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Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post
For the record Rooster 6…
We clearly have the strongest squad in rugby league this year … anything short of a premiership will be a lost season … which is why I am quite irate after the debacle on Thursday
Last year … we had the strongest squad but the difference was not as pronounced … fine margins
The previous year … we had the strongest squad in my opinion but it was a coin toss
Prior to that? no … Penrith were clearly the strongest … no complaints
I am not the one swimming against the tide of public opinion here … far from it … but regardless … if you don’t agree just remember what our captain… the NSW captain … the Australian captain … perhaps the greatest player of his generation … had to say … we have indeed underachieved these last few years
I appreciate when our coach comes out with the mea culpas … but best he does something about it … because we will not be the strongest in the near future … generational players like Sonny Bill and Cronk and Tedesco who can win a middling coach a premiership don’t grow on trees
i.e if you think Tedesco is the number 1 fullback in the NRL then rate him as a 1 and so on- Tedesco
- Toops
- Pauga
- Young
- Billy Smith
- Suaalii
- Manu
- Jennings
- Toia
- Keary
- Walker
- Sandon Smith
- JWH
- Collins
- May
- Whyte
- Leniu
- Brandon Smith
- Moriarty
- Nat Butcher
- Crichton
- Egan Butcher
- Sitili
- Radley
- Watson
- Dockar-Clay
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Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post
You want me to appraise our entire lineup? but I should also mind the keystrokes?
Okay … let’s start … you said we have no second rowers … Crichton is the standing Australian backrower … a superb footballer … so excuse my French but wtf are you talking about?
Why downgrade our obvious talent?
Sorry to spoil the narrative but these have been wasted years mate … and it ain’t gonna get better in the years going forward … this coach absolutely needs to may hay while he has a loaded squad at his disposal
Have you watched a game in the last 12 months?
Angus Crichton has had so many opportunities to nail that left edge spot but he's never put together more than half a season of consistency there.
If you think Angus Crichton would be picked for Australia tomorrow I can see why you would think we have the best squad in the comp... it's a really bad take.
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Originally posted by milanja View Post
I look at the squad pretty objectively
fullback, top 3 in the game still.
wingers, most clubs would take Dom as their winger
centers, every club would take Manu
5/8 and halfback, they probably wouldn’t feature in the top 6 halves combos in the comp
frontrowers, easily top 3 rotation in the comp
hooker, not a top 6 dummy half in the comp
second rowers, way down the pecking order
lock, top 4 in the comp.
so out of 9 positions, we are solid in 5, but overall we are missing consistent halves,hooker and 2nd rowers.
damien cook has average service but has made a good career for nsw and Aus with his running game at 9
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Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post
You want me to appraise our entire lineup? but I should also mind the keystrokes?
Okay … let’s start … you said we have no second rowers … Crichton is the standing Australian backrower … a superb footballer … so excuse my French but wtf are you talking about?
Why downgrade our obvious talent?
Sorry to spoil the narrative but these have been wasted years mate … and it ain’t gonna get better in the years going forward … this coach absolutely needs to may hay while he has a loaded squad at his disposal
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
Angus Crichton... really?
Have you watched a game in the last 12 months?
Angus Crichton has had so many opportunities to nail that left edge spot but he's never put together more than half a season of consistency there.
If you think Angus Crichton would be picked for Australia tomorrow I can see why you would think we have the best squad in the comp... it's a really bad take.
The boy is not a robot … he’s had some issues lately … but he is a bona fide Rooster … a high end player at every single level he has played at
You want to diss his quality despite his immense talent and contribution and great loyalty to us?
Mate you are a very sharp tool … but don’t ever make a c*nt of yourself for your own ego … you’re too smart and good for that
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It’s a tough one
2020 was pass mark and 2021 we could have easily won if not for injuries and overachieve that year
the last two years though our defence has gone backwards, attack horrible at times, and for the squad we have we got let off just making the 8 twice off a massive 8 game winning streak
we didn’t learn from 2022 and robbo kept guys in odd positions for way to long so had made many errors
who know about this year but if we have another average season there will be questions
it’s a bloody good roster
we seem to need our front row to get us on front so the backs can sing the ball as we seem to lack dominant runners and guys who will do the dirty work everywhere else
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Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
You keep saying the Roosters have the best squad - how about rating each player against other players in similar positions in other teams
i.e if you think Tedesco is the number 1 fullback in the NRL then rate him as a 1 and so on- Tedesco
- Toops
- Pauga
- Young
- Billy Smith
- Suaalii
- Manu
- Jennings
- Toia
- Keary
- Walker
- Sandon Smith
- JWH
- Collins
- May
- Whyte
- Leniu
- Brandon Smith
- Moriarty
- Nat Butcher
- Crichton
- Egan Butcher
- Sitili
- Radley
- Watson
- Dockar-Clay
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Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post
Mate Angus Crichton is the custodian Australian backrower … what planet have you been living on?
The boy is not a robot … he’s had some issues lately … but he is a bona fide Rooster … a high end player at every single level he has played at
You want to diss his quality despite his immense talent and contribution and great loyalty to us?
Mate you are a very sharp tool … but don’t ever make a c*nt of yourself for your own ego … you’re too smart and good for that
I'm judging Angus Crichton purely on his footballing ability. He had an injury but he has recovered from that and I will judge him just like every other player.
I have been very consistent on my desire to want him to do well as he grew up supporting the club and bleeds for the club like well all do. I've also been consistent on my opinion of him over the last 5 years, the difference from his best and his worst is just too great and his contributions are wildly volatile. If you want to read through my posts I defended his name on here when plenty were spreading gossip and rumours.
Don't try to paint me out to be someone I'm not, I will judge him on his playing ability on the field just like I will reply to your points being made and won't cast aspersions on your character just because I disagree with your opinions.
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
I never took it there and you didn't need to either.
I'm judging Angus Crichton purely on his footballing ability. He had an injury but he has recovered from that and I will judge him just like every other player.
I have been very consistent on my desire to want him to do well as he grew up supporting the club and bleeds for the club like well all do. I've also been consistent on my opinion of him over the last 5 years, the difference from his best and his worst is just too great and his contributions are wildly volatile. If you want to read through my posts I defended his name on here when plenty were spreading gossip and rumours.
Don't try to paint me out to be someone I'm not, I will judge him on his playing ability on the field just like I will reply to your points being made and won't cast aspersions on your character just because I disagree with your opinions.
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Originally posted by Chook2 View Post
After harry grant and api korisau who would you have better then Brendon smith! His service isn’t the top but his defence and attacking runs and runs at the line are up there with anyone
damien cook has average service but has made a good career for nsw and Aus with his running game at 9
I think he can be very good, but we need to be rolling for him to be most effective, don’t think he has as much creativity as some of the others.
Grant,Robson,api,braily, I like how Egan plays the game too.
cook has lost his speed, I don’t rate him.
now each dummy half may look better depending on how the team is travelling, and how much a team is solely relying on them, look at Walters and Kenny, as long as they are not making simple mistakes, in a good side they play seamlessly, Mahoney was very good for Parra when he was there.
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Ill always defend Les as a good Roosters man who demands success and excellence as is his right. Can ask the tough questions. However, I can't agree with Les on this one. I think Angus Crichton needs to go for the good of both parties. It's almost like he's in a weird limbo given we all expected him to be out the door last season.
The fact it's even a possibility someone as gifted as him can't make our 17 shows he is so far off where he needs to be. He's on a kings ransom and he should work on himself out of the spotlight in Rugby U. If he cant make our starting side, he shouldnt be at the club. His role is not as a next man up cover in a 30 man squad, yet thats where he has found himself. He hasn't played well (or at least strung 2-3 good games together) for 2 years and I wouldn't have him in our starting side over Wong, a rookie and Nat Butcher, a workhorse with very limited upside. Sitili and him is a toss up, but I'd probably still have Sitili in the 17 over him.
I would wish Gus the best and hate to see whats happened to him and its a reminder of the rigours of elite sport. In my opinion but in his 100 games for us, I reckon we've seen maybe 20 games of absolute quality where hes earnt his keep, 60 games of neither here nor there and another 20 of absolute rubbish. Not the performances of an elite representative backrower. Compare that to Cords or Fitzy before him. Consistency is key in forwards and he doesn't have it.
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Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post
What is beyond stale is losing to the same ****ing team 10 times in a row … even when they roll out a ****ing load of reserve graders onto our ****ing home turf in ****ing prime time
Is that a better tone?
This team has been in a moribund state for the last 3 years despite being the most loaded in league … it is poorly coached … when that changes I will write you something flowery
It’s 9 in a row mate. Not 10!FVCK CANCER
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