Next week against the Storm

[fletch]

Looks like the Storm will be missing quite a few players next week

Harry Grant
Ryan Papenhuyzen
Nelson Asofa-Solomona
Kenny Bromwich
Reimis Smith
Tom Eisenhuth

If Sam Walker returns and Teddy/Crichton survive SOO2 it might be a more competitive game than most are expecting.

[ROC181]

I think Munster will be out of that game because he will probably kick some one or someone is going to kick him.

[Rooster_6]

Our defence isn't good enough to compete with the likes of Melbourne and Penrith.

It's something that's constantly overlooked but the biggest side effect to injuries/missing players IMO is defensive combinations. It's just something that takes time and work.

Attack can be glossed over by some individual excellence but defence is about the collective efforts of all 13 players.

[ROC181]

The other thing is what are the chances the game gets moved out of the SCG or even the state due to covid? That's going to be very significant.

[dice]

Our defence isn't good enough to compete with the likes of Melbourne and Penrith.

It's something that's constantly overlooked but the biggest side effect to injuries/missing players IMO is defensive combinations. It's just something that takes time and work.

Attack can be glossed over by some individual excellence but defence is about the collective efforts of all 13 players.

Between refs ignoring the shoulder charge on Manu, SST sin bin, refs ignoring the Panther playing the ball forwards, and then four consecutive repeat sets before half time, the game was over before half time.

IMO our defense has been pretty good when 13 players on the field, and fair share of possession. IMO the latter being more of a concern.

[Rooster_6]

Between refs ignoring the shoulder charge on Manu, SST sin bin, refs ignoring the Panther playing the ball forwards, and then four consecutive repeat sets before half time, the game was over before half time.

IMO our defense has been pretty good when 13 players on the field, and fair share of possession. IMO the latter being more of a concern.

Four consecutive repeat sets has to be linked with poor last tackle defence. You've got to get more pressure on the kicker and you've got to be strong in your positional play. It's where we really miss the quality of someone like Borris.

We used to be a lot more resilient when defending with 12 players too, there were periods where we would often outscore the opposition with less players on the field.

[Mickie Lane]

No Keary, no Friend, no Cordner, no Collins, no BMoz & there the ones I know of, no chance of beating Melbourne even if they have 5 out. They don’t need Papenhausen or Grant.

[dice]

Four consecutive repeat sets has to be linked with poor last tackle defence. You've got to get more pressure on the kicker and you've got to be strong in your positional play. It's where we really miss the quality of someone like Borris.

We used to be a lot more resilient when defending with 12 players too, there were periods where we would often outscore the opposition with less players on the field.

You may have a point on putting more pressure on the kickers. And I agree with you that BMoz is a huge loss.

12 players though is a lottery especially when the team is gassed. We have a choice of Teddy playing out of position in a sweeping role, a defender running out of the line to stop the ball spreading, defenders moving faster forwards or sideways. Usually a variation of all those so that we don't become too predictable. In each case the defense is unstructured. It may work against the lower teams, but when you have a Panthers outfit with big forwards, a half on either side of the field that can threaten with the running or kicking, and fast outside backs, it is mission impossible to keep them scoreless. You are in damage limitation mode rather than seriously defending.

[King Salvo]

The Chooks defence is an issue against sides that move the ball and have players in motion and offloading etc - Also the attack is rather limited when confronted by the better defensive teams whose defensive line speed is above the norm.

Vs Penrith the defensive line was at 6 and 7's and rarely did the Chooks have a straight line of defence and attack wise it ended up being a high kick to the fullback on the 5th as the standard end to the set as they often struggled to get past their defensive 30 in the sets they did complete.

The Chooks must improve set completions as the 60 odd % current rate put's way too much pressure on their defence as they do struggle to defend against errors and consecutive sets - needs to be 90% plus completion rates.

They need to focus on 3 aspects of their game for starters - defence / set completions and the kicking game - opportunities will come if they can control the ball and field position.

[Johnny Brass]

Four consecutive repeat sets has to be linked with poor last tackle defence. You've got to get more pressure on the kicker and you've got to be strong in your positional play. It's where we really miss the quality of someone like Borris.

We used to be a lot more resilient when defending with 12 players too, there were periods where we would often outscore the opposition with less players on the field.

Last time one of our players put pressure on the kicker he got 5 weeks. Last week at the end of our first set Lam put up a kick and got hit in the legs which didn't even get rewarded with a penalty.
Losing Brett Morris has been enormous on our team , everyone was so confident in him taking the bombs whereas now every team as identified ikuvalu as a weakness and are going at him hard.
He has also made 3 inexcusable schoolboy errors which have nothing to do with ability but rather just not being switched on.

[TheLoneRooster]

Between refs ignoring the shoulder charge on Manu, SST sin bin, refs ignoring the Panther playing the ball forwards, and then four consecutive repeat sets before half time, the game was over before half time...

When has such a series of events ever happened in the Roosters' favour? I can't think of a time.

Just on their bench prop (leniu) playing the ball improperly, getting away with it, and the pamfers scoring another try soon after, didn't the prick in pink pick up a Roosters player playing the ball less improperly than leniu later in the game? My remote control barely escaped being hurled across the room when it happened.

[Johnny Tobin]

I give us a good chance in that game.

[TheLoneRooster]

Looks like the Storm will be missing quite a few players next week

Harry Grant
Ryan Papenhuyzen
Nelson Asofa-Solomona
Kenny Bromwich
Reimis Smith
Tom Eisenhuth

If Sam Walker returns and Teddy/Crichton survive SOO2 it might be a more competitive game than most are expecting.

Like your optimism fletch, however I'm expecting another loss simply by virtue of the numbers missing. Feel I'm being realistic rather than defeatist.

The one drizzle player I'd like to see miss the R16 game is the grubby, Cordner-concusser, felise kaufusi.

[Johnny Tobin]

The other thing is what are the chances the game gets moved out of the SCG or even the state due to covid? That's going to be very significant.

Very possible. Note that our players will probably not be able to leave Sydney. Melbourne players may not be able to come in. The game could actually be postponed. I would actually prefer cancelled and we get a point each because we won't get a chance later to play them with all those players out and possibly resting origin players.

[zac]

Looks like the Storm will be missing quite a few players next week

Harry Grant
Ryan Papenhuyzen
Nelson Asofa-Solomona
Kenny Bromwich
Reimis Smith
Tom Eisenhuth

If Sam Walker returns and Teddy/Crichton survive SOO2 it might be a more competitive game than most are expecting.

yep, we're a good chance, esp if it's at the scg. they'll also have more players backing up after origin