Dictatorial authority of the NRL turning them into bullies

[roosterchook]

Instead of consulting players and coaches regarding changes the NRL (Vlandy) wanted to make, they introduced revolutionary laws mid season and then threaten and bully coaches not to say anything or be fined. These heavy handed tactics would be at home in Russia, North Korea or Iran but this is Australia the land of the free and fair.

And the way they are responding to Robbo’s very mild criticisms is to put more rooster players on report. Hand out more 6 agains and penalties to our opponents and sin bin and suspend as many of our players as possible. Not to mention the threat to fine the coach for pointing out their ineptitude and incompetence which every fan can see for themselves.

If this continues I can’t see the players association taking it lying down. but collaborating and sticking it to them and if they know what’s good for them they need to urgently bring the coaches and players into their confidence and consult openly and LISTEN to FANS and PLAYERS and stop acting like bullies and dictators because they’ll soon enough find out this is Australia and we won’t cop it forever.

Im writing this in support of Robbo and those who want our game run in CONSULTATION with all and not by bullies who are on the verge of ruining the game completely.

Go Robbo! Go Roosters!

[barryd]

I think most of our opposition are comfortable with us getting the rough end of the pineapple

[King Salvo]

The NRL rules on Foul play and misconduct are pretty clear- The ref has always had the option of putting a player on report and or sin binning the player or sending the player off - see pages 11 and 12.- Not sure people fully understand this fact.

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/opera...tions_2020.pdf

I don't have an issue myself with the NRL enforcing the existing rules though - just need to address some of the issues i mentioned above


On Field

Replaying the incident in slow motion which can make it look worse than what it actually is.

Whether the Match officials are trained to determine the severity of the offence in determining the course of action to be taken - i.e was it a grade 1 , 2 or 3

Whether the Bunker based in Eveleigh has also been trained on this and are able to tell what the force was from such a distance - especially when seeing this in slow motion- they have more camera angles than what the general public either at the ground or at home/club etc see

The grey area of incidental or accidental contact i.e the arm hitting the ball or shoulder and then hitting the head of the ball for instance - in the past players would get off in these circumstances but not now

Should this be taken into account during a game and how many times as far as judiciary action taking place - i.e if a defensive player is doing this on a somewhat regular basis - is that still an accident or an issue with the players tackling technique?

For those above incidental or accidental ones in a game - is just a penalty and or a reporting sufficient?

Should there be a card system for grade 1's during a game like in Football -penalty player placed on report only - accumulate x number of cards over different games - 1 game suspension and so on

Should only "grade 2's " be subject to sin binning or sending off

"Grade 3's" - sent off

Is a Review of the Judiciary system and process required -last revised in 2012?

Is this still current

The question of loading's for similar/non similar offences in the past 2 years and carryovers.

Is the 7 year incident free for discount too long a time period

The early plea discount

Difference between a player challenging the charge vs challenging the grading - if unsuccessful under both scenarios the player is allocated the full points of the grading - no discount - should there be a discount still if a player does plead guilty but is only challenging the grading?

[barryd]

I don’t think many are questioning the rules. It’s how evenly they are applied.

[easts4eva]

Ever since the superleague war, whoever had been in charge of the Nrl has tried to revolutionise, improve or change the game, Iike its their property or something. Their job is simply manage the game. Great players and coaches revolutionise the game, not them.

[player 1]

The NRL rules on Foul play and misconduct are pretty clear- The ref has always had the option of sin binning the player or sending them off - pages 11 and 12

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/opera...tions_2020.pdf

Is it possible to be literally bored to death by someone?

You make me worry.

[ism22]

The NRL rules on Foul play and misconduct are pretty clear- The ref has always had the option of putting a player on report and or sin binning the player or sending the player off - see pages 11 and 12.- Not sure people fully understand this fact.

We've had this discussion, please stop going back there.

The rules were changed because a zero tolerance (rather than a 'call it how you see it') policy was implemented for any form of contact with the head.

Further, a distinction has been made between a 'send-off' and a 'sin-bin', which may or may not have existed before but if it did exist (technically), I suspect that a 'send-off' would be reserved for an extreme act of uncontrollable violence (i.e. extreme circumstances that we thankfully haven't seen in the modern game of rugby league). Now, refs have been encouraged to make an example of players when there's a particular bad high shot. Like it or not... there's a MASSIVE gap in my mind between a reckless high shot and a player doing something we well... haven't seen yet!

IMO it's not very helpful claiming that the rules haven't changed when they clearly have. The thresholds and overarching policy guidance have both changed dramatically and this has been demonstrated by the record number of fines, penalties and sin-bins this season.

[King Salvo]

Is it possible to be literally bored to death by someone?

You make me worry.

In your case yes especially when you look in the mirror epod

[Grant Hedger]

The NRL has stooges like Kent and Hooper promoting their case, whilst the players have little authority through players’ association and fans have no say at all. Dopes like PVL take the fans for granted and just milk them for their cash. One day soon, the tide will turn and PVLetthemeatcake will be left high and dry. His days are numbered, and cretins like Kent and co will become voiceless.

[player 1]

The NRL has stooges like Kent and Hooper promoting their case, whilst the players have little authority through players’ association and fans have no say at all. Dopes like PVL take the fans for granted and just milk them for their cash. One day soon, the tide will turn and PVLetthemeatcake will be left high and dry. His days are numbered, and cretins like Kent and co will become voiceless.

That's entirely plausible - the game has plummeted to new depths under his autocratic and, more importantly, clueless administration. People know it. In the meantime, expect them to keep lashing out to appear in control. They are clearly not.

[King Salvo]

We've had this discussion, please stop going back there.

The rules were changed because a zero tolerance (rather than a 'call it how you see it') policy was implemented for any form of contact with the head.

Further, a distinction has been made between a 'send-off' and a 'sin-bin', which may or may not have existed before but if it did exist (technically), I suspect that a 'send-off' would be reserved for an extreme act of uncontrollable violence (i.e. extreme circumstances that we thankfully haven't seen in the modern game of rugby league). Now, refs have been encouraged to make an example of players when there's a particular bad high shot. Like it or not... there's a MASSIVE gap in my mind between a reckless high shot and a player doing something we well... haven't seen yet!

IMO it's not very helpful claiming that the rules haven't changed when they clearly have. The thresholds and overarching policy guidance have both changed dramatically and this has been demonstrated by the record number of fines, penalties and sin-bins this season.

Not helpful being ignorant of the rules though or that's it's a NRL conspiracy against the Chooks and Match officials are on the take either IMO

[Serenader]

I think most of our opposition are comfortable with us getting the rough end of the pineapple

Always

[barryd]

Not helpful being ignorant of the rules though or that's it's a NRL conspiracy against the Chooks and Match officials are on the take either IMO

I think so we’re all clear where you are coming from, you should refer to yourself as King Garlick

[ism22]

I get that coaches aren't allowed to use press conferences to speak out against the organisation. Same with my work... if I went on the news and said my boss was doing a cr@p job and then there would be consequences. Doesn't mean that I can't voice my concerns quite strongly in a professional way, but using the media to bring their integrity into question isn't a collegiate way of doing it.

That said, I think V'landys has no doubt changed the culture. Every so often, organisations go through having a dictator in charge who shifts the focus away from fun/progression, towards compliance and crack-downs on anything they have oversight over. I'm more of a progressive. However, a previous boss (CEO-level) was like this and one strength was that they pushed out all the leaners who were taking advantage of the organisation's relaxed culture. I have a love/hate relationship with these types...

[dice]

NRL player poll the biggest issue was interpretation of the rules. Last week 16 players representing all 16 teams unanimously condemned PVL's handling of rule changes. A recent fan poll showed 75% of fans preferred the game as it was in 2019.

The tide has turned... except for the 3 fans who live in a parallel universe where PVL's critics are idiots in the 0.1% minority.