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  • #31
    We are 4 pts off top spot in the competition and we beat souths earlier in the year, but sure...a sack the coach thread is appropriate??!!

    We are too bloody privileged supporting this club. Thank goodness some of our so called fans haven't supported the titans!

    We started last year awfully similar, have faith in Trent and the powers that be to get this right. That is the motivation now to kick on as we are completely directionless in attack.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Nigel Gaffey View Post
      We are 4 pts off top spot in the competition and we beat souths earlier in the year, but sure...a sack the coach thread is appropriate??!!

      We are too bloody privileged supporting this club. Thank goodness some of our so called fans haven't supported the titans!

      We started last year awfully similar, have faith in Trent and the powers that be to get this right. That is the motivation now to kick on as we are completely directionless in attack.
      Yep, we started last year awfully similar. How’d that work out for us?

      So after starting last year similarly, why have we not learned our lesson?

      Fans right now are absolutely entitled. Entitled to better results considering everything going for us. We aren’t the Titans, Wests or the Merge. We are the Roosters. A high profile club. We expect and demand better.
      FVCK CANCER

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post

        I tend to agree with the next poster

        Are you suggesting he is the only man for the job?

        That no one else could have success here?
        Yes i'm suggesting that replacing a coach who has a record of success like Robbo has is absolutely ludicrous- especially considering the list of replacements are confirmed failures. Someone new will have to be given 3-4 years to show some sort of success but in reality most here will want blood if theres 3-4 weeks of failure. Once you start playing musical chairs with coaches you will end up a basketcase

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        • #34
          If the players are as good as everyone thinks, why do they need such good coaching input to perform? As Teddy says its on us as a playing group to perform. Maybe just maybe the group isn't as good as it used to be. Yes, they can pull out a good performance occasionally but not consistently. Keary has lost pace, so has Teddy and Joey Manu. I think their best is in the past and with such an even comp anyone can beat anyone.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by rooster till i die View Post

            If the coach is booted then two of the ones on your list have won comps- Hasler and Madge. I would pick one of those if the coach went.
            Well ill give you credit for at least nominating a replacement.

            With Hasler and Maguire you would want a good juniors pathway because neither of those 2 will be an attraction for any high profile player testing the market. Hasler in particular has made a monumental mess at the Canterbury and Manly in the last decade.....while Maguire had lost the dressing room at his last 2 gigs because of hard arsed ways. It should be noted Maguire had a open cheque book to sign players at the Tigers but could only attract Josh Reynolds, James Tamou and Ken Maumalo.

            Hasler last won a comp in 2011 and Maguire 2014- long time for no success.

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            • #36
              Same story every week, every year lately

              Matty Johns actually bought up a good point that the Roosters haven't changed a single thing about their attacking style of play in years

              Although watching the team yesterday if anyone could tell me what the actual game plan IS i'd love to hear it

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              • #37
                Originally posted by gragra View Post
                If the players are as good as everyone thinks, why do they need such good coaching input to perform? As Teddy says its on us as a playing group to perform. Maybe just maybe the group isn't as good as it used to be. Yes, they can pull out a good performance occasionally but not consistently. Keary has lost pace, so has Teddy and Joey Manu. I think their best is in the past and with such an even comp anyone can beat anyone.
                Hit the nail on the head, Teddy is so slow these days, Keary's game has fallen off a cliff, Manu isn't a half, Suaalii isn't a centre, Cheese is off to a very slow start, Radley has lost his mojo, Walker needs more variety in his game. Our Prop rotation is the only thing going for us as well as Crichton and Sitili coming back. So strange that a Roosters side can't score points as we are only above the Tigers in this regard.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post

                  Yes i'm suggesting that replacing a coach who has a record of success like Robbo has is absolutely ludicrous- especially considering the list of replacements are confirmed failures. Someone new will have to be given 3-4 years to show some sort of success but in reality most here will want blood if theres 3-4 weeks of failure. Once you start playing musical chairs with coaches you will end up a basketcase
                  Understand your point mate but it’s not just 3-4 weeks. It’s the last 2-3 years. I get it, we can’t win it every year but to not learn from our mistakes is an issue that won’t see us improve. It’s also wasting the opportunity we have with the current sides abilities. We’ve gathered a great side and won’t have it forever. Make hay while the sun shines.
                  FVCK CANCER

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                  • #39
                    I agree that the stupid six-again rule has not been a kind one for this club. Robbo is one of the most respected coaches in the NRL and the thought of sacking him to me is ridiculous! If anyone has screwed up it was Uncle Nick - monumentally! - when he said 'see-ya!' to Lattrell! We would have won another comp by now with him in the backline in his rightful position at No. 4.

                    The inability of our team to hold onto the ball has been a major liability, as well as creativity in attack. Billy Smith's return game was promising in that regard, especially in the awful conditions. But we need a ball-playing five-eighth. Walker and Keary back to position and if that doesn't work, recruit someone new.

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                    • #40
                      I think the biggest issue with our current team is the serious lack of balance. We have two halves that play a similar game are some of the worst long kickers in the game. We have 0 pace in the entire squad which hinders our attack and the only person who can beat his man on the outside is out of form and out of position (Manu). We have an unfit hooker who is yet to really find his feet and doesn't really have a great ball playing side to his game. If it's another disappointing season we need to seriously reassess some of our combinations ie cut Keary and build the team around Walker. Dream signing is Burton I think he would be the perfect halves partner for Walker and if that means losing a couple of big players so be it we need to be thinking long term.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Eggspert View Post

                        You assume that Hutch is a top 17 player.

                        I think you should stop assuming.
                        He is though and something you we will never ever be.

                        A Dime a dozen people like you on social media one has to say

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                        • #42
                          Firstly, criticism of Robbo is fair enough at this point. After 10 rounds, our attack certainly should look better than this.

                          However, anyone having a shot at our performances in '20 and '21 are wildly off the mark. We had an unprecedented injury toll in both seasons ('22 not a lot better), and I don't think any coach in the game would've done any better.

                          You also don't lightly sack a three time premiership winning coach.

                          To be honest, I think our defense has looked pretty solid for most of the season. I'm hoping we are going to have a 2018-esque season. With the combinations and attack not working at all for the first 8-9 rounds or so, and then picking up significantly into the back end of the season.

                          Time will tell. The talent is there.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by easternboy View Post
                            I think Robinson is a good man manager but not a great tactical coach. He won premierships when we had great leaders in the team such as SBW and Jimmy Maloney in 2013 and then Cronk and Co in 2018 and 2019. Without good leaders/managers in the team he seems lost. Reminds me of Stuart in 2002 to 2004 with Fitler and post Filter when he was lost and shown the door. I also note he does so many other non-roosters related interviews and articles in the media. These seem to be smoke screens and taking away from his real job of coaching the roosters. You don't see Bellamy and Bennett in the media speaking about greater political issues.
                            I’m not calling for Robbo to leave. I just think other teams have improved while we have rested on our reputation. So what Tedesco is Australian captain. He’s playing terrible footy. Reputation means nothing if you can’t live up to it and our players have just become mediocre while other teams are improving. I suppose when you’ve won premierships then there’s no more hunger and that’s what I see- no hunger to win, it’s just a job for $$$$ for the players and no one much cares if we win, lose or finish in the top 8 or 4.
                            Last edited by roosterchook; 05-08-2023, 12:32 PM.
                            “Soon will the present day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead”- (Baha’u’llah)

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by roosterchook View Post

                              I’m not calling for Robbo to leave. I just think other teams have improved while we have rested on our reputation. So what Tedesco is Australian captain. He’s playing terrible footy. Reputation means nothing if you can’t live up to it and our players have just become mediocre while other teams are improving. I suppose when you’ve won premierships then there’s no more hunger and that’s what I see- no hunger to win, it’s just a job for $$$$ for the players and no one much cares if we win, lose or finish in the top 8 or 4.
                              I'm calling for you to leave. How about those apples?

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                              • #45
                                In 2016 under Robbo we came 15th out of 16th, almost copped the wooden spoon. Then a couple of years later we went on to win our double premiership. So this looks like another bad year and we should still support the coach and not expect to win a premiership every year. There will be bad years. True supporters stick by their team and coach in both good and bad times. Robbo’s record is so awesome it’s worth being patient for him to weave his magic again in a few years time. He’s proven he can take us there but just not always.
                                “Soon will the present day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead”- (Baha’u’llah)

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