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    There’s a saying in the NFL that the most important player after the starting quarterback is the team’s back-up quarterback.

    When the Cleveland Browns lost quarterback Deshaun Watson to a shoulder injury in November, they signed 38-year-old veteran and 2012 Super Bowl MVP Joe Flacco. He led the club to their third play-off appearance since 1999. At the other end of the spectrum, the New York Jets lost superstar Aaron Rodgers in the first game of the season, chopped and changed with three replacement quarterbacks and missed the play-offs with a 7-10 win-loss record.

    Rugby league’s equivalent is the halfback, who is the chief organiser and communicator in a NRL team.

    This week, two of the game’s leading No.7s – Nathan Cleary and Mitchell Moses – were ruled out with injury.

    When clubs lose a halfback teams can go two ways, says Roosters coach Trent Robinson.

    The coach can put a rookie in, or they can do what the Browns did with Flacco, and bring in an experienced gun-for-hire.

    “Either you develop them through your system like Sandon [Smith] and they’re eventually going to take over that role at some point,” Robinson said. “Or, there’s the back-up half which is almost like a gun-for-hire, where you get them in, and they’ve got some experience, and they come in and back up that role. You see it in the NFL a lot.”

    Sandon Smith was promoted to five-eighth for the club’s impressive 48-6 victory over the Rabbitohs last week after playmaker Luke Keary was subject to the NRL’s 11-day stand down for a concussion sustained in round two.

    Smith, who has been playing off the interchange bench as a utility, is the club’s future No.6.

    “It depends on what role you’re looking for, but Sandon’s both played half and five-eighth, so I really liked that,” Robinson said. “He’s our longer-term plan post-Luke [Keary], and then we’ve got younger ones underneath that developing as well.”

    “[Sharks five-eighth] Braydon Trindall is a good example of that, where he learned his trade underneath in the system, and then he develops into that [starting half]. The benefit of that is that they know the culture really well, they know the team and the dynamics.”

    The other option is buying a halfback with experience to fill in when there are injuries and during Origin. It’s unlikely they’ll ever be the club’s first-choice No.7, but they need to be skilled enough to slot into the starting side at any moment.

    Penrith’s Brad Schneider falls into that category. Schneider debuted for the Raiders in 2021 before making a move to the Super League in England. Now signed on a two-year deal with Penrith, Schneider has taken up the vacancy left by Jack Cogger.



    Ahead of Thursday night, where Schneider had the responsibility of filling in for an injured Cleary against the Roosters, coach Ivan Cleary said he wanted Schneider to “play his own game, and fit into our system.”

    “That’s why he came here, he’s followed a couple of other halves that have done well in that role over the last couple of years, so that’s what we’re expecting of him.”

    The 23-year-old was instrumental in the Panthers 22-16 victory on Thursday and slipped into the team so well you’d be forgiven for thinking he’d played there for years.

    It’s no small feat filling in for the best halfback in the game, but Schneider said his job was straightforward.

    “To be honest, it’s a pretty simple role for me. You’ve got people like Isaah Yeo and Dylan Edwards, and it makes my job so much easier, they have a big impact on what the team’s doing and how it’s rolling,” Schneider said after the match.

    “So I pretty much slot straight in and my game is pretty easy after that when you’ve got players like that.”

    Despite being new to the team, and on debut for the Panthers, Schneider said he had no trouble steering the team around.

    “To be a halfback in any team, you’re the dominant half, you’re the half that gets them round the park and that’s my job, and I think in any team, you go in and that job you’ve got to do as a halfback, it doesn’t matter what team you go into,” he said.

    “So, it’s sort of stock-standard. That’s what you’d expect from a halfback, and that’s what they want. They want someone to come in and be able to be a voice and tell them where they’re going and what’s happening, and that makes their game a lot easier as well. But they’ve given me a lot of confidence to be able to do that and that’s what they want from me and that’s what I can do.”

    The Roosters have employed that kind of gun-for-hire player in the past.

    “We did that a few years ago with Drew Hutchison,” Robinson said. “So, he came in an – and stayed for a long time because he could play other positions – but he was that gun for hire.”

    Hutchison left for the Bulldogs this year to take up a starting halves position alongside Matt Burton. It was the same reason Cogger left for Newcastle, and after beginning the season on the interchange bench, he’s been upgraded to No.7.

    It can be difficult to retain players, said Robinson, especially if they’re sitting behind a halfback as good as Cleary or Moses, and sometimes you lose people anyway, for money or a position.

    Panthers playmaker Jarome Luai is an example of that, said Robinson.

    Luai is off to the Wests Tigers next year, on a lucrative deal, but also the chance to be the club’s No.7. If his performance on Thursday – where he put bombs up that had the Roosters back line scrambling – is anything to go by, he’ll step into the halfback role with ease.

    Eels coach Brad Arthur has opted for something in the middle. He’s moved experienced playmaker Dylan Brown to halfback and is giving young gun Blaize Talagi an opportunity at five-eighth.

    Talagi had an impressive first-grade debut last week in the centres, where he barrelled over the top of Manly fullback Tom Trbojevic to score.

    “He’s a kid learning his trade, he’ll get things wrong, but he’ll move on and keep going with the game, and that’s what I like about him,” Arthur told this masthead.

    “He also played all his junior reps at five-eighth, and it was only last year we played him in the centres and at fullback to have a look. When I spoke to him today about being at No.6, he was excited and couldn’t get the smile off his face.”


  • #2
    Big for Robinson to come out and declare the 6 jersey as Smith's after Keary retires.

    Toby Rodwell has been absolutely carving up SG Ball, I imagine he will get some time in Flegg and possibly NSW Cup this year. Looks a very bright prospect.

    Been a shame to see Cassius Tia and Ethan Strange leave in recent years.

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    • #3
      I still can't see us pressing forward with Smith & Walker in our halves despite what Robbo is quoted as saying

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      • #4
        That's a lot of words for what is nothing more than an excuse for Keary's lack of form.
        1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
        1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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        • #5
          Keary can be the NSW Cup gun for hire.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post
            Keary can be the NSW Cup gun for hire.
            May your ass groove stay firmly implanted on the couch at home, and nowhere near the Coaches box.

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            • #7
              I was watching Australian Story tonight and I think we've found Keary's biological father. Angus Young.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                Big for Robinson to come out and declare the 6 jersey as Smith's after Keary retires.

                Toby Rodwell has been absolutely carving up SG Ball, I imagine he will get some time in Flegg and possibly NSW Cup this year. Looks a very bright prospect.

                Been a shame to see Cassius Tia and Ethan Strange leave in recent years.
                I have high hopes for Toby Rodwell,looks like a special talent coming through..

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bates View Post
                  I was watching Australian Story tonight and I think we've found Keary's biological father. Angus Young.
                  Hahahaha yes!!
                  Red, White and Bluesters!!!

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                  • #10
                    It seems like we are doing a very good job at recruiting and developing talent in the halves with the teenagers. The challenge then is to pick the best of those moving forward. to keep them on the books. Other clubs are respectful of how we are developing these youngsters and will be keen to poach, people like Gus Gould. We won't keep them all.

                    I like some things I've seen from Hugo Savala too. Not usually a fan of the taller, bigger framed bodies in the halves but he has talent. Bit like young Galvin at the Tigers both will only get more strength and bulk, training with the senior teams.

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                    • #11
                      It's taken a few years for Sam Walker to develop and he's still learning.
                      it's a big call to rely on a rookie to partner Walker when Keary hangs up the boots.
                      Look how souths are going since they let Reynolds go.
                      Experienced halves win grand finals , Cronk won us a premiership with just his voice and boot. That's why I was scratching my head when the Rooster went with Flanagan then Walker. After all the years of lacking polish and direction at times was the reason they hired a very experienced pro in Cronk.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lydon View Post
                        I have high hopes for Toby Rodwell,looks like a special talent coming through..
                        Always hard to tell with young halves as so much of it is about temprament in regards to how they adapt to the top grade.

                        He's got the basics - some really good core skills; good kicking game, lovely footwork, can ball playing into and before the line well.

                        But the most impressive thing in this SG Ball campaign has been his ability to step up in big moments. A number of individual tries scored in times of need for his team, a really good field goal against the Tigers and just his general control over the team has been very impressive. Looks like a natural 7 too, where as I think Smith and Walker are more natural 6's.

                        But like you I'm very excited about him, would love to see him go straight into NSW Cup after the SG Ball season finishes up at the end of next month.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                          But like you I'm very excited about him, would love to see him go straight into NSW Cup after the SG Ball season finishes up at the end of next month.
                          Would not surprise if this happens R6,he will handle the step up fairly comfortably in my opinion..

                          Let’s hope it eventuates as it would greatly benefit his game and expedite his development!

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                          • #14
                            Instead of talking about Jarome Luai in a news article, focus on negating him and the team he plays for.

                            When Robbo speaks too much, he gets fans off side.

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                            • #15
                              Ive never seen Toby Rodwell play but anyone who thinks that Toby Rodwell is the next guy to come into our halves & partner either Walker or Sandon Smith are kidding themselves.
                              NRL is a massive step up from SG Ball.

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