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  • #31
    Originally posted by Batemans Bay Rooster View Post
    I agree with Bates. How can they get it so wrong? What training are they given? You'd imagine it's extensive and ongoing.

    The problem with this is it's not as if the call was a 50/50 call where one person saw one thing and someone else saw something else. Like Sitili's try for example. I reckon he bobbled it, but you could go either way on that call and neither side of the argument can be sure they're right.

    This was not that. The 2 opinions from the 2 sets of officials, Bunker and then Annesley, are polar opposite interpretations of the same event. That's the issue
    Well said mate. I'll add that they're salary is $150k plus EACH a year.

    I get human error especially under pressure but when you get time and countless replays to get it right and you fark up and then the on field official has the opportunity to right the wrong you start to smell a match fixing racket.

    It should be illegal for betting companies to be major or minor partners in professional sport.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Thirteen View Post

      Robbo says “we were well beaten” twice in the first 30 seconds of the presser.

      He also says, “In the end they were a better team by far.”

      But that’s okay, you keep telling yourself we weren’t dominated.
      That's how Robbo operates. He brings the Manu no try decision to the pressers attention and then makes sure that he doesn't sound like Ricky Stuart.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bates View Post

        That's how Robbo operates. He brings the Manu no try decision to the pressers attention and then makes sure that he doesn't sound like Ricky Stuart.
        you're an idiot.

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        • #34
          Unconscious bias

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          • #35
            It was a terrible decision. A fantastic try taken away by completely brain dead officiating. But they were easily the better side. A positive is our defence was strong, because realistically given the amount of possession they had and how dominant they looked they should have won by more.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by mattyh View Post

              you're an idiot.
              And you're another sheep that just files into line!

              I bet if Gus Gould told you that the world was square you'd probably believe him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bates View Post

                Well said mate. I'll add that they're salary is $150k plus EACH a year.

                I get human error especially under pressure but when you get time and countless replays to get it right and you fark up and then the on field official has the opportunity to right the wrong you start to smell a match fixing racket.

                It should be illegal for betting companies to be major or minor partners in professional sport.
                Mate there's no match fixing. If you believe there is, you're kidding. Impossible now with all the transparency required by the regulators. I worked in racing and sports betting for 10+ years. To even suggest things like match fixing in the NRL, no disrespect mate people who say that have no idea what they're talking about. I reckon the issue is, the bunker officials just don't know the game. Are they people who just go into sports refereeing to be fit and be a referee? No feel for the game.

                That said, it would have been the first time Penrith have started $2.55 outsiders in a game for quite some time.

                Even at that price though, the amount you'd have to have on to pay everyone off is absurd and impossible.You're saying the refs are compromising their entire careers and possibly gong to jail, for a bit of a gambling win?
                Last edited by Batemans Bay Rooster; 03-29-2024, 06:41 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Batemans Bay Rooster View Post

                  Mate there's no match fixing. If you believe there is, you're kidding. Impossible now with all the transparency required by the regulators. I worked in racing and sports betting for 10+ years. To even suggest things like match fixing in the NRL, no disrespect mate people who say that have no idea what they're talking about. I reckon the issue is, the bunker officials just don't know the game. Are they people who just go into sports refereeing to be fit and be a referee? No feel for the game.

                  That said, it would have been the first time Penrith have started $2.55 outsiders in a game for quite some time.

                  Even at that price though, the amount you'd have to have on to pay everyone off is absurd and impossible.You're saying the refs are compromising their entire careers and possibly gong to jail, for a bit of a gambling win?
                  Yep there's no corruption in professional sport, police force, federal, state and local governance etc. As you were.

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                  • #39
                    To be fair...

                    - We were still outplayed throughout the game (had other chances that we blew).

                    - The reasoning for it being a try seems to hinge on technical analysis of Edwards moving off his line to dodge the ref. Yes the call was 'wrong' but it wasn't outlandishly wrong and we responded by conceding some rather soft 2nd half tries instead of firing up.

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                    • #40
                      The NRL have made a rod for their own backs with these rule changes and their black and white interpretations - Seven Tackle restart for instance and in allowing the ridiculous decoy/block runner - inside / outside shoulder nonsense.

                      New rules this year - the down town (General Field kick ) , kick blockers for field goals and lifting the leg of the ball carrier in a tackle. Ball Carriers will exploit this by lifting their own leg in a tackle and milking a penalty out of it.





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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Bates View Post

                        And you're another sheep that just files into line!

                        I bet if Gus Gould told you that the world was square you'd probably believe him.
                        I don't watch channel 9.

                        but gus still knows more bout footy then you do.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Bates View Post

                          Yep there's no corruption in professional sport, police force, federal, state and local governance etc. As you were.
                          prove it...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
                            The NRL have made a rod for their own backs with these rule changes and their black and white interpretations - Seven Tackle restart for instance and in allowing the ridiculous decoy/block runner - inside / outside shoulder nonsense.

                            New rules this year - the down town (General Field kick ) , kick blockers for field goals and lifting the leg of the ball carrier in a tackle. Ball Carriers will exploit this by lifting their own leg in a tackle and milking a penalty out of it.
                            Yes I think their attempts to be black and white are comparable to Japan's attempts to ban sex work.

                            In short... they structure their law such that 'sex' is coitus. So... banning sex work means banning the offering of coitus. That is all. So when you walk through a shady part of town you'll get offered all sorts of 'sex', just not coitus. Their belief is that you'd have to individually ban every single act (including niche fetishes...etc) in order for their law to be effective. This gets creepy really quickly when people sell

                            Australia's a common law country so we're not so prescriptive... interpreting laws is done by reading them as plain English while considering the context/intention. As such you can have exhaustive lists if that's the intention... OR... you can choose not to, in which case it's usually gonna be assumed that commonsense will prevail (e.g. if a place is called Bellamy's Brothel and is has a big sign out the front advertising kinky cosplay, blowjobs, anal sex then most would assume it's offering sexual services).

                            IMO the NRL's regular rule changes are mostly unnecessary kneejerk reactions to losing coaches having a whinge about better teams 'cheating'. Rather than empowering refs to better interpret situations, they force refs to make overly narrow/interpretive decisions that run a fine comb through the rulebook rather than immediately asking oneself 'WHAT WAS THE CONTEXT AND WERE THEY GAINING AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE / BEING OVERLY AGGRESSIVE? IF NOT, WHO GIVES A FARK?!?'

                            IMO a rule that immediately leads to guys in a 'bunker' needing to do an interpretive analysis of every single bloody try is a stupid rule. Being too prescriptive NEVER leads to a good outcome unless you're micro-managing a complete idiot who needs to be told quite specifically how to go the toilet, otherwise they'll fall in and never be seen again.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
                              The NRL have made a rod for their own backs with these rule changes and their black and white interpretations - Seven Tackle restart for instance and in allowing the ridiculous decoy/block runner - inside / outside shoulder nonsense.

                              New rules this year - the down town (General Field kick ) , kick blockers for field goals and lifting the leg of the ball carrier in a tackle. Ball Carriers will exploit this by lifting their own leg in a tackle and milking a penalty out of it.
                              But if Easts try that, the ref will penalise them for cynical tactics.

                              1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
                              1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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                              • #45
                                I'll keep saying it until the bunker is pissed off.



                                It was brought in so as to manipulate game outcomes for the NRL.



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