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[Paddo Colt 61]

Pretty sure Radley also took a knee in the circle after the Dolly’s game. For all his troubles, who could blame him?

Radley went to Champagnat College (formerly Marist Bros)at Pagewood. The cool-ade's probably still working. At my catholic school re-union I was amazed that so many had kept the faith.

Douehi takes the religious observance cake blessing himself after tries as he does. Again it's derivative of NFL like so much of the hoopla now. You never saw Johnny Raper or Kevin Ryan or Artie celebrating like galahs after a score, not a footy type score anyway it was a drug free time Maybe a quiet handshake from the Skipper was sufficient and humble enough? Ken Irvine did cross himself before kicks at goal but he was an outlier. The NRL must be non secular, ban the prayer sessions they're un-NRL.

[Waylander]

Radley went to Champagnat College (formerly Marist Bros)at Pagewood. The cool-ade's probably still working. At my catholic school re-union I was amazed that so many had kept the faith.

Douehi takes the religious observance cake blessing himself after tries as he does. Again it's derivative of NFL like so much of the hoopla now. You never saw Johnny Raper or Kevin Ryan or Artie celebrating like galahs after a score, not a footy type score anyway it was a drug free time Maybe a quiet handshake from the Skipper was sufficient and humble enough? Ken Irvine did cross himself before kicks at goal but he was an outlier. The NRL must be non secular, ban the prayer sessions they're un-NRL.

Even Father John Cootes kept his faith largely under wraps when he was playing.

[The Lip]

Radley went to Champagnat College (formerly Marist Bros)at Pagewood. The cool-ade's probably still working. At my catholic school re-union I was amazed that so many had kept the faith.

Douehi takes the religious observance cake blessing himself after tries as he does. Again it's derivative of NFL like so much of the hoopla now. You never saw Johnny Raper or Kevin Ryan or Artie celebrating like galahs after a score, not a footy type score anyway it was a drug free time Maybe a quiet handshake from the Skipper was sufficient and humble enough? Ken Irvine did cross himself before kicks at goal but he was an outlier. The NRL must be non secular, ban the prayer sessions they're un-NRL.

It’s official the metamorphosis is complete - Paddo is now Joseph Stalin.

[HDTONE]

Douehi takes the religious observance cake blessing himself after tries as he does. .

So does Kiraz and Cleary says a quick prayer before the game. A lot of the islander players will do similar. Personally I'm not bothered.

[player 1]

Radley went to Champagnat College (formerly Marist Bros)at Pagewood. The cool-ade's probably still working. At my catholic school re-union I was amazed that so many had kept the faith.

Douehi takes the religious observance cake blessing himself after tries as he does. Again it's derivative of NFL like so much of the hoopla now. You never saw Johnny Raper or Kevin Ryan or Artie celebrating like galahs after a score, not a footy type score anyway it was a drug free time Maybe a quiet handshake from the Skipper was sufficient and humble enough? Ken Irvine did cross himself before kicks at goal but he was an outlier. The NRL must be non secular, ban the prayer sessions they're un-NRL.

I'm a lapsed catholic too. But I don't mind others having religious beliefs (as long as they are not an imposition on non-believers).

I do find it amusing though how those of Christian faith are widely and openly lampooned and derided in public forums now. This doesn't seem to attract the same disapproval as criticism of other religions.

Even smoking ceremonies and Ernie Dingo's welcome to country are expected to be treated with the utmost reverence.

I noticed during indigenous round that crowds are now being ordered by the ground announcer to "please stand for the welcome to country". I mean, what the actual fark?

[Bates]

More than 40% of the athletes playing NRL and NRLW are of Maori or Pacifica heritage with most having deep religious faith. This is not only exclusive to the aforementioned cultures. Australian rep players Nathan Cleary and Lindsay Collins will pray before and after games.

To ban praying before games could see a huge backlash from NRL players right down to parents who's children play junior footy.

[Paddo Colt 61]

I'm a lapsed catholic too. But I don't mind others having religious beliefs (as long as they are not an imposition on non-believers).

I do find it amusing though how those of Christian faith are widely and openly lampooned and derided in public forums now. This doesn't seem to attract the same disapproval as criticism of other religions.

Even smoking ceremonies and Ernie Dingo's welcome to country are expected to be treated with the utmost reverence.

I noticed during indigenous round that crowds are now being ordered by the ground announcer to "please stand for the welcome to country". I mean, what the actual fark?

Religion of any kind is more and being seen as socially divisive. Oz is fortunate in that it has never been stridently religious and religious affiliation has been widely just nominal. The majority of marriages are now secular and funerals are heading the same way.

Christians, especially, have had abominable press in recent years with the pedophilia infestation and other scandals. 300 years after the Enlightenment and 150 after Darwin, the Sheeple are ever so slowly forfeiting religions that they mostly knew little about anyway and, quite rightly, they see the reality as inconsistent with the preaching. The relative newcomers are the Evangelicals who have made inroads in the Pacifica community and surely we don't need their brand if facile religiosity. Like you Player, most don't mind religious displays until the practitioners gain political power as they have in US and here in the LNP and then we see reversals of Womens' Rights and all sorts of assaults on majority freedoms.

Smoking Ceremonies are signs of respect and an acknowledgement that our Indigenes owned and occupied the country for tens of thousands of years. There is no mysticism in it and it cannot be equated with entreaties to one or other Sky Daddy.

[player 1]

Religion of any kind is more and being seen as socially divisive. Oz is fortunate in that it has never been stridently religious and religious affiliation has been widely just nominal. The majority of marriages are now secular and funerals are heading the same way.

Christians, especially, have had abominable press in recent years with the pedophilia infestation and other scandals. 300 years after the Enlightenment and 150 after Darwin, the Sheeple are ever so slowly forfeiting religions that they mostly knew little about anyway and, quite rightly, they see the reality as inconsistent with the preaching. The relative newcomers are the Evangelicals who have made inroads in the Pacifica community and surely we don't need their brand if facile religiosity. Like you Player, most don't mind religious displays until the practitioners gain political power as they have in US and here in the LNP and then we see reversals of Womens' Rights and all sorts of assaults on majority freedoms.

Smoking Ceremonies are signs of respect and an acknowledgement that our Indigenes owned and occupied the country for tens of thousands of years. There is no mysticism in it and it cannot be equated with entreaties to one or other Sky Daddy.

Also a pretty good little earner for the performers - certainly no mysticism in that.

Also, "women's rights" do not necessarily make it ok to choose abortion as a first line contraceptive method, performed at any stage of the pregnancy. Just my right wing nazi opinion.

[The Lip]

2500 for a welcome to country - that number is 3 years old

[Paddo Colt 61]

Also a pretty good little earner for the performers - certainly no mysticism in that.

Also, "women's rights" do not necessarily make it ok to choose abortion as a first line contraceptive method, performed at any stage of the pregnancy. Just my right wing nazi opinion.

* Probably no more than the singer of the Anthem I'd say and it's not mysticism it's a cultural welcome ceremony.

* No not a Nazi opinion, mostly a Catholic one I'd suggest because I, too, retain a lot of that Catholic guilt thing. It's not easy to completely shake indoctrination that began at age 6. Having said that few of us are flippant about abortion. Abortion as first option contraception is a conservative deception, very few females would have that attitude and even if they did, it's their bodies and their lives. I assume that you expect to have personal control over yours? What is it that Conservatives profess to love, Freedom isn't it?

[player 1]

* Probably no more than the singer of the Anthem I'd say and it's not mysticism it's a cultural welcome ceremony.

* No not a Nazi opinion, mostly a Catholic one I'd suggest because I, too, retain a lot of that Catholic guilt thing. It's not easy to completely shake indoctrination that began at age 6. Having said that few of us are flippant about abortion. Abortion as first option contraception is a conservative deception, very few females would have that attitude and even if they did, it's their bodies and their lives. I assume that you expect to have personal control over yours? What is it that Conservatives profess to love, Freedom isn't it?

150 minutes to come up with that. Ever considered you're not the smartest person in the room after all?

"Abortion as first option contraception is a conservative deception, very few females would have that attitude and even if they did, it's their bodies and their lives"

At some point in pregnancies, maybe not at 20 weeks, but at some point during the pregnancy the baby surely may be considered to have some right to protection - or is it ok at 39 weeks to change your mind and exercise your right to freedom over your bodies and lives? How about to be on the safe side to protect freedom of choice, we offer the choice to kill the newborn up to, I don't know, 2 weeks of age?

[Paddo Colt 61]

Okay but in a world without theology what's the diff? Again the individual's health and mental condition going forward is the legal standard in Oz.

In a world where religion is politically influential like the USA we get no right full stop, doesn't matter if pregnancy is the result of rape or incest or the kid is 12.

Christian hypocrisy is egregious.

[mightyrooster]

Okay but in a world without theology what's the diff? Again the individual's health and mental condition going forward is the legal standard in Oz.

In a world where religion is politically influential like the USA we get no right full stop, doesn't matter if pregnancy is the result of rape or incest or the kid is 12.

Christian hypocrisy is egregious.

Exactly Paddo, exactly. I could never see myself agreeing to an abortion but then I would never conceive of those things you describe ever happening to me or other women or young girls. And yet these things actually do happen in this world, a world where humanity is sometimes...just plain evil and depraved. But let’s just focus on the women and their heartless choices in these situations rather than humanity in general which often turns a blind eye and allows such disgusting behaviour to occur.

[Big Dog]

I'm a lapsed catholic too. But I don't mind others having religious beliefs (as long as they are not an imposition on non-believers).

I do find it amusing though how those of Christian faith are widely and openly lampooned and derided in public forums now. This doesn't seem to attract the same disapproval as criticism of other religions.

Even smoking ceremonies and Ernie Dingo's welcome to country are expected to be treated with the utmost reverence.

I noticed during indigenous round that crowds are now being ordered by the ground announcer to "please stand for the welcome to country". I mean, what the actual fark?

Try lampooning islam and see how you go. Remember the Charlie Hebdo attack https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-special-issue

[Big Dog]

* Probably no more than the singer of the Anthem I'd say and it's not mysticism it's a cultural welcome ceremony.

* No not a Nazi opinion, mostly a Catholic one I'd suggest because I, too, retain a lot of that Catholic guilt thing. It's not easy to completely shake indoctrination that began at age 6. Having said that few of us are flippant about abortion. Abortion as first option contraception is a conservative deception, very few females would have that attitude and even if they did, it's their bodies and their lives. I assume that you expect to have personal control over yours? What is it that Conservatives profess to love, Freedom isn't it?

The unborn child has it's own body and own life, completely separate from it's mother's. A little thing called the placenta. But I'm guessing you failed basic biology at school?
Yes conservatives profess freedom for all, especially those who are totally defenseless in utero.