Rugby guys and the Roosters....good or bad???

[A Country Member]

The ARU needs to bolster their squad/team so Aus don’t get embarrassingly knocked out in the group stages in a home tournament. Whatever they need to pay to attract talent they would get back tenfold if they make the semis in the RWC.

Batesy would be pissed off but i’ve long thought Latrell would be the perfect fit for the Wallabies. Crowd puller, big boot, tough. Would generate more headlines than ever before.

[SamKerrSimp]

Hopefully the mods let him stick around & dont ban him again, he is a true blue long serving Rooster supporter.
He posted some things that he probably wished he didnt but he was under the pump about things that were said about his wife.

Nah fk the cnt he threatened legal action against the website many times particularly when it came to my former avatar he should be binned forever for taking that stance against Chris and the team.

[SamKerrSimp]

Are you sure about that?

For Roosters-contracted players at schools like Scots or Waverley, fees are typically covered by the club as part of an education allowance, often via scholarships or direct payments. This is allowed under the salary cap.

Do you honestly think the parents of these kids, mostly from modest upbringings, would be able to afford $40K + per year in school fees?

This year I'm told Cranbrook, who have traditionally been like the Wests Tigers of schoolboy rugby, have a few gun players from New Zealand playing for them. They are contracted with the Roosters.

These schools would be approaching NRL clubs and probably even subsidising some of the school fees. It's prestigious for these schools to win the 1st XV, and sacrificing some of the school fees would be nothing to them.

You'll also find that the players have the right to withdraw from a 1st XV game if they are required to play SG Ball, Harold Matthews etc.

A lot of these kids (at least the western sydney ones) play league until they get old enough for scholarships in to the elite schools then they are forced to switch to the other code then when they graduate they are back in to league because the pathways in that code are non existant unless you are generational talent ear marked for the Wallabies.

Obviously not all of them but a lot of them do that.

[Duchess_of_Bondi]

Hopefully the mods let him stick around & dont ban him again, he is a true blue long serving Rooster supporter.
He posted some things that he probably wished he didnt but he was under the pump about things that were said about his wife.
Yes he googles things which annoys some people but he also comes up with some good informative posts.

So are people now going to think Im King Salvo aka David Sutherland?
Probably but then theres people on here that think Im a Souths man, what can you do?
And Batesy you are the best sh!t stirrer on here but you add heaps of value to the place as well.

Well said Mickie. As long as no-one is making anyone feel unsafe on here, it shouldn't matter what user name or account anyone posts under as far as I'm concerned. Stalking or trolling is a bit out of fashion these days anyway.

Bates is a great judge of character and I really enjoy coversing with him on all kinds of topics. It's really good to see new members joining anyway and I hope to see more of it if we really have a good healthy 2026 premiership campaign.

[Headless Chook]

I see where youre coming from & I dont disagree but there will always be kids who aspire to play for the Wallabies & travel the world. League cannot compete with that.

Yeah I don't disagree. I just think there are more kids that grow up wanting to play SOO, or for the Roosters, or Broncos then the Wallabies.

["gaz"]

Around 2023 the NRL were talking about Salary Cap concessions if a team poached a Union or AFL payer,. Did these concession ever eventuate?




A article from November 2023

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-...nded/103104830

[Mickie Lane]

Yeah I don't disagree. I just think there are more kids that grow up wanting to play SOO, or for the Roosters, or Broncos then the Wallabies.

Maybe.
At the end of the day we're lucky that kids grow up wanting to play SOO, or for the Roosters, or Broncos or the Wallabies.
If your good enough to play at that level whether its League or Union you've got my vote.
Just so Im clear League is such a better game then Union to watch & I loved playing League when I was young but I did play Union at school & I really liked playing with other guys my mates from my school we were closer. Playing junior League was more like NRL because we had kids in my team that came from different areas than me we werent mates like at school. I was mates with the kids who I played League with but going to school & seeing your mates daily made playing Union fun.

[Headless Chook]

Maybe.
At the end of the day we're lucky that kids grow up wanting to play SOO, or for the Roosters, or Broncos or the Wallabies.
If your good enough to play at that level whether its League or Union you've got my vote.
Just so Im clear League is such a better game then Union to watch & I loved playing League when I was young but I did play Union at school & I really liked playing with other guys my mates from my school we were closer. Playing junior League was more like NRL because we had kids in my team that came from different areas than me we werent mates like at school. I was mates with the kids who I played League with but going to school & seeing your mates daily made playing Union fun.

In regional NSW in the 80's it was league in winter and cricket in summer. The rugby players were the guys who couldn't make the league teams. My best mate to this day was one of the rugby guys. I think mateship is in every sport and in a lot of cases its the environment that makes it special.

[Bansai Pipeline]

With 3 of our players now going to Rugby, should we just stay away from rugby players unless they have achieved in that code and look likely to stay in league.JS was too young and was always going, Angus Im OK with going as he has had his time here and contributed (some good some bad).
Marky Mark I expected a few more years from but he was always a risk.

My main concern is the generation coming through our ranks who we place into elite private schools and are playing rugby. We will always be at risk of them going back if they are playing well.
Put all the time and money in and then its going to be touch and go every contract. I just want league die hards who have never played rugby and who have no interest from either party.

At the same time, hence the question marks, maybe if we do have cross coders, it could be advantageous to our cap. They can learn league and excel, do some quality time and contribute to us at reasoable prices knowing they can cash up big later on in rugby OS. (Joey Manu for example, Marky Mark to a degree) And maybe Sualii would come back at reasoable $$ once he does what eh wants in union and makes bank???

Is this a good strategy actually??? Can lead to insatbilitty every contract but also work to our advantage... thoughts??

I don't know what I think of it.

On one hand I don't love it as rugby is relatively softer sport, certainly in terms of who plays it. And you're right, players with rugby backgrounds are always going to feel the pull of a Wallabies jersey - particularly when there a World Cup looming.

But on the other hand, GPS rugby has basically become our junior base. God love the Colts, United etc but that's hardly enough. So there's no option really.

Still, it's pretty annoying that we've basically become the NRL's rugby club.

Having three Chooks in the Wallabies is gonna be hard to watch.

[Chook2]

I don't know what I think of it.

On one hand I don't love it as rugby is relatively softer sport, certainly in terms of who plays it. And you're right, players with rugby backgrounds are always going to feel the pull of a Wallabies jersey - particularly when there a World Cup looming.

But on the other hand, GPS rugby has basically become our junior base. God love the Colts, United etc but that's hardly enough. So there's no option really.

Still, it's pretty annoying that we've basically become the NRL's rugby club.

Having three Chooks in the Wallabies is gonna be hard to watch.

We are in the eastern suburbs with many private schools around so we will continue to have these situations

it is tough though when you loose more then other clubs to rugby
that’s over $3m of talent with 4 guys in 2 seasons leaving the nrl

I don’t bellieve rugby is a softer sport, parts of its game are more brutal then league
and the size of their forwards is scary when the average size in the pack is 118-120kg per player
the scrum and work is scary when these players are cleaning each other out from pace and distance

[Tennessee Tornado]

Max Jorgenson just re-signed with ARU for 5 years. $900k +

[David Sutherland]

Yes 5 years which reportedly includes 2 "sabbaticals" where Max Jorgenson can play Rugby overseas.

Hard to compete with that money and Rugby does offer a lot more at the international level as far as where tests are played and of course the Rugby World Cup plus the coin on offer to play in Europe and Japan.

[caz]

We are in the eastern suburbs with many private schools around so we will continue to have these situations

it is tough though when you loose more then other clubs to rugby
that’s over $3m of talent with 4 guys in 2 seasons leaving the nrl

I don’t bellieve rugby is a softer sport, parts of its game are more brutal then league
and the size of their forwards is scary when the average size in the pack is 118-120kg per player
the scrum and work is scary when these players are cleaning each other out from pace and distance

yeah, we're situated in the east but with a salary cap and clubs limited to 30 players there will always be players from other clubs who have slipped through the net and represent good value. our core recruitment will always lie with players who didn't grow up in the east

[milanja]

Yes 5 years which reportedly includes 2 "sabbaticals" where Max Jorgenson can play Rugby overseas.

Hard to compete with that money and Rugby does offer a lot more at the international level as far as where tests are played and of course the Rugby World Cup plus the coin on offer to play in Europe and Japan.

The appeal is there, but only for select players

the average league player would be on quite a bit more than the average union player, doesn’t need to move his whole family to another country to get that good money either.

there is a reason only a few actual top quality league players jumped ship.

[mattyh]

Yea. Seems were cosy with the waratahs , but weve lost way more then we gained...manu, suall'i, gus...gained mark , lost mark seems a dud deal to me