after?

a two year deal you can build or prepare for, a one year plan means there is obviously someone coming in 2027.

[Thirteen]

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[HDTONE]

savala has had a few decent games and sandon smith 1 after some really poor performances

Thing is SS isn't lumbered with Chad and is playing better

Game against the Dogs should be a cracker and a good test.

[BraveTheWorld]

I'd be happy with DCE for one year. I doubt we'd really risk losing any/many of our young halves if they're only being delayed for one year, and the squad was starting to look really strong again.

[SupermanSupportsEasts4Eva]

I don't get the 1 year contract for DCE. Weren't Manly originally going to give him 1 year? To which he said no.

[HunchoRooster]

I don't get the 1 year contract for DCE. Weren't Manly originally going to give him 1 year? To which he said no.

I think it was because they were going to offer him well under (like 400-500k) and didn’t consult him on whether he’d go round or not until late in the year, which got his nose out of joint a bit.

It’s a big show of faith in him for our club as I personally think Manly when fully fit have a better positioned squad than ours to immediately challenge for a premiership. Perhaps he has assurances that we’ll be adding to the squad. Makes sense based off all the player movements.

[Vasco]

This whole DCE thing is interesting now.

On NRL 360 they were saying the talk was DCE for 1 year on $1mil.plus.

1 year but do we risk Savala and Sandon leaving ???

So I'm down with NO DCE ( even though I was in favour) and sticking with who we got.

I'm all for DCE if it means we don't lose Savala. There's something about his game that I like.

[theGman]

To only give him a one year deal is a strange decision, what is the plan for the year after?

a two year deal you can build or prepare for, a one year plan means there is obviously someone coming in 2027.

The journos are clutching at straws hypothesising.
The Chery's deal is a 2 year one.

[Lydon]

If it’s true that DCE is only coming for 1 year then that tells me this is all being set up for Toby Rodwell come 2027!

Other than that what’s the point of coming for 1 year?