Friend to retire

[Rooster89]

I don't want to be the take away any limelight from his possible retirement. But if he retires immediately, does anyone know how our roster and cap space work.

Does that free up the balance of his salary remaining to use on someone else if need be and does a roster place open up for that as well?

I hope it isn't true and he plays out the year but if it's his decision than god bless him and we're forever thankful as fans for his service to the club.

[mattyh]

well done jake on a magnificent career, achieved everything and put in a hell of a performance in the 18 gf.

your d in the middle will be missed more then any of us know.

but you need to put your health first, well done and thanks.

[player 1]

well done jake on a magnificent career, achieved everything and put in a hell of a performance in the 18 gf.

your d in the middle will be missed more then any of us know.

but you need to put your health first, well done and thanks.

100%

[zac]

I don't want to be the take away any limelight from his possible retirement. But if he retires immediately, does anyone know how our roster and cap space work.

Does that free up the balance of his salary remaining to use on someone else if need be and does a roster place open up for that as well?

I hope it isn't true and he plays out the year but if it's his decision than god bless him and we're forever thankful as fans for his service to the club.

maybe not the time to talk about it but this from nrl physio suggests it might be tricky -

Exact NRL criteria for medical retirement: "Player had no similar injury or medical condition to that area of the body that either has or could reasonably be predicted medically to lead to a degenerative condition of that area of the body prior to signing his last NRL contract"

one for the lawyers.

[fletch]

If that is it for Friendy he has earned his place in Roosters history, have a lot of respect for a guy who turned his life around after being sacked by the club a lot of guys never take advantage of a second chance that is handed too them.

One thing you could never question with Friendy is that he always put his body on the line for this club every time he put the red/white/blue jumper.

[Johnny Tobin]

If that is it for Friendy he has earned his place in Roosters history, have a lot of respect for a guy who turned his life around after being sacked by the club a lot of guys never take advantage of a second chance that is handed too them.

One thing you could never question with Friendy is that he always put his body on the line for this club every time he put the red/white/blue jumper.

He’ll be missed for sure. Especially this season.

[OMR]

Whatever he decides as long as he’s in good health and will be remembered as a true roosters legend

[King Salvo]

The NRL needs to approve Medical retirements and on that basis they will decide whether or how much of any payment made by the club or the insurer is exempt from the cap. The NRL's decision on medical retirements is independent of what decision on any claim the insurer makes - The Insurer may decline the claim although the NRL has approved the medical retirement.

Exact NRL criteria for medical retirement:

"Player had no similar injury or medical condition to that area of the body that either has or could reasonably be predicted medically to lead to a degenerative condition of that area of the body prior to signing his last NRL contract"

If Jake does retire he would better suited to take up an off field role in 2022.

NRL contracts run from Nov 1 to October 31

The Greg Inglis case was an interesting one as he retired himself and was not medically retired by the NRL - later on though the NRL decided to treat it the same way as medical retirement

So his wage from 1st November until his retirement was included in the cap - $500K.

Inglis allegedly forfeited any payment for the remainder of that years contract($500K -2019) and the following year (2020) his last ($ 1 million) on the basis of taking up a paid off field role with the Vermin/NRL instead.

The salary of this off field role would be included in the cap though for both 2019 and 2020.

The difference Between the remaining Contract payment (2019) not included in the cap less his off field role payment which would be included in the cap was reportedly $300k that the Vermin would be able to use before June 30 of 2019.

The following year i recall only $100k for Inglis's off field role would be included in the cap - so his 2020 1 million contract not included in the cap less 100k for his off field role that would be included in the cap gave the vermin 900k to spend and we all know who that was spent on or a fair amount of it for the 2020 season.

[stringaz]

Not a good way for it to end but the champion has achieved so much. We will definitely take some time to adjust to playing without him, he is so good for us defensively. But if the writing is on the wall for his heatlh then a good idea to prioritize whats important in his family and future.

All the best champion, A Roosters Legend.

[milanja]

Be interesting if the head knock is classed as a pre existing condition, because almost every player in the NRL will at some stage miss a game due to concussion, does it matter how many concussions you have? Is there a magic number?

this is going to get very messy for the game.

[King Salvo]

maybe not the time to talk about it but this from nrl physio suggests it might be tricky -

Exact NRL criteria for medical retirement: "Player had no similar injury or medical condition to that area of the body that either has or could reasonably be predicted medically to lead to a degenerative condition of that area of the body prior to signing his last NRL contract"

one for the lawyers.

Also for the NRL/Insurers/Clubs

With knees/ankles/shoulders etc there would be scans etc for the NRL to approve or not approve a medical retirement based on their criteria and the insurer to argue the degenerative condition of that area of the body over time etc case in not paying the claim.

With the effects of concussions that is not known for who knows how many years (i.e dementia/alzhemiers/parkinsons etc) and in the case of CTE only post mortem.

If NRL approve medical retirements for concussions are they leaving themselves open to litigation down the track as clubs maybe as well from players as 3 players have taken legal action against their former clubs - James McManus - Newcastle Knights - Brett Horsnell - Parramatta - John Higgins-Roosters over concussions - not sure where these are up to - but could well be what they call landmark decisions if these players are successful.

Also what would such decisions have on Insurers for future insurance policies for contact sports in the future??- the act of god clause for insurers to wriggle out of paying for claims for adverse weather and various disasters- will they cover or not cover concussion claims?

The NRL with this token 18th man emerging playing policy which is only activated if 3 of their team mates are ruled out of a match for failing a HIA is not addressing what is a serious issue in the game and will continue to be so.

[Bondicigar]

Unlucky to play in the same position in the same era as the best player ever to strap a boot.
Still a great career even without all the rep rewards

[Thirteen]

No. I refuse to believe this. Nothing is confirmed yet.

[zac]

Also for the NRL/Insurers/Clubs

With knees/ankles/shoulders etc there would be scans etc for the NRL to approve or not approve a medical retirement based on their criteria and the insurer to argue the degenerative condition of that area of the body over time etc case in not paying the claim.

With the effects of concussions that is not known for who knows how many years (i.e dementia/alzhemiers/parkinsons etc) and in the case of CTE only post mortem.

If NRL approve medical retirements for concussions are they leaving themselves open to litigation down the track as clubs maybe as well from players as 3 players have taken legal action against their former clubs - James McManus - Newcastle Knights - Brett Horsnell - Parramatta - John Higgins-Roosters over concussions - not sure where these are up to - but could well be what they call landmark decisions if these players are successful.

Also what would such decisions have on Insurers for future insurance policies for contact sports in the future??- the act of god clause for insurers to wriggle out of paying for claims for adverse weather and various disasters- will they cover or not cover concussion claims?

The NRL with this token 18th man emerging playing policy which is only activated if 3 of their team mates are ruled out of a match for failing a HIA is not addressing what is a serious issue in the game and will continue to be so.

you'd think if the nrl don't approve medical retirements for concussions they're leaving themselves open to be sued.

but yes, if they do approve them then insurance fees will rise

[SupermanSupportsEasts4Eva]

I've just read a couple of articles regarding Jake and its just hit home that we possibly could have already seen the last of Friendy in the Red White and Blue. I can't belive it. If feel that Jake's legacy and the hole he will leave in our line up will only be felt when he is no longer there. One of the greatest to play for the greastest RL club ever.