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[Guest]

BA where should we be without a single playmaker who can set the team for a FG, or get repeat sets, or kick to the corners not dead or down a FBs throat, or hold the ball and take a tackle instead of trying the miracle offload, or give away mindless penalties week in week out, or give up when our mistakes take their toll???

I haven't seen a coach who has so little talent in the playmaking roles to work with. TBH I reckon we are lucky to still be mathmatecially at least in contention. I don't see how any coach could do much with our lack of playmakers. When games are on the line we have NFI. IMO it's either you have it or you don't, you can't coach class. Sure you can teach a bloke how to physically kick a FG with practice and technique but unless they can execute under pressure it's wasted.

IMO we have no class in this squad.

And enter our 2 new recruits next season to help address this weakness...

[ROC181]

BA where should we be without a single playmaker who can set the team for a FG, or get repeat sets, or kick to the corners not dead or down a FBs throat, or hold the ball and take a tackle instead of trying the miracle offload, or give away mindless penalties week in week out, or give up when our mistakes take their toll???

I haven't seen a coach who has so little talent in the playmaking roles to work with. TBH I reckon we are lucky to still be mathmatecially at least in contention. I don't see how any coach could do much with our lack of playmakers. When games are on the line we have NFI. IMO it's either you have it or you don't, you can't coach class. Sure you can teach a bloke how to physically kick a FG with practice and technique but unless they can execute under pressure it's wasted.

IMO we have no class in this squad.

If Smith was coaching Souths and he had to replace Merritt at fullback because he was injured, would you ever think he would come up with a master stroke to put Ingliss there? Smith has no vision. Smith has peaked and it's down all the way unless Politis gets rid off him.

[stsae]

If Smith was coaching Souths and he had to replace Merritt at fullback because he was injured, would you ever think he would come up with a master stroke to put Ingliss there? Smith has no vision. Smith has peaked and it's down all the way unless Politis gets rid off him.

Your opinion may well be right as may your example but the fact remains we often get to the position to win games but have no one to actually execute under pressure to get the wins.

Is that coachable in a player??? Usually match winners are always match winners. They may drift in and out of form or improve with age but from when they are kids they win games in tight pressure situations. I can't recall anyone in our team at the moment dominate and control a tight game for a good win.

Had we such a player or two this year we wouldnt be discussing Smiffs coaching as we would be comfortably in the 8 right now I believe.

We have a beige team.

[Guest]

I like Brian smith as our coach. Right guy for the job

[The Rooster Oracle]

BA where should we be without a single playmaker who can set the team for a FG, or get repeat sets, or kick to the corners not dead or down a FBs throat, or hold the ball and take a tackle instead of trying the miracle offload, or give away mindless penalties week in week out, or give up when our mistakes take their toll???

I haven't seen a coach who has so little talent in the playmaking roles to work with. TBH I reckon we are lucky to still be mathmatecially at least in contention. I don't see how any coach could do much with our lack of playmakers. When games are on the line we have NFI. IMO it's either you have it or you don't, you can't coach class. Sure you can teach a bloke how to physically kick a FG with practice and technique but unless they can execute under pressure it's wasted.

IMO we have no class in this squad.

Mate you just have to look at the dogs and $ouff$. The dogs had Hodkinson out injured for quite sometime so the dogs had to resort to using Keating and Josh Reynolds in the halves. Keating who has always been a rubbish player and Reynolds who was a reserve grader, now look at where the dogs are, both players are playing very good footy and it is all down to a bloody good coach in Hasler.

$ouff$ have Sutton and Adam Reynolds. Sutton has always been a rubbish player and Reynolds is a rookie. Look at where they are and it is all down to a bloody good coach in Maguire!!

We have seen in patches what Pearce can be capable of, its just that Smiffy is incapable of getting that out of him on a regular basis!

So yeah Smiffy has a bit to answer for and has NO excuses!! We have been very lucky in the injuries department this year especially compared to quite a few other teams. How many did the sharks have out against us last night? Gallen, Smith, Best, Gardner and there were a few others weren't there and we still could not beat them. Add to that a very depleted broncos side a month ago, along with manly.

[stsae]

Mate you just have to look at the dogs and $ouff$. The dogs had Hodkinson out injured for quite sometime so the dogs had to resort to using Keating and Josh Reynolds in the halves. Keating who has always been a rubbish player and Reynolds who was a reserve grader, now look at where the dogs are, both players are playing very good footy and it is all down to a bloody good coach in Hasler.

$ouff$ have Sutton and Adam Reynolds. Sutton has always been a rubbish player and Reynolds is a rookie. Look at where they are and it is all down to a bloody good coach in Maguire!!

We have seen in patches what Pearce can be capable of, its just that Smiffy is incapable of getting that out of him on a regular basis!

So yeah Smiffy has a bit to answer for and has NO excuses!! We have been very lucky in the injuries department this year especially compared to quite a few other teams. How many did the sharks have out against us last night? Gallen, Smith, Best, Gardner and there were a few others weren't there and we still could not beat them. Add to that a very depleted broncos side a month ago, along with manly.

I agree Smiff has to take equal responsibility as the players, after all he picks them each week, no excuses. Look at 2010 he had playmakers, we won games.

What I'm saying is look at your examples, say the 1/2s cancel our 1/2s from both clubs, how do you account for Ennis and Barba and Inglis and Luke??? Cos a comparison to Mini and Friend is embarrassing.

Look at Melba without Smiff and Slater, and with their 1/2s, at home, against a very understrengthed Faiders team. Belted.

Poocastle without at least a couple of very good playmakers, no better than us, in fact they should be they have a better roster IMO.

Coaches are made by quality players. Sure there are much better coaches than Smiff out there. But if you just blame the coaching and expect us to be playing any better without at least 2 playmakers in the squad our opinions will differ.

[ROC181]

Your opinion may well be right as may your example but the fact remains we often get to the position to win games but have no one to actually execute under pressure to get the wins.

Is that coachable in a player??? Usually match winners are always match winners. They may drift in and out of form or improve with age but from when they are kids they win games in tight pressure situations. I can't recall anyone in our team at the moment dominate and control a tight game for a good win.

Had we such a player or two this year we wouldnt be discussing Smiffs coaching as we would be comfortably in the 8 right now I believe.

We have a beige team.

Well our match winners in the last few years who are still with us are Anasta, Mini & Pearce. Sure they are not JT, barba or Slater but they should have enough experience to win games with their talent. I will not blame Anasta & Mini altogether because Smith plays them the way he wants them and it's not working out and yet Smith has them doing the same crap every week. I bet that Anasta has a blinder next year with Sheens coaching. Players want to play with good coaches and it's finally hit the squad that Smith is a push over. He will never win anything here.

[Guest]

I would think that smith would unload on Aubo, rather tan a rookie. The missed tackles and dropped balls were those of a rookie, not a guy who has been around for 60 odd games. Aubo deserved the hook last night, and needs a stint at Newtown. Pathetic.

[The Rooster Oracle]

I agree Smiff has to take equal responsibility as the players, after all he picks them each week, no excuses. Look at 2010 he had playmakers, we won games.

What I'm saying is look at your examples, say the 1/2s cancel our 1/2s from both clubs, how do you account for Ennis and Barba and Inglis and Luke??? Cos a comparison to Mini and Friend is embarrassing.

Look at Melba without Smiff and Slater, and with their 1/2s, at home, against a very understrengthed Faiders team. Belted.

Poocastle without at least a couple of very good playmakers, no better than us, in fact they should be they have a better roster IMO.

Coaches are made by quality players. Sure there are much better coaches than Smiff out there. But if you just blame the coaching and expect us to be playing any better without at least 2 playmakers in the squad our opinions will differ.

I'm glad you agree that Smiffy has to take responsibility for our current predicament. As you say in 2010 we won games and made the grandfinal, with plenty of help from Carney along with Friend, Pearce and Mini. They were enjoying the honeymoon period for Smiffy's first year. I agree that we are a playmaker or two short from being able to make another grandfinal now that Carney is gone, but we have enough there at the moment to at least make the top 8.

I believe we have a better roster than the knights, and as I said in another post about the storm losing to the raiders "doesn't help when you take the Australian fullback and hooker out of your team and the Australian halfback is not at his best as he is buggered after a long very physical and mentally draining state of origin series.

I think you got it around the wrong way, quality players are made by the coach. But yes it certainly does help the coach to have some quality players. I believe that we do have some quality players there at the moment that Smiffy is not getting the best out of.

[Headless Chook]

I'm glad you agree that Smiffy has to take responsibility for our current predicament. As you say in 2010 we won games and made the grandfinal, with plenty of help from Carney along with Friend, Pearce and Mini. They were enjoying the honeymoon period for Smiffy's first year. I agree that we are a playmaker or two short from being able to make another grandfinal now that Carney is gone, but we have enough there at the moment to at least make the top 8.

I believe we have a better roster than the knights, and as I said in another post about the storm losing to the raiders "doesn't help when you take the Australian fullback and hooker out of your team and the Australian halfback is not at his best as he is buggered after a long very physical and mentally draining state of origin series.

I think you got it around the wrong way, quality players are made by the coach. But yes it certainly does help the coach to have some quality players. I believe that we do have some quality players there at the moment that Smiffy is not getting the best out of.

Don't necessarily agree with that. Quality players are quality players regardless of who coaches them, that's what sets them apart from your average first grader.

[Guest]

BJ is a serial ball dropper. He is too stupid to play football.
He should get a council job.

Ken oaf mate. The amount if pill that guy spills is probably one of our three NRL leading stats along with lowest completion and most penalties against

[stsae]

Well our match winners in the last few years who are still with us are Anasta, Mini & Pearce. Sure they are not JT, barba or Slater but they should have enough experience to win games with their talent. I will not blame Anasta & Mini altogether because Smith plays them the way he wants them and it's not working out and yet Smith has them doing the same crap every week. I bet that Anasta has a blinder next year with Sheens coaching. Players want to play with good coaches and it's finally hit the squad that Smith is a push over. He will never win anything here.

If you believe all that, we view the game from the opposite directions.

Not much point in arguing, we won't agree.

Not personal, just a different view.

[Guest]

Ken oaf mate. The amount if pill that guy spills is probably one of our three NRL leading stats along with lowest completion and most penalties against

The problem with BJ is when he spills the ball, he spills it ALOT. In 15 games this season, he has gone without an error in 8. Sadly for us, he has also made 3 errors on 4 separate occasions.

[stsae]

I'm glad you agree that Smiffy has to take responsibility for our current predicament. As you say in 2010 we won games and made the grandfinal, with plenty of help from Carney along with Friend, Pearce and Mini. They were enjoying the honeymoon period for Smiffy's first year. I agree that we are a playmaker or two short from being able to make another grandfinal now that Carney is gone, but we have enough there at the moment to at least make the top 8.

I believe we have a better roster than the knights, and as I said in another post about the storm losing to the raiders "doesn't help when you take the Australian fullback and hooker out of your team and the Australian halfback is not at his best as he is buggered after a long very physical and mentally draining state of origin series.

I think you got it around the wrong way, quality players are made by the coach. But yes it certainly does help the coach to have some quality players. I believe that we do have some quality players there at the moment that Smiffy is not getting the best out of.

So are you saying Bellyache made Smiff, Inglis, Slater???

Why when they are out can't he just make some other players play that way???

I mean it's not the only time Melba have been belted without Smiff and Slater. We did it to them late last year, the Faiders did it to them last week, it happened last year thru Origin against the Tigpies I believe and there's the 2008 GF. I'd hazard a guess Melbas record without Smiff is worse than ours was without Freddy.

I've never seen a side without stand out players win a comp, with any coach. I've seen ordinary coaches win comps on the back of great players. Ive seen great coaches win comps with great players.

I can't for the life of me think of the last side that won a comp without some outstanding talent in them.

Who are our outstanding players???

[bondi paul]

looks as though smith is on stilnox