Flanagan offered more than Lam...

[ROC181]

I fully understand yours and other issues with Lam.My main problem with the Lam bashing is if you look at the players he has had around him in most of those games there has been very few time where he has had quality experienced half , hooker , lock partners .Can't be sure it would make a huge difference but for me I would like to see how he went with Keary , Rads and an experienced hooker .

Around him like...TKO, JWH, Radley (when he was on) Tedesco, Manu, Keary, JMoz & BMoz, Toupo, Chrichton, N Butcher. These are all the players he has had to play alongside JUST this year and there isn't one game where we can all agree he was the best player on the ground, unlike Sam Walker who took his first chance at the top level with all of those players, except Keary and has been a great success...During the Titans game, as soon as Walker got injured, we were clueless cause there was no one that took the reigns to create something, and it was his role to do so but all he did was just put lame bombs (like Pearce used to do) that did nothing other than give the ball back to the Titans, until Sam was brought back probably because he wanted to get back in and stepped up and turned the game in our favour. What you and some others call bashing, I'd say I would call it telling it like it is....Like I said in that other thread that 'someone' closed, a player is not bigger than the club and as a fan I worry that we will get further away from the top 4 if we don't have 2 halves (not just one) giving their all to get the 2 points. Lam has had enough time to show the rugby league world something and if he was good enough, we should be hearing his name alongside all of those young players I named in my previous post.

[ROC181]

How do you or other people on here know what Lam's job is? It's odd as Sam Walker stated as a major reason for signing with the Roosters was that Robbo gave him the freedom to play the game he wanted to play. Are you saying that Robbo doesn't give Lam the freedom but rather is under strict instructions to play a certain way, but Walker isn't? If so, doesn't Robbo trust Lam or does he feel Lam is too limited to play any ad lib football.

We all know Lam can run the ball, but he does it so rarely that either he is under instructions to pass because Robbo doesn't have trust in Lam to do anything spontaneous or he has given Lam the freedom but he doesn't have the confidence to do so.

Lam must be the only player in the comp told not to run with the ball...then again wasn't the reason Flanno was punted was because he didn't run the ball? I had a look at the players stats as supplied by the NRL and if you put Lam and Flannos stats together for this year, it's hard to choose who has had a better year.

[Rooster1908]

Around him like...TKO, JWH, Radley (when he was on) Tedesco, Manu, Keary, JMoz & BMoz, Toupo, Chrichton, N Butcher. These are all the players he has had to play alongside JUST this year and there isn't one game where we can all agree he was the best player on the ground, unlike Sam Walker who took his first chance at the top level with all of those players, except Keary and has been a great success...During the Titans game, as soon as Walker got injured, we were clueless cause there was no one that took the reigns to create something, and it was his role to do so but all he did was just put lame bombs (like Pearce used to do) that did nothing other than give the ball back to the Titans, until Sam was brought back probably because he wanted to get back in and stepped up and turned the game in our favour. What you and some others call bashing, I'd say I would call it telling it like it is....Like I said in that other thread that 'someone' closed it, a player is not bigger than the club and as a fan I worry that we will get further away from the top 4 if we don't have 2 halves (not just one) giving their all to get the 2 points. Lam has had enough time to show the rugby league world something and if he was good enough, we should be hearing his name alongside all of those young players I named in my previous post.

I really think you missed the point .I didn't say young Sam is a superstar, just would like to know the amount of games he has actually played with top line spine players around him. I to think young Sam has done a wonderful job so far but if people want to be realistic he hasn't played a dominant role against a top line team and neither would I expect him to at such and inexperienced stage .

[ROC181]

I really think you missed the point .I didn't say young Sam is a superstar, just would like to know the amount of games he has actually played with top line spine players around him. I to think young Sam has done a wonderful job so far but if people want to be realistic he hasn't played a dominant role against a top line team and neither would I expect him to at such and inexperienced stage .

And Walker has had less chances than Lam yet Sam seems like he is the more experienced of both players when it should be the other way around in games and years.

[Rooster1908]

And Walker has had less chances than Lam yet Sam seems like he is the more experienced of both players when it should be the other way around in games and years.

Again please read where I said Sam has done a wonderful job so far and nowhere did I say he may not be a better player then Lam , I just think given the opportunity to play with more experienced spine on a regular basis Lam may achieve more than he has but with the injuries to key players has not only crueled our season as it did last year but also players like Lam to get valuable experience and the ability the learn from the best

[Headless Chook]

I don't rate Lam highly, but I do take umbrage with the OP saying Flanno offered more. I can't recall Flanagan setting up a try for a team mate like Lam did for Walker against the Titans. I can't recall Flanno even beating a man with a step let alone stepping past 3 or 4 and bursting into open space

[ROC181]

Again please read where I said Sam has done a wonderful job so far and nowhere did I say he may not be a better player then Lam , I just think given the opportunity to play with more experienced spine on a regular basis Lam may achieve more than he has but with the injuries to key players has not only crueled our season as it did last year but also players like Lam to get valuable experience and the ability the learn from the best

Well maybe because there are some typos on yours that I didn't know what you meant...go back & check, but how is that any different for Sam yet he has been outstanding in many games? Lam has been playing games since 2019 and there's not one game where he has been outstanding. He's in an important position and regardless if we are missing some big names, he should be showing more, like Sam is.

[ROC181]

I don't rate Lam highly, but I do take umbrage with the OP saying Flanno offered more. I can't recall Flanagan setting up a try for a team mate like Lam did for Walker against the Titans. I can't recall Flanno even beating a man with a step let alone stepping past 3 or 4 and bursting into open space

Well that seems to be the only time he has ever done that much like scoring the total sum of one try in 19 games...I'd like to see Lam have the nerve to do a clutch play like Kyle did against the Storm at Suncorp last year when he stepped up to take a shot at goals from the sideline which equalised the game in the dying minutes...I know Lam doesn't kick for goals(probably another reason why Flannos is more valuable) but show something FFS to get a game out of the fire!

[Rooster1908]

Well maybe because there are some typos on yours that I didn't know what you meant...go back & check, but how is that any different for Sam yet he has been outstanding in many games? Lam has been playing games since 2019 and there's not one game where he has been outstanding. He's in an important position and regardless if we are missing some big names, he should be showing more, like Sam is.

Typos , lol two reasons , on my phone and obviously not a rocket scientist like yourself. 22 games I think over 3 years doesn't give much opportunity to become a settled player .As said Sam has been outstanding in the few games he has played but has not as yet dominated a half In a top 4 team .But I'm sure in the future with experience the will

[ism22]

And Walker has had less chances than Lam yet Sam seems like he is the more experienced of both players when it should be the other way around in games and years.

Yep that.

Flanno's old news. Robbo's too professional to publicly discuss what went on but IMO it was more than likely a character/attitude issue. We're not privy to the details but I reckon it's fair to say that a lot more goes on behind the scenes than what we read online. They've had a performance discussion and decided to part ways. I mean I just had a performance discussion that I wasn't too happy with, but I didn't have a sook. Rather, I thanked the boss for their development advice (some of which was unfair/BS IMO) and committed to

Lam has shown great attitude and TBH I thought that him and Keighran went alright against the Riff. Not making excuses but it was just a dud game! The Drizz will most likely be a dud game too (I wanna stay positive but they are a level ahead + have no injuries).

Next year I think it's a given that Keary and Walker will be our halves. Verrills will probably be our hooker. Flanno didn't wanna be a bench utility so the question is really one of retaining Lam / Keighran / Hutcho. I've got no short answers to that one, but I don't think Flanno woulda added much to that picture.

[ChookMaster]

We’re lacking a kicker. Lam’s bombs are terrible, it’s like he’s kicking it to a mate down the park.. Walker too he doesn’t have a big boot on him so our bombs aren’t pinning teams in the corners like they used to. I was concerned about lam’s second efforts on a couple of things - his missed touch finder - missed a soft tackle the next play which helped us concede 10-12M and a Penrith try where we rushed up on no one gave Penrith a gap and then tried to back track and arm grab the player who ran past him to put it down. Very frustrating to watch on the replay at the ground.

He doesn’t bark much either I would like for him to steer the boys better because after all he is the senior playmaker.

[Headless Chook]

Well that seems to be the only time he has ever done that much like scoring the total sum of one try in 19 games...I'd like to see Lam have the nerve to do a clutch play like Kyle did against the Storm at Suncorp last year when he stepped up to take a shot at goals from the sideline which equalised the game in the dying minutes...I know Lam doesn't kick for goals(probably another reason why Flannos is more valuable) but show something FFS to get a game out of the fire!

So Flanno kicked one decent goal and Lam set up one decent try. Other than goal kicking Flanno didn't really offer anything

[ChookMaster]

Again please read where I said Sam has done a wonderful job so far and nowhere did I say he may not be a better player then Lam , I just think given the opportunity to play with more experienced spine on a regular basis Lam may achieve more than he has but with the injuries to key players has not only crueled our season as it did last year but also players like Lam to get valuable experience and the ability the learn from the best

Well he’s playing alongside the best player in the world and should actually see that he’s trying and help him out. Instead of Lam sitting back and letting teddy do everything in attack he should step up and actually help contribute to our attack.


It’s been frustrating as hell to hear all this chatter about Turbo being the best FB in the world and all that yes I am not saying that Turbo isn’t a great player and not in tremendous form but with how our attack is going teddy has had to step away from his game and basically lead our attack. People don’t understand this and it’s annoying as hell.

[bondi.boy]

Kyle was top point scorer and had a few tries to his name and all in less than 12 months in the club plus who could forget that clutch moment v Storm at Suncorp to kick from the sidelines? Lam couldn’t kick it out for a penalty.

Some say he had an attitude problem and was not re-signed.

[ROC181]

So Flanno kicked one decent goal and Lam set up one decent try. Other than goal kicking Flanno didn't really offer anything

Scored plenty of points to be leading points up until we got thrashed by south’s in the last round and scored more than one try in his NRL career up to the end of last season…yeah more. But you don’t rate Lam and in that we agree…