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  • SamKerrSimp
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    Originally posted by Rooster_Mark View Post

    Player development isn't paying more money to the players that you already have, that aren't performing. You know full well that as soon as a 33 year old comes on market, Robbo will sign them and play them ahead of a youngster.
    You guys want to sign a 36 year old halfback and play him over Sandon Smith lol make your minds

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  • Rooster_Mark
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    Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post

    Of course you're not sure how player development works
    Player development isn't paying more money to the players that you already have, that aren't performing. You know full well that as soon as a 33 year old comes on market, Robbo will sign them and play them ahead of a youngster.

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  • kakaruk
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    I ment mark

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  • kakaruk
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    A few strange recruitment decisions in recent times to say the least starting with Fifita now were apparently after hunt instead of sticking with our youth coming thru our lower grades Markus was a good pickup though

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  • Bondicigar
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    The rooster way doest work on the paddock or at the market atm.
    time for a shake up

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  • Inflictor
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    May is a Tiger. I hope we rip his head off when we play them. Get over it.

    FFS

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  • Chook2
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    The players we have signed over time and held players on for doing a lot worse on the off the field
    cheese has performed poorly on and off the field on $850k so I can see why they are trying to move him on (might be hard with the acl for clubs to be interested now)
    May who we have got a bargain potentially says he isn’t as interested one day and gets the flick after just getting extended
    the senior players like Teddy and Gus were shocked

    tigers sign him for $220k more per year so showed the great deal we had for him

    you need the all in roosters guys but you also need talent
    still hadn’t reached his full potential, played all 27 games and was one of our best performers
    only ones who gained here were May bank account and the tigers

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  • Fishwa
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    Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post

    Why would we get anything for him when we are the ones who asked him to leave? What we got was freed up salary cap space and an open spot in the roster
    Oh yeah of course thats a given - but i think of a player that some people are tipping to hit Origin, we could have played the situation slightly different. A club can tell a player if he wants to leave, we will happily negotiate a release with a fellow club - im sure it happens all the time, no matter if its the club or the player that initiates the release.

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  • roosterproud
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    i cant find Xavier Va'a contract status with us. he has vanished from our player list s in nrl and nsw cup. i was friends with him of FB but his account has closed. I hope he isn't doing his sabbatical. thats 12 months

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  • SamKerrSimp
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    Originally posted by Rooster_Mark View Post

    Corrected for you. I am not sure how having money to spend and no one to spend it on really helps us.
    Of course you're not sure how player development works

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  • Rooster_Mark
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    Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post

    What we got was freed up salary cap space and an empty spot in the roster
    Corrected for you. I am not sure how having money to spend and no one to spend it on really helps us.

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  • SamKerrSimp
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    Originally posted by Fishwa View Post
    The one thing that I think is odd about the Terrell May departure, is that we just did it and got nothing in return.

    Terrell is at a ripe age to hit his prime, has enough FG games now that its obvious he would have clubs chasing him, so why not negotiate a deal with another club upon his release for a player in return. He went to the Tigers, ok slim pickings there and realistically, they wouldn't part with Api or Galvin - but surely there is a young player or First grader about to come off contract that could have moved the other way.

    Just seems odd - we could have had some leverage there to get something in return
    Why would we get anything for him when we are the ones who asked him to leave? What we got was freed up salary cap space and an open spot in the roster

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  • Swamptrout
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    Terrell had reached his ceiling and his attitude sucked.

    Leniu, Whyte and Wong are all younger, will get more game time and surpass Terrell by the 2025 season years end.

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  • Bates
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    Originally posted by Fishwa View Post

    Great Q - there are elements of it that i like, and i think would work in NRL, and elements that wouldnt.

    im not sure the open market idea would work in league - mainly cause we have a salary cap, and it would lead to a greater disparity between clubs. It works in soccer cause its a global system, and small clubs can really benefit - not sure if true, but i remember hearing that the Melbourne Club Mark Viduka played for when young, built a grandstand with the money they earnt from his transfer to Celtic.

    But off the top of my head - things i think could work in league;
    • I think if you want a player under contract at another club, the club buying should pay the other club the entirety of their remaining contract - wouldn't be under the salary cap - but at least the departing club gets something. i also think an element of that money should go to the players junior club
    • The above would also mean its a bit more in the club's favor when a player plays the old 'im homesick' card. At least the 2 clubs know what the cost is before the player even starts agitating for a release
    • I do like the loan system they have in soccer - im not sure how or if it could work in league, certainly not to the extent it does in soccer, but i think a formal loan system would be great. Maybe something like - all loans are for a full season. a loan can go one way - you dont have to loan a player in return.
    • What i think we have to have, like soccer, is transfer windows - i don't know anyone (other than the RLPA) that likes seeing a player play for their club when they have signed up to a season in advance for another club - it's ridiculous. the old reason of 'it gives players time to adjust their life' is BS - they earn enough, and clubs / players get compensated moving costs / have contacts at schools / real estate agents etc - it couldnt be easier. I think there is an easy solution too. Just a rule saying - no player / club can sign elsewhere unless during the offseason (and maybe a mid-year window.) Clubs / players / player agents are not allowed to talk publicly about any movements except in the window. Which basically means - things would happen behind the scenes - fine, it adds to the rumor mill, but because there is no official announcements / signing, there is going to be an element of unknown - which is good. Also means if a player verbally agrees - he cant sign - so technically other clubs could still swoop in. Would also mean the day the window opens - would be a massive day of news - could really leverage it and get great media from it

    Just ideas - interested in others thoughts!
    Good post mate.

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  • Fishwa
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    Originally posted by Bates View Post

    What are your thoughts on a transfer fee system just like the EPL?

    I'm surprised V'landys isn't all over it as he could tax it and punters could also bet on it.
    Great Q - there are elements of it that i like, and i think would work in NRL, and elements that wouldnt.

    im not sure the open market idea would work in league - mainly cause we have a salary cap, and it would lead to a greater disparity between clubs. It works in soccer cause its a global system, and small clubs can really benefit - not sure if true, but i remember hearing that the Melbourne Club Mark Viduka played for when young, built a grandstand with the money they earnt from his transfer to Celtic.

    But off the top of my head - things i think could work in league;
    • I think if you want a player under contract at another club, the club buying should pay the other club the entirety of their remaining contract - wouldn't be under the salary cap - but at least the departing club gets something. i also think an element of that money should go to the players junior club
    • The above would also mean its a bit more in the club's favor when a player plays the old 'im homesick' card. At least the 2 clubs know what the cost is before the player even starts agitating for a release
    • I do like the loan system they have in soccer - im not sure how or if it could work in league, certainly not to the extent it does in soccer, but i think a formal loan system would be great. Maybe something like - all loans are for a full season. a loan can go one way - you dont have to loan a player in return.
    • What i think we have to have, like soccer, is transfer windows - i don't know anyone (other than the RLPA) that likes seeing a player play for their club when they have signed up to a season in advance for another club - it's ridiculous. the old reason of 'it gives players time to adjust their life' is BS - they earn enough, and clubs / players get compensated moving costs / have contacts at schools / real estate agents etc - it couldnt be easier. I think there is an easy solution too. Just a rule saying - no player / club can sign elsewhere unless during the offseason (and maybe a mid-year window.) Clubs / players / player agents are not allowed to talk publicly about any movements except in the window. Which basically means - things would happen behind the scenes - fine, it adds to the rumor mill, but because there is no official announcements / signing, there is going to be an element of unknown - which is good. Also means if a player verbally agrees - he cant sign - so technically other clubs could still swoop in. Would also mean the day the window opens - would be a massive day of news - could really leverage it and get great media from it

    Just ideas - interested in others thoughts!

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