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  • #61
    Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post

    Of course… but the point is it could have easily been different

    Think of Ricky… 3GFs in a row… but no one gives him any credit around here

    Yet Robbo couldn’t do that… even with a seriously loaded side these past 10 years
    Ricky was definitely the right man at the right time. He transformed the club from having a soft underbelly to having some intestinal fortitude.

    He did lose the plot a little once Freddy and other stars left or retired. I guess there are some similarities here with Robbo (Cronk, Latrell, Cordner etc.).
    Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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    • #62
      I get that the coach's record can be called into question and everybody is entitled to their opinion. So a question for those who want him gone....who are you replacing him with? And don't say Bellamy, Bennett, Cleary or Fitzgibbon because they are not available

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      • #63
        Originally posted by dice View Post

        I recall that in 2001 commentators were discussing the possibility of Roosters going undefeated for the entire season. That was their opinion of the strength of our roster which Sticky eventually inherited. And for the record it was Dean Pay's Dominant Tackle defensive tactic that ultimately won us the premiership.
        Everyone forgets the dead. Graham Murray had as much to do with the grand final win in 2002 as Ricky Stuart.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post
          I get that the coach's record can be called into question and everybody is entitled to their opinion. So a question for those who want him gone....who are you replacing him with? And don't say Bellamy, Bennett, Cleary or Fitzgibbon because they are not available
          The best immediate alternative has already been snapped up for next year.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
            I’m going to say something controversial that will fire some people up.

            I thought Radley looked good at 2nd row and I genuinely think if he continues to play well there for the rest of the season we should consider him there as a permanent 2nd rower. I know there were 2 dumb short side plays and the play the ball error but outside of that he was poking his head through the line, made some good offloads, gave good space and ball to Suaalii and helped out in yardage with some good carries.
            I agree with you. He was getting cumbersome at lock.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Eggspert View Post

              Next year will be his 12th & that's a loooooong time in any sport.

              It's a given that others will overtake you & the game will pass you by at some stage. Especially with these rule changes.

              I don't see us winning another premiership under Robbo. He would be better to go coach the Knights, Tigers, Dragons or Dogs to reshape their struggles.

              Will always love & respect his achievements with us but I believe he's reached his expiry date here.
              Yes much respect to Robbo for the past but he’s become a little too comfortable here these days

              Telling Rooster fans last year to go easy on the opposition’s best player before the biggest game of the year? all because Robbo loves to see him smile… or was it because of the colour of his skin? either way it was offensive and utter bog standard coaching

              Is it any wonder we got thoroughly bashed by the opposition and left for dead by the referees the next day?

              If Robbo stays here indefinitely… God help us… I would like for him to prove me wrong… because I don’t see him winning another premiership either… either here or elsewhere

              How do you think he would go next year at some of those clubs you mention? He’s got a gun roster here and he is struggling almightily
              Last edited by Les Tricolores; 07-17-2023, 05:18 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post
                I get that the coach's record can be called into question and everybody is entitled to their opinion. So a question for those who want him gone....who are you replacing him with? And don't say Bellamy, Bennett, Cleary or Fitzgibbon because they are not available
                Well that is impossible to say unless it was your job to know every single assistant in rugby league… both here and in the UK… what is obvious though is that there are many capable assistants waiting for an opportunity… just like Robbo 10 years ago

                Look at Webster… he looked out of his depth when he stepped in for Cleary and Ciraldo a year ago… yet look what he’s doing now at the Warriors

                People are talking about Cordner for Origin… look what Slater has done with QLD… there are always options… particularly when your own coach is well below standard
                Last edited by Les Tricolores; 07-17-2023, 03:17 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Vasco View Post

                  Ricky was definitely the right man at the right time. He transformed the club from having a soft underbelly to having some intestinal fortitude.

                  He did lose the plot a little once Freddy and other stars left or retired. I guess there are some similarities here with Robbo (Cronk, Latrell, Cordner etc.).
                  Yeah Ricky was the gold standard back in those days… should never have lost to the Panthers though… losing to the Dogs was somewhat forgivable

                  It was a long time ago… so perhaps you can remind me… did he use to wear his heart on his sleeve like he does now during those GF years? or did that all come after?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post

                    Yes much respect to Robbo for the past but he’s become a little too comfortable here these days

                    Telling Rooster fans last year to go easy on the opposition’s best player before the biggest game of the year? all because Robbo loves to see him smile… or was it because of the colour of his skin? either way it was offensive and utter bog standard coaching

                    Is it any wonder we got thoroughly bashed by the opposition and left for dead by the referees the next day?

                    If Robbo stays here indefinitely… God help us… I would like for him to prove me wrong… because I don’t see him winning another premiership either… either here or elsewhere

                    How do you think he would go next year at some of those clubs you mention?
                    I guess some people are more easily offended than others. I just took it as the coach being asked his position on an issue and that was it. I don't think his response had anything to do with the way the game played out and you're drawing a massively long bow saying it did.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post

                      Well that is impossible to say unless it was your job to know every single assistant in rugby league… both here and in the UK… what is obvious though is that there are many capable assistants waiting for an opportunity… just like Robbo 10 years ago

                      Look at Webster… he looked out of his depth when he stepped in for Cleary and Ciraldo a year ago… yet look what he’s doing now at the Warriors

                      People are talking about Cordner for Origin… look what Slater has done with QLD… there are always options… particularly when your own coach is well below standard
                      Webster has to be coach of the year for the transformation of the warriors with a no name roster and reinvigorating Shaun Johnson into being a premier game manager.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post

                        He’s not the greatest Roosters coach… where on Earth did you get that idea? Jack Gibson would be rolling in his grave

                        Even Gus and Ricky had a similar win percentage… and the Roosters have been stacked these last 10 years

                        Stop deifying the fool… he easily could have lost 2 GFs… and pretty much deserved to lose one if we’re being honest… people would have a different opinion of him had that been the case
                        LOL.

                        "Robbo almost lost 2 grand finals so he is shit"

                        Fk, I hope some of you no-hopers are trolling.

                        You'll blame him for 2023 being a bad year, and in the same sentence give him no credit for the decade of success prior.

                        The lack of intellect among some of you anti-Robinson brigade is pretty mindblowing.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post

                          Yeah Ricky was the gold standard back in those days… should never have lost to the Panthers though… losing to the Dogs was somewhat forgivable

                          It was a long time ago… so perhaps you can remind me… did he use to wear his heart on his sleeve like he does now during those GF years? or did that all come after?
                          Ricky and Robbo are totally different, and different scenarios when they came in.

                          Ricky was able to take advantage of a huge cultural transformation initiated by Gould and continued by Murray. The Roosters between 96 and 2001 incrementally improved every year, culminating in the Grand Final win and subsequent appearances. Ricky DOES deserve credit for that win. He was the right coach at the right time. He is not a bad coach. But he has big flaws....his overemotional charachter does not work with every player, and when things go pear shape he seems to get deeper and lower rather than being able to pull his teams out of the rut.

                          Robbo came in at the end of (with the exception of 2010's Carney led miracle) a long period of underachievement at the Roosters. The culture was poor. We regularly had players misbehaving off the field, and not putting in on the field. Robbo is primarily responsible for our huge cultural turnaround which resulted in 3 Grand Final wins in a decade, and the breaking of NRL For and Against records across a season or two as well. We are the most successful club of the past decade, with Robbo at the helm (if Premierships are your yardstick).

                          Which makes the Robbo hate really bizarre and retarded to put it bluntly. Some of our fans are spolit, and in particular the youngest generation of fans have no ability to cope with a bit of hardship because they've never know it - we've been so successful for so long after Robbo.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Steakface View Post

                            LOL.

                            "Robbo almost lost 2 grand finals so he is shit"

                            Fk, I hope some of you no-hopers are trolling.

                            You'll blame him for 2023 being a bad year, and in the same sentence give him no credit for the decade of success prior.

                            The lack of intellect among some of you anti-Robinson brigade is pretty mindblowing.
                            So everyone who agrees with you is smart ? The Holier than thou or i'm smarter than you brigade on here is hilarious.
                            It's ok to have different opinions, just state yours and move on.
                            My opinion is that Robinson has fukked up this year, and last year, got too big for his boots and got fat as well.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Steakface View Post

                              Ricky and Robbo are totally different, and different scenarios when they came in.

                              Ricky was able to take advantage of a huge cultural transformation initiated by Gould and continued by Murray. The Roosters between 96 and 2001 incrementally improved every year, culminating in the Grand Final win and subsequent appearances. Ricky DOES deserve credit for that win. He was the right coach at the right time. He is not a bad coach. But he has big flaws....his overemotional charachter does not work with every player, and when things go pear shape he seems to get deeper and lower rather than being able to pull his teams out of the rut.

                              Robbo came in at the end of (with the exception of 2010's Carney led miracle) a long period of underachievement at the Roosters. The culture was poor. We regularly had players misbehaving off the field, and not putting in on the field. Robbo is primarily responsible for our huge cultural turnaround which resulted in 3 Grand Final wins in a decade, and the breaking of NRL For and Against records across a season or two as well. We are the most successful club of the past decade, with Robbo at the helm (if Premierships are your yardstick).

                              Which makes the Robbo hate really bizarre and retarded to put it bluntly. Some of our fans are spolit, and in particular the youngest generation of fans have no ability to cope with a bit of hardship because they've never know it - we've been so successful for so long after Robbo.
                              An extremely fair and accurate assessment Steakface… until your last paragraph

                              Robbo deserves an immense amount of respect… and he has that here at the Roosters… but as time goes on people change mate… and Robbo definitely has… and it’s not always for the best

                              This season… and the end of last season… have been a monumental disaster… if we didn’t have the cattle? no worries… that’s going to happen occasionally as it has in the past… but that’s simply not the case these days… far from it

                              How many years do you want to give this guy now because of the past? An indefinite amount? We/he have absolutely blown it this year… this is objectively the best squad in rugby league… that is a widely held opinion… and if the results don’t reflect that? it’s simply… ONLY… because of the guy in charge

                              Much respect to Robbo… but he is a pretty much useless coach these days… and one who can’t even hit the baseline performance of his squad let alone elevate them like other coaches do

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                              • #75
                                Can we please stop with the ‘well who do you want replace Robbo with? There’s no one’ dribble.

                                Cmon, that’s old, get some new material.

                                I think the club could get creative and find someone if they deem Robbo’s times up. Plus I hate the fact the some on here think we have to accept mediocrity and just put up with Robbo at the helm because there is little competition to replace him.

                                I am happy to give Robbo time to fix this mess he has put us in. But if he doesn’t, he needs to go. He does look too comfortable to me as others have mentioned, it’s time he found another gear. Let’s hope he does it sooner rather than later.

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