If Carney was drinking .....

[Spanner in the works]

I hear you mate & I feel for him however the lifestyle he is enjoying in the eastern suburbs is clearly not conducive to someone with his problems.

He has had a few chances with us & a truckload at the Raiders.

He as to go. The NRL & our sponsors will demand it.

This is where the club needs to step in though. I think society will have failed if we sack someone who clearly has a problem, who has done nothing wrong in this case as far as we know, just because of money and public image. He has a problem and we need to support him. Because that's the right thing to do.

[Rooster_6]

Relapse?

The guy barely lasted a week.

If he hasn't got it by now, he never will.

Nearly 2 months.

How time flies when we're having fun

[Spanner in the works]

Relapse?

The guy barely lasted a week.

If he hasn't got it by now, he never will.

It's not that easy, and he has done nothing wrong. Don't punish him by association.

[elo]

I don't know how sacking him helps either him or the club, I would stand him down indefinitely (if he has touched the grog) and get his mother involved and try and fix this all up.

[Johnny Tobin]

It's not that easy, and he has done nothing wrong. Don't punish him by association.

What if he assured his team, coach and the NRL that he would stop drinking - and he goes out late drinking when he is not playing because of injury?

[Big Poppa Pump]

This is where the club needs to step in though. I think society will have failed if we sack someone who clearly has a problem, who has done nothing wrong in this case as far as we know, just because of money and public image. He has a problem and we need to support him. Because that's the right thing to do.

We'll have no choice but to sack him mate.

He doesn't want to be helped and we can't force him.

[Guest]

It's not that easy, and he has done nothing wrong. Don't punish him by association.

I understand he did not commit assault. Watts is the villain here. But Carney recently escaped jail, by a thread. He is attending AA. Any time his name comes up, it gets put in the papers. It brings our club into disrepute, whether it's true or not, because like it or not, people will believe anything.

He should not be drinking, at all. He should have been in Gosford, watching the game from the sidelines.

[Big Poppa Pump]

What if he assured his team, coach and the NRL that he would stop drinking - and he goes out late drinking when he is not playing because of injury?

We have a winner.

We have no choice. As unpalatable as it is, he must & will be sacked.

[Guest]

We'll have no choice but to sack him mate.

He doesn't want to be helped and we can't force him.

If he is in the wrong I dont want to see him wearing our colors ever again...however I think we should stick with him and se him through rehab. Surely we have a duty of care to do so.

[Spanner in the works]

What if he assured his team, coach and the NRL that he would stop drinking - and he goes out late drinking when he is not playing because of injury?

We'll have no choice but to sack him mate.

He doesn't want to be helped and we can't force him.

But you're assuming he has done something wrong? And you're assuming it's that easy to give up the grog? Innocent until proven guilty. I don't know whether this was planned or not, but Rothfield mentioning Carney has worked a charm for his agenda. You've been Rothfielded.

[Big Poppa Pump]

If he is in the wrong I dont want to see him wearing our colors ever again...however I think we should stick with him and se him through rehab. Surely we have a duty of care to do so.

I agree mate but how can we force him to do it?

He promised the club, his team-mates, the coach, the NRL, his mother & every single fan of the game that he would give up the drink & attend AA. That was just over a week ago. Now we read that he's been out at a pub whilst injured in the company of another injured player & known grub.

Personally I think he just doesn't care anymore.

[Big Poppa Pump]

But you're assuming he has done something wrong? And you're assuming it's that easy to give up the grog? Innocent until proven guilty. I don't know whether this was planned or not, but Rothfield mentioning Carney has worked a charm for his agenda. You've been Rothfielded.

Do you honestly think he was just drinking lemonade? Even if the club came out and said that's all he was drinking I would not believe them. Spin doctors and cover-ups.

[ism22]

There is no suggestion that Carney was drinking inappropriately or that he was involved in assaulting anybody. Lets make that clear...

It could be the case that Watts and Carney had 1 beer together while they chatted about how it sux being out. Afterwards (and unrelated) Watts assaulted his wife. Just having a beer with somebody doesn't connect you with a serious crime!

[Andrew Walker]

Do you honestly think he was just drinking lemonade? Even if the club came out and said that's all he was drinking I would not believe them. Spin doctors and cover-ups.

So then he is dammed if he did and dammed if he didnt

[Spanner in the works]

Do you honestly think he was just drinking lemonade? Even if the club came out and said that's all he was drinking I would not believe them. Spin doctors and cover-ups.

It comes back to the fact alcohol is addictive, and the club should have had better minders for him. The club should never have let him get in that position, and if he did drink, then we all know why he did. We can't enable him by not punishing him if he was drinking, but sacking him is far too harsh, given that he has only just come to the realisation he has a drinking problem, and he has only just sought help for it. Sit him on the sidelines (no football - not even Atherton) for two months. Take away his pay for three months. But don't sack him.

Having said that, if he is ever the offender in a serious incident then we have no other option.