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  • Originally posted by roosterproud View Post
    i wonder that if souffs are having to pay out inglass contract. he said last night on the news he was looking at returning to league. if so since the laughing stock medically retired him do they now have to pay out that contract or do they get hit with a salary cap breach for that season. i cant find any laws regarding this form of release. maybe thats why the dont need saulli
    Inglis has signed to play with Warrington in the Super League next year. Technically he was not medically retired, the NRL just treated his sudden retirement as an 'unique case' where the result was similar to what happens when someone is medically retired. So yes, very suss and typical of souths to get away with but technically he was not medically retired by the rule book.

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    • Originally posted by ChookMaster View Post

      A couple of whispers going around and also weidler brought it up this morning on the radio. We have Sitili who’s due for a extension and Angus who’s on big coin but will have to sacrifice $$ in order to stay but if a club comes knocking with a better offer we will have our hands tied
      Let's analyse exactly what Wiedler said:
      1) "Angus is on big money next year. He knows the year after he’s going to have to cop a pay cut". Note the language "big money next year" which probably means Angus is on a back-ended contract, and will earn more than what he is worth in the final year of that contract.

      2) "He doesn’t want to leave but clubs may start coming and chasing him pretty hard". No sh1t Sherlock.

      There is no story. Wiedler just using word games to drum up yet another fake news story.


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      • No sure about the age thing either - sure players might be slower and more injury prone but what changes is their focus.

        When starting out and establishing themselves players are 100% focused and this is reflected in their efforts. When other things come in to their lives - partners and kids - their focus is less on football.

        So if the going gets tough the focus and effort may not be the same as it once was given these changes in their lives.- football becomes less important and one day they wake up and decide they don't want to do this anymore
        Last edited by King Salvo; 10-28-2020, 06:57 PM.

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        • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
          No sure about the age thing either - sure players might be slower and more injury prone but what changes is their focus.

          When starting out and establishing themselves players are 100% focused and this is reflected in their efforts. When other things come in to their lives - partners and kids - their focus is less on football.

          So if the going gets tough the focus and effort may not be the same as it once was given these changes in their lives.- football becomes less important and one day they wake up and decide they don't want to do this anymore
          BS, when they are young alot are lunatics running around getting up to all sorts of crap.
          When they get families they settle and are more focused.
          The Internet is a place for posting silly things
          Try and be serious and you will look stupid
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          • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
            No sure about the age thing either - sure players might be slower and more injury prone but what changes is their focus.

            When starting out and establishing themselves players are 100% focused and this is reflected in their efforts. When other things come in to their lives - partners and kids - their focus is less on football.

            So if the going gets tough the focus and effort may not be the same as it once was given these changes in their lives.- football becomes less important and one day they wake up and decide they don't want to do this anymore
            Ah yes, young nrl players, renowned for being 100% focused on footy.

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            • Originally posted by Moose View Post

              Ah yes, young nrl players, renowned for being 100% focused on footy.
              They were 100% focused on school girls this pre season not their school work

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              • Uncle Nic should offer what we can afford NOW and tell the kid "if you want to be developed by the best and to have success join the Roosters".
                or stay where you are and be medically retired at 25
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                • I am not too sure about this signing... Smells like a classic up yours from uncle nick to souths he is trying to get one back on them but i am weary about the consequences of this deal. I called it early.. could be more bad then good.

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                  • Originally posted by ChookMaster View Post
                    I am not too sure about this signing... Smells like a classic up yours from uncle nick to souths he is trying to get one back on them but i am weary about the consequences of this deal. I called it early.. could be more bad then good.
                    I think Suaalii will turn out alright whoever he plays for.

                    However, being weary of the Roosters signing a former rabbits player and possibly paying too much could also be seen in Angus Crichton, who we possibly paid overs and are now feeling the heat
                    ..it’ll be interesting to see

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                    • Wtf are we thinking - allowing the kid to have get out clauses in his contract. This all seems really weird to me.... We have one of the best backrowers in the comp and a future captain who we need to retain, but are chasing this kid with get out clauses in his contract??

                      https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...0737bf019c83f8

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                      • Roosters bring in SBW to pitch Suaalii on blockbuster move as secret contract clause revealed

                        The Sydney Roosters have rolled out the big guns in the club’s pursuit of teenage superstar Joseph Suaalii with dual international Sonny Bill Williams speaking to the young gun.


                        Williams, Roosters coach Trent Robinson and head of football Daniel Anderson have all sold the glamour Bondi club’s pitch as the Tricolours narrow in on landing the teenager.

                        The Roosters are also willing to allow the teenager to have get out clauses in the deal if he signs – a stipulation South Sydney were not willing to budge on.

                        Suaalii remains signed on a development contract with South Sydney for next season but the Rabbitohs have given him permission to negotiate with rival NRL clubs for 2022 and beyond.

                        The Bunnies intend to stand firm on not releasing the 17-year-old next year – for now – with arch rival foundation club the Roosters in the box seat to sign Suaalii.

                        Fox Sports has been told the young gun and his parents have personally spoken to Williams, coach Robinson and Anderson about the Roosters plans for the teenager.

                        Williams famously won a competition with the Roosters in Robinson’s first season as coach in 2013 when the club built the great wall of Bondi defensively.

                        The dual international also enjoyed a decorated career playing rugby union, notching 58 Test matches for the All Blacks and winning two World Cups in 2011 and 2015.

                        Williams returned to the Sydney Roosters for a cameo this year after his two-year deal with Toronto Wolfpack went pear-shaped during the COVID shutdown of the UK Super League.
                        Williams remains a hugely respected member of the NRL.

                        Young gun Suaalii is expected to make a call on his future in the coming month.

                        The Wests Tigers also pushed to lodge a bid with the teenager but the Roosters is clearly Suaalii’s preferred destination.

                        Rugby Australia and the Wallabies were also hellbent on trying to sign the teenager and have thrown their hat in the ring for most of this year.

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                        • Originally posted by Sizzle View Post
                          Wtf are we thinking - allowing the kid to have get out clauses in his contract. This all seems really weird to me.... We have one of the best backrowers in the comp and a future captain who we need to retain, but are chasing this kid with get out clauses in his contract??

                          https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...0737bf019c83f8

                          Because Hooper wrote it it must be true.

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                          • How did South Sydney let Joseph Suaalii slip through their fingers?
                            For the past few years, South Sydney chief executive Blake Solly has considered himself so good at his job he reckons he should be running the NRL.

                            As it stands, he’s the club boss who’s about to let Joseph Suaalii – a once-in-a-generation teenage footballing sensation — slip through his fingers.


                            And not to a rival code but most likely to arch-rivals the Roosters. Talk about a knock-on with the line wide open.

                            Souths have been throwing money at this kid since he was, well, a kid, including a revised $2.5m offer to secure him beyond next year when his development contract with the club expires.

                            They wooed him and his mum at Russell Crowe’s farm, asked the NRL to bend the rules so he could play next season even though he’s only 17, and also played dirty pool by throwing out bogus figures about what Rugby Australia was offering him.

                            Souths still didn’t get their man. If you're a Rabbitohs member you have every right to ask ... how?

                            Until recently, Suaalii’s name featured prominently on a whiteboard at Redfern Oval.
                            The whiteboard belonged to former football boss Shane Richardson and provided a preview of South Sydney’s future squad goals for years to come.


                            Because of the very nature of the salary cap, the smart clubs work years in advance when securing their talent long-term.
                            Nobody in rugby league should ever write anything in permanent marker but Suaalii has long been considered Souths’ fullback from 2022 onwards.

                            Even the surprise signing of Latrell Mitchell didn’t shake the Rabbitohs from that belief.
                            It’s one of the reasons Mitchell was only signed on a one-year deal with the option for a second in the club's favour.


                            Why Suaalii went cold on Souths isn’t entirely clear, but it was a sure sign he wasn’t serious when he asked for a five-year deal with get-out clauses.
                            We’ve been told the Suaalii family felt it was being played by colourful art dealer and Souths tragic Steve Nasteski, who has been shopping the poor kid all over the place in recent months.
                            Solly thought he had the inside run to Suaalii because he’s close to the cashed-up Nasteski, but things turned dramatically earlier this month when the teenager’s family reached out to the Roosters.
                            The Roosters denied the interest when it was first revealed in the Herald and remain cagey about the issue.
                            They're awaiting a release from Souths before signing Suaalii on a development contract. After that, they'll sign him on an NRL contract but the first year will be at minimum wage of a likely three-year deal because it's no secret the club is feeling salary cap pressure.

                            The Roosters remain hopeful, though, they won’t have to shed players, or pay players like Angus Crichton less, to secure Suaalii.
                            Both the Wests Tigers and the Broncos have also been sniffing around the teenager, but he wants to join the Roosters because he's a fan of the likes of James Tedesco and Luke Keary, and respects coach Trent Robinson.

                            It's also no surprise that the Suaalii family, which does charity work in the Penrith region, became interested in the Roosters at the same time The Australian's investigation into the alleged shenanigans of former captain Sam Burgess came to light.
                            Which brings us back to Solly, who considers himself a future boss of the NRL if his constant sniping in chief executive meetings about how the game has been run is any indication.

                            We wait with interest to see what the NRL integrity unit uncovers in relation to Phoebe Burgess’ concerning allegations about her former husband. Who knew what at Souths?
                            It was rather worrying how Solly, who has since denied any knowledge of the allegations, ran for cover after The Australian’s yarn dropped.
                            A strong chief executive would’ve fronted a media conference and answered some hard questions. I mean, all this apparently happened on his watch.
                            Instead, Solly jammed out a statement and then provided some prosaic remarks to News Corp.
                            The culture of silence at Souths around Burgess is indicative of Solly’s media strategy.


                            He’s been pushing at CEO meetings for less access to players.
                            Earlier this year, the club tried to cancel at the last minute a Herald interview with Cody Walker for Indigenous Round. To Walker’s credit, he stuck solid and told a beautiful story about how his sons helped him reconnect with his culture.
                            Solly has also floated the idea of denying broadcasters Nine (which publishes this masthead) and Fox Sports access to the dressing-room after matches so they can’t show the singing of the team song.
                            That “content”, Solly has argued to the NRL, belongs to the club.


                            It actually belongs to the players. To the fans. To the game. And never mind the hundreds of millions of dollars the broadcasters tip into the game.
                            So perhaps Solly and others at Souths should concentrate on the things that really matter — like securing a player like Joseph Suaalii.

                            LOL@SOUFFS

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                            • Originally posted by ChookMaster View Post
                              They wooed him and his mum at Russell Crowe’s farm,
                              No wonder he wants to go to a respectable and successful club like the Roosters - good on him!

                              "Do you expect me to talk"? "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die".

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                              • I find it hard to believe any of this media speculation. There is no way the club would allow him get out clauses in his contract, or risk losing Gus. Sounds very unroosters like!
                                Red, White and Bluesters!!!

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