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  • #46
    Originally posted by rented tracksuit View Post
    Wasn’t he a Ferrari at the Knaughts?

    He’s been Lada Niva for us.

    I thought he had speed? What else was he supposed to offer?
    As soon as a English winger puts a Roosters jersey on he is cursed.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post
      I’m okay with it because it gets him out of the team for a few weeks hopefully forever
      I’ve seen about 7-8 comments from this account against Young in the last 12 hours - so I’ll conclude you have a personal vendetta against the bloke.

      His defence has been poor, anyone can see that. But half the time, he’s left in no man’s land because the bloke on his inside with 3 times the experience and 2 times the salary makes shocking reads. If you’re going to air Young for his reads, then feel free to do the same to Manu, as well as Suaalii, and Tupou, who have made some shocking decisions that have had us concede. He’s good enough in attack to win us games, and unfortunately in defence to lose us games as well at the moment. It’ll get better - it will have to or he’ll find himself in reserves.

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      • #48
        The way I see it, before Anusley's string of crackdowns the words 'sin bin' and 'send off' were synonymous. People would cry 'OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF' after an incident and nobody would correct you for calling a sin-bin and send-off.

        Yes the rule book always had a 'send-off' for RIDICULOUS behaviour. For example if you attacked the ref, spectators or officials / support staff (never happened) then you'd be going off and the police would probably be called (heck, the game might even be called off with the result given to the opposition if more than 1 player/official are involved and it's the spectators getting attacked... like we've seen in American sports a few times). That was basically the line though. If police involvement is needed then you'll be escorted from the stadium and probably face a VERY harsh penalty.

        I get that the NRL doesn't want a massive class action ruling against it for concussions. However, is triggering an obscure rule designed for unacceptable conduct REALLY appropriate in circumstances where a guy is 'jamming in' and accidentally chips a guy on the chin with his hand? IMO in days gone by that sorta tackle would lead to a free kick being awarded (IF THAT) and nothing more.

        Now we're looking at the punishment of playing ~60 minutes with 12 men and probably losing him for a number of rounds. To me this is ridiculous and it's not what the rule was designed for. Sin-bin at worst IMO!!! If you did that during an international you probably wouldn't even be sin binned...

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        • #49
          Originally posted by ism22 View Post
          The way I see it, before Anusley's string of crackdowns the words 'sin bin' and 'send off' were synonymous. People would cry 'OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF' after an incident and nobody would correct you for calling a sin-bin and send-off.

          Yes the rule book always had a 'send-off' for RIDICULOUS behaviour. For example if you attacked the ref, spectators or officials / support staff (never happened) then you'd be going off and the police would probably be called (heck, the game might even be called off with the result given to the opposition if more than 1 player/official are involved and it's the spectators getting attacked... like we've seen in American sports a few times). That was basically the line though. If police involvement is needed then you'll be escorted from the stadium and probably face a VERY harsh penalty.

          I get that the NRL doesn't want a massive class action ruling against it for concussions. However, is triggering an obscure rule designed for unacceptable conduct REALLY appropriate in circumstances where a guy is 'jamming in' and accidentally chips a guy on the chin with his hand? IMO in days gone by that sorta tackle would lead to a free kick being awarded (IF THAT) and nothing more.

          Now we're looking at the punishment of playing ~60 minutes with 12 men and probably losing him for a number of rounds. To me this is ridiculous and it's not what the rule was designed for. Sin-bin at worst IMO!!! If you did that during an international you probably wouldn't even be sin binned...
          Sorry. That’s rubbish. The send off rule is for illegal, foul play. Young’s tackle was illegal and knocked Taafe out. If that’s not a send off, what is? Unlike others I’m not surprised Young was sent. It got Taafe on the chin. Direct contact. What would you have said if Walker was hit in that way? We would all expect a send off. Robbo was protecting Young but would’ve expected an opponent to be sent for the same.

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          • #50
            was it direct contact with the head or did it brush the shoulder first? if it brushed the shoulder first it's not a send off. if it didn't well, can't complain, but that's not a standard that's always enforced. on the scale of recklessness i thought it was pretty low. young needed to make just a skerrick more allowance for his extra height

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            • #51
              Young charged with a Grade 3 Careless High Tackle will miss 2 weeks with early guilty plea or 3 weeks if he challenges it and loses.

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              • #52
                A big over reaction

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Bondicigar View Post

                  As soon as a English winger puts a Roosters jersey on he is cursed.
                  It appears that way doesn’t it.
                  FVCK CANCER

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                  • #54
                    You can't tackle players above the shoulder, ie: in the head, like that...it's a suspension.
                    2 weeks, not the end if the world.
                    Maybe our new defence coach can guide Dom.

                    New defence coach?
                    Well judging by our terrible defence in this Dogs game, we need a new defence coach, or a new advisor to our current defence coach, someone who knows about 'Sweepers', and someone who can insert into our Head Coach's mind a sign with flashing lights reading "Suaalii is not a centre".

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                    • #55
                      interesting they've said it's not reckless. how many grade 3 careless charges have resulted in a send off?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by fletch View Post
                        Young charged with a Grade 3 Careless High Tackle will miss 2 weeks with early guilty plea or 3 weeks if he challenges it and loses.
                        I think they got this one right.

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                        • #57
                          Overreaction for sure and to deem it a high tackle—careless confirms this—it was a ball and all tackle—a 200 cm player on a 179 cm player who was crouching at the point of impact—no swinging arm or clenched fist either—that would put it in the high tackle—reckless category for a player to be potentially sent off.

                          Hughes head slam: dangerous throw only warranted a fine; put on report; no sin bin

                          As I said previously, Radley's on report, and sin bin for a hip drop that wasn't was a complete farce; anyone could see it was not a hip drop tackle.

                          The Bunker should only adjudicate on tries and not on on-field incidents, they should not be taking on the roles of the match review committee and judiciary in games.

                          That is why the referee and touch judges are there in matches.

                          Follow the NFL ,MLB, Rugby and Football and have a monitor on the side lines; the referee can look at it if need be to determine the course of action for any incidents of foul play in matches.

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                          • #58
                            So our two new recruits have already found out what it’s like to play for the roosters, and pay the extra tax for it.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by zac View Post
                              interesting they've said it's not reckless. how many grade 3 careless charges have resulted in a send off?
                              It's a grade 1 careless that was automatically upgraded to a grade 3 careless because it involved 'jamming in'. It's never happened before and is purely part of Anusley's crackdown on 'jamming in'...

                              I get it but I think it's a stupid usage of the 'send-off' rule. Noting my previous point... it's designed for either the extreme end of grade 3 reckless tackles (i.e. INTENTIONAL high contact of the worst degree - the only example of this that comes to mind is Hopoate's conduct) or for illegal conduct, such as bashing an official. It's not there to discourage high tackles on the basis that the NRL wants to avoid litigation by saying 'oh but we were harsh on this kinda stuff so it's not our fault you got a brain injury!' Instead, the NRL should accept brain injuries as part of the game, put aside money for ex-players and avoid future litigation by offering a $$$ insurance scheme.
                              Last edited by ism22; 04-06-2024, 02:01 PM.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Batemans Bay Rooster View Post
                                seen 100s of those just put on report
                                This is true … we were also down 18-0 at the time

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