50 point loss superstition

[player 1]

What a load of bullcrap that roosters have to "overcome 112 years of history" to win the comp.

People usually aren't smart enough to know the difference between an association and a cause/effect relationship.

Generally yes teams who concede 50 points in a game have associated problems/weaknesses that make them unlikely to be premiers. But the scoreline alone doesn't magically curse them to be unable to be premiers.

Before last Friday our points differential was unmatched. I have no doubt our players were instructed not to bust a gut in a dead rubber. Obviously the inflated scoreline was ugly and compounded by Souffs being very good and quite lucky with many of their 10 tries coming on the back of the 12-2 penalty/restart advantage they enjoyed that fatigued our players (following a 9-1 6 again count the previous week that forced us to tackle all second half against sharks

A more accurate predictor might be how many top 4 sides ,who have lost a dead rubber in the last round by 52 points in a season shortened by covid, with a new 6 again rule introduced after the season's commencement, have then gone on to win a premiership. Well of course the answer is none, because none of these things have ever happened before.

Piss off with your dumb superstitions.

The Souffs scoreline won't stop us getting the 3 peat. But I agree with other posters that another 12-2 penalty/restart count may be insurmountable.

[roostermcgregor]

This dumb superstition myth is something that Gould spruiks on about on Channel Nine, which helps justify his view to the stupid , average RL follower or punter.
Gould is a lot smarter than that - what is actually coming out of his mouth is that he doesn't believe we are a chance, because he knows we will get smashed 12-2 in the penalties and restarts every game,
That makes it impossible for us to win the competition.
Here's one for Gould, NRL chief Abdo, Cummins and Sutton- why don't you instruct the referee on Friday night to go out and give the Roosters a 12-2 advantage in the set restarts/ penalties?.
Then you can call your precious Penrith side (who have won 15 games in a row) truly the RL champions and the best there is. They are unbeatable on current form
Cumon Abdo , Cumon Gould, Cumon Cummins, Cumon Sutton - make it happen - show us what you are made of !!!!.
I dare you all !!!!.
Sit down together and make it a reality.
There's nothing to be afraid of - Gould has already written the Roosters off as a joke - 60 point losers- so what's the worry?
Then , when Penrith are victorious, you can call yourself the pride of the league-and Penrith worthy NRL champions.

[Bondicigar]

Stats are a record of the past not a prediction of the future

[zac]

What a load of bullcrap that roosters have to "overcome 112 years of history" to win the comp.

People usually aren't smart enough to know the difference between an association and a cause/effect relationship.

Generally yes teams who concede 50 points in a game have associated problems/weaknesses that make them unlikely to be premiers. But the scoreline alone doesn't magically curse them to be unable to be premiers.

Before last Friday our points differential was unmatched. I have no doubt our players were instructed not to bust a gut in a dead rubber. Obviously the inflated scoreline was ugly and compounded by Souffs being very good and quite lucky with many of their 10 tries coming on the back of the 12-2 penalty/restart advantage they enjoyed that fatigued our players (following a 9-1 6 again count the previous week that forced us to tackle all second half against sharks

A more accurate predictor might be how many top 4 sides ,who have lost a dead rubber in the last round by 52 points in a season shortened by covid, with a new 6 again rule introduced after the season's commencement, have then gone on to win a premiership. Well of course the answer is none, because none of these things have ever happened before.

Piss off with your dumb superstitions.

The Souffs scoreline won't stop us getting the 3 peat. But I agree with other posters that another 12-2 penalty/restart count may be insurmountable.

i hear you brother.

lies, damned lies, statistics and - superstitions.

When you're talking about a more accurate predictor you might want to add the b2b track record too. experience helps to use adversity to your advantage.

interesting to see how gus sees it on friday. he's cluey but he's also emotional and goes with his gut. no doubt he'll tip penrith but a little voice in his head will be saying that you can't write the roosters off.

[NorfolkStreetKid]

The 50 point loss theory is a stupid premise because it doesn't take into account the make up of the team on that day. We had 5 players out , if you include Friend, and therefore a 3 man bench from the 3rd minute, compared to our likely Grand final team if we make it. We played a full strength Souths team, they lost nothing having Allen at fullback, they got every bounce and we made 150 MORE TACKLES, THEY GOT 6 TO 1 RESTARTS AND 6 TO 1 PENALTIES, it was a perfect storm for them.

[Mad_Rabid_Rooster]

I tend to ignore these things at the best of times, let alone during a pandemic when we are witnessing one of the most unusual and most unprecedented seasons in history. Everything, in theory at least, should go out the window.

All I want to see is us given a fair rub of the green - that will be a true test and indication of where we are sitting. Lopsided penalty counts and six again calls are a blight on the game. Something needs to be done. I would like to see a better outcome in that regard this week.

[Johnny73]

I'm pretty sure that in a vast majority of games, if the Roosters win the penalty count they win the game.

[morley101]

In 2010 we lost to Canterbury by 50 and still got to the Grand Final and this team is superior.

[Half time]

I don’t follow stats but if the experts are saying that no team has won a comp after conceding 50 points in a game, does that mean that a team has won the comp after conceding 49 points?

[ism22]

It's bollocks and basically reflects that in a NORMAL year under the pre-2020 rules, nobody loses by 50 except absolute deadbeats.

All this myth demonstrates is how shyte the new rules are + what impact awarding 12-1 penalties against a team (considering '6 again' with 20 seconds provides no advantage) can have against the team on the whipping end of it.

Like with the cricket, I can't say I care about the obscure states they rattle out over the course of a long day. No team ranked lower than 4th has won... so I guess Souffs and Faders are no home? Also, no father and son combo has ever won... bye bye Pemriff. Finally, no 37 year old captain has won... bye bye Drizz. We're all doomed, it seems.

'You wanna write us up, cuz?' - SBW

[Larry Long Balls]

The superstition or statistic is nothing but rubbish. However, the fact that our team was bent over and reamed by Souffs last Friday will be a much bigger obstacle to overcome.

[ism22]

The superstition or statistic is nothing but rubbish. However, the fact that our team was bent over and reamed by Souffs last Friday will be a much bigger obstacle to overcome.

Meh... 3 days off training, 4 players rested, 12-1 penalty count and Jake injured in the first 10.

It's a clean slate next week and frankly, I don't think last week's result has anything to do with our game against Penrith.

[Hawkeye]

We are up against it, in the entire history of rugby league no team has ever defended their title during a pandemic season.
Cant deny that fact !

[zac]

We are up against it, in the entire history of rugby league no team has ever defended their title during a pandemic season.
Cant deny that fact !

not entirely true as it happens. tigers won 1919 and 1920. what chance has anyone else got?!

[King Salvo]

One has to see where teams finish if beaten by 50 or more in a game during the year- not many of them would have finished top 4 i suggest