NRLW Expansion plans fast tracked

[Rocky Rhodes]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn!

Here we go!

*grabs popcorn*

First and last womens game i watched /will be watching in full..

Did u see that Roosters gal run and do her ACL and basically fall into the tackle?
Ref then sends Saints Gal off for high shoulder shot (10mins in a 70 min game is even more severe that the men's 80min game). And to add salt into the wound the Roosters got a free head knock interchange as well lol Like she would still be playing on her ACL lol

Roosters trainer waiving to stop play near action due to injury...few saints defenders stop and then Roosters run in the match winner......I guess Politis brown bags run deep...

How else does a team winning only 40% of regular season games win a comp....even though it's a mickey mouse comp...

Dodgy as ****...like that Saints no 8 bloke...

[Rooster_6]

That’s the funniest thing I have read from he who felt the need to defend another poster from so called criticism. Geeze you go round in circles a lot mate. I’m getting dizzy just reading this stuff!

I haven’t defended anyone… I was responding to your suggestion for another sub-forum.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Rooster Women's Season Results
Rd 1 vs Broncs LOST 4-20
Rd 2 vs Tits LOST 16-26
Rd 3 vs New team Knights WON 28-12 (knights probably learning each others names)
Rd 4 vs Eels Won 19-18....yeah real convincing hehe
Rd 5 vs Saints LOST 10-16

Only 40% win rate...legit comp...

Semi's VS Broncs...Broncs up 16-0.....then did the remember the brown paper bags call come out?

Could be wrong but gee wiz....

[Rooster_6]

The NRLW is just a woke political gimmick...and once the initial curious phase wears off....like all mickey mouse comps it will be dead within 5 to 10yrs.

It will never be on par with the real NRL...only the woke deluded leftard extremist thinks that.

I think some where between these two extreme view points lies the reality and we don’t hear enough discussion around that because it seems to be such an emotional discussion.

I find it hard to believe that that the game will be dead within 5-10 years given we’re 50yrs into women’s tennis and we just got to watch the explosion of Ash Barty in a declining sport. There’s clearly an appetite for female sporting stars and statistically we know it’s the younger generation who has a higher appetite for female sport so logically as older generations die off you would expect overall interest to increase not decrease meaning women’s sport will probably only begin to peak in 20-30yrs.

Conversely believing they should be paid or treated at the same level of the mens game is mind numbingly stupid and would be detrimental to the short and long term health of the female game, these extreme view points around equality of outcome are dangerous and may well be what end up holding the female game back.

[Rocky Rhodes]

I think some where between these two extreme view points lies the reality and we don’t hear enough discussion around that because it seems to be such an emotional discussion.

I find it hard to believe that that the game will be dead within 5-10 years given we’re 50yrs into women’s tennis and we just got to watch the explosion of Ash Barty in a declining sport. There’s clearly an appetite for female sporting stars and statistically we know it’s the younger generation who has a higher appetite for female sport so logically as older generations die off you would expect overall interest to increase not decrease meaning women’s sport will probably only begin to peak in 20-30yrs.

Conversely believing they should be paid or treated at the same level of the mens game is mind numbingly stupid and would be detrimental to the short and long term health of the female game, these extreme view points around equality of outcome are dangerous and may well be what end up holding the female game back.

I see it as similar to the sevens comp....great interest when it 1st started then it just fell away...

Already we have a saturated sports market and everyone seems to be getting more and more time poor..

Like this current big dreaming of trying to put a game into the US market to try create interest i.e Manly vs Souffs
Big dreaming but the reality is mostly all American's can't distinguish between Union and League and don't give two hoots because they are already saturated..(see link)
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/zero-int...ok_k0cpmc7b04w

At least we agree with your last paragraph.

[rented tracksuit]

I haven’t defended anyone… I was responding to your suggestion for another sub-forum.

Nah bloke. You went on to tell me how to use the forum. You then went on to criticise and defend.

“No one is forcing you to open the thread, nor is anyone forcing you to post in it. It was your free choice and your free will that decided you were going to be the number #1 contributor based on post count to this thread.

If you don’t care about the NRLW then avoid the thread it’s really not that hard, relatively speaking they make up less than 1% of the threads started in this sub-forum.”

As for a sub forum, why do we have them for other things but not this? We have a section for lower grades. Why not one to honor and discuss all things related to women’s footy?

How is is it any different?

[mightyrooster]

Wow, just wow.
I’m a chick who doesn’t play NRLW. Guess that makes me just a woman. Think I’ll escape now. Time for bed…….need my beauty sleep and all.

[rented tracksuit]

Wow, just wow.
I’m a chick who doesn’t play NRLW. Guess that makes me just a woman. Think I’ll escape now. Time for bed…….need my beauty sleep and all.

There is nothing ‘just’ about a woman.

Have a a good Sleep!

[Rooster_6]

I see it as similar to the sevens comp....great interest when it 1st started then it just fell away...

Already we have a saturated sports market and everyone seems to be getting more and more time poor..

Like this current big dreaming of trying to put a game into the US market to try create interest i.e Manly vs Souffs
Big dreaming but the reality is mostly all American's can't distinguish between Union and League and don't give two hoots because they are already saturated..(see link)
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/zero-int...ok_k0cpmc7b04w

At least we agree with your last paragraph.

The problem with sevens, nines and even T20 cricket in my opinion is they are like you said novelty value. They lack the balance between defence and attack that pretty much all great team sports offer and that’s where they lose their entertainment value beyond being short competitions like pre-season lead ups or at the olympics.

Where as I don’t see females playing sport or Rugby league in this instance as a novelty and their game offers the same balance between attack and defence that the mens game does so the games themselves aren’t novelty in value.

There’s no doubt there’s saturation in the sporting and wider entertainment market but when there’s saturation the best thing a business can do is offer a new product and that’s what the women’s game is, it will attract fans who don’t usually watch the NRL and it will likely re-engage with some female fans who had become disenfranchised with the game. It’s not like I’m 100% sold on the idea that the NRLW is going to be successful I think there’s a lot of hurdles they are gong to have to jump over but I don’t also buy into the argument that it has no value beyond being a novelty.

I should also say I think one of the major benefits and wins to come from the NRLW has been the introduction of womens grades at junior grassroots level, I know plenty of females who played the game at a young age but once they hit an age where they couldn’t play in mixed teams any more they had to just simply stop playing. Most went on to either play Oztag or soccer. I think it’s important to give young girls the opportunity to play Rugby league if the demand is there for it which there seems to be at the moment.

[Rooster_6]

Nah bloke. You went on to tell me how to use the forum. You then went on to criticise and defend.

“No one is forcing you to open the thread, nor is anyone forcing you to post in it. It was your free choice and your free will that decided you were going to be the number #1 contributor based on post count to this thread.

If you don’t care about the NRLW then avoid the thread it’s really not that hard, relatively speaking they make up less than 1% of the threads started in this sub-forum.”

As for a sub forum, why do we have them for other things but not this? We have a section for lower grades. Why not one to honor and discuss all things related to women’s footy?

How is is it any different?

I already answered the questions around sub-forums many posts back, no one uses them anymore and they were set up a long time ago. It’s clear that’s not how the users on this forum want to use the site so it wouldn’t make sense.

[rented tracksuit]

I already answered the questions around sub-forums many posts back, no one uses them anymore and they were set up a long time ago. It’s clear that’s not how the users on this forum want to use the site so it wouldn’t make sense.

Fair enough bloke. Maybe we could look at clearing up the other sections then and only have one to post in. What do ya think?

[King Salvo]

I think some where between these two extreme view points lies the reality and we don’t hear enough discussion around that because it seems to be such an emotional discussion.

I find it hard to believe that that the game will be dead within 5-10 years given we’re 50yrs into women’s tennis and we just got to watch the explosion of Ash Barty in a declining sport. There’s clearly an appetite for female sporting stars and statistically we know it’s the younger generation who has a higher appetite for female sport so logically as older generations die off you would expect overall interest to increase not decrease meaning women’s sport will probably only begin to peak in 20-30yrs.

Conversely believing they should be paid or treated at the same level of the mens game is mind numbingly stupid and would be detrimental to the short and long term health of the female game, these extreme view points around equality of outcome are dangerous and may well be what end up holding the female game back.

NRLW Player Payments. Conditions and contractual arrangements will need to be seriously looked at due to the expansion of the NRLW Competition to a proposed 10 team comp in 2023 and ultimately a 17 team comp as they work towards full time professional status one has to say.

I don't think anyone is saying top NRLW players should be receiving 1 mill etc wages though and none of the NRLW players on the Rugby League Players Association (RLPA) women's advisory group are advocating for this either.

The NRL CBA expires in 2022 and the NRLW players need a better deal than they are currently getting as far as payments and conditions go including contractual arrangements - certainly need multi year contracts options especially as players still have to work outside of their football commitments and those with families as players don't know where they will be playing from one season to the next under the season by season contractual and player allocation system.

2022 NRLW Minimum wage was 8k and the highest 28k - that's for a 12 to 14 week season ( pre-season/season and finals)

NRL Men's Minimum wage in 2022 is 120k

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...gue_salary_cap


As the NRL often copies the AFL


The AFLW goes to a full 18 team comp for the 2022/2023 season - length of season under discussion for their CBA which I am sure the NRLW players union will be watching closely as far and wages /conditions and contracts go as they also work towards full time professional status by 2026.

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/af...78ef0efc657b3b

AFLW 2022 was a 8 to 10 week pre-season plus 10 week home and away game season plus 3 week finals series- 23 or so Week season for players in teams that made the GF.

In 2022, the AFLW pay structure was as follows:

• Tier one: $37,155.- Only 2 players paid this at each club
• Tier two: $28,697.
• Tier three: $24,468.
• Tier four: $20,239.- minimum wage

Other pertinent info on salaries in Women's sport

In 2022 (14 game home and away season) Super Netballers were paid an average salary of $74,000, with the top players receiving $ 91,500. Minimum salaries have also grown by 17 per cent to $43,000.

2022 Minimum wages of Australian women in sport: domestic

• Aussie rules (AFLW) – $20,239.
• Basketball (WNBL): $13,500 (2021-22 season) $15,000 (2022-23 season)
• Cricket (WBBL) – $26,000.
• Football (W-League) – $16,344.
• Netball (Super Netball) – $43,000.
• Rugby 15s (Super W) – Unpaid.
• Rugby League: NRLW – $8,000

[King Salvo]

Wow, just wow.
I’m a chick who doesn’t play NRLW. Guess that makes me just a woman. Think I’ll escape now. Time for bed…….need my beauty sleep and all.

Tracky Dacks and Rocky I assume are the same person or at least twins. Amazing that "people" with such antiquated views from a previous century still exist in 2022 .

mmm where's Julia Gillard when you need her- Tony Abbott and that M word comes to mind.

[Bondicigar]

Oh no... watch out Bondi, ‘criticism’ might come your way for having it thrown down your neck as well!

And I thought I was the only one?!?!

Hahaha
I'm not to bothered by what anyone else thinks.
it is blended into the men's game because it's the only way it has any chance of survival.

I have nothing against women playing I just don't want to watch it or have to hear all about it because channel 9 have it front and centre along side the NRL
What can't people understand about that ??
it has nothing to do with what year it is .

Just like on grand final day im there for the main game and not to concerned about the curtain raisers

Each to there own live and let live.
it's just not my cup of tea.

[rented tracksuit]

Hahaha
I'm not to bothered by what anyone else thinks.
it is blended into the men's game because it's the only way it has any chance of survival.

I have nothing against women playing I just don't want to watch it or have to hear all about it because channel 9 have it front and centre along side the NRL
What can't people understand about that ??
it has nothing to do with what year it is .

Just like on grand final day im there for the main game and not to concerned about the curtain raisers

Each to there own live and let live.
it's just not my cup of tea.

Absolutely champ. Agreed on every point. Damn we must be old if those views are from another century. I would rather be living with the morals from that century than muzzling my views to please the selfish woke community of today anyway.