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  • #16
    Do people listen and understand that Boyd may not have been concussed on the weekend. Robbo said he stayed down more to do with the winding that a head knock. While he did hit his head causing the Dr wanting to assess him. Its my understanding this decision to rest him for the rest of the game was just as much a decision based on emotional state as much as a possible concussion. I think I actually heard that he passed the HIA. Dr Tom is fantastic and at all times his decisions are correct and based on player welfare
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    • #17
      Apparently, Mini came out today and suggested that Boyd should retire immediately. Is that right?

      I am concerned for him as much as the next person, but I trust the judgement of the club and the player concerned as to what is best for his welfare.

      Rather than retire completely, I wouldn't be adverse to the idea of him retiring from representative football. That would be a sensible course of action, and would certainly buy more time to work out a medium to long term solution.
      MRR or Rabid

      Some people believe supporting the Roosters
      is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed
      with that attitude. I can assure you it is
      much, much more important than that.


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      • #18
        Originally posted by Kingbilly View Post
        Do people listen and understand that Boyd may not have been concussed on the weekend. Robbo said he stayed down more to do with the winding that a head knock. While he did hit his head causing the Dr wanting to assess him. Its my understanding this decision to rest him for the rest of the game was just as much a decision based on emotional state as much as a possible concussion. I think I actually heard that he passed the HIA. Dr Tom is fantastic and at all times his decisions are correct and based on player welfare
        I totally agree with what you've said. I also think Cords was more stunned than concussed.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by roosterchook View Post

          You’re right. I shouldn’t have taken any notice of Fulton. Yes so I did. Thanks for that I’ll fix it but it’s my first heading error and it doesn’t seem to allow me to edit it Any advice?
          Dont be too hard on yourself. Its only a spelling mistake

          This is from a selfish roosters supporter.
          I'd be happy to see him retire from rep footy to prolong his club career...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
            Id replace him with Bryce Cartwright.
            You've had too many head knocks

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            • #21
              Originally posted by keggs1 View Post
              Some rubbish takes in this thread and it appears the naivety towards head injuries will be around a while yet.

              I would like to make this clear: head injuries (concussion, brain trauma etc) are EXTREMELY dangerous. The short term effects are relatively well known, but little research has been conclusive on the long term effects.

              What IS known, is that continuous head injuries sustained across any period of time will lead to severe degradation of the brain and complications later in life. I am not an expert in the field but I have read plenty of peer reviewed journal articles by those that are.

              This is a serious issue and the health of people like Cordner and Keary absolutely need to come first. I am proud of the cautious manner in which Robbo and the rest of the coaching staff have taken in regards to resting players for multiple weeks at a time etc; but at some point absolutely, someone may need to sit down with Boyd and tell him that if he wants to live a long and healthy life he is more likely to do so if he retires sooner rather than later.


              Kinda odd isn't it to say that we don't know any of the long term effects of head knocks in one sentence then immediately state that they definitely cause brain degradation in the next, isn't it?

              Personally I think the CTE issue is massively overblown. It all stems from US sports with their litigious nature. They find a few hundred ex-NFL players with medical problems - all of them massive drug abusers and mental problems - and then chalk it all up to CTE from head knocks. The brain studies they've done are also self selecting, as the only people who want to donate their brains are the ones who have issues. None of the tens of thouands of perfectly healthy ex-players are interested in donating their brain to science. Its a skewed group.

              Similarly in the NRL and league in general we have tens of thousands of former players in Australia. How many are we aware of who have major issues that also suffered concussions? A couple percent of that group? How does that compare to the general population?

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              • #22
                Danish,
                look at it this wasy. if you repeatedly injury your knnee then when you get older you knee is cactus.
                The same for your brain, if youi keep injuring it then there will be effects later on.

                The way to minimise both these situations is to make sure that the injury is healed properly.
                In the past brain injuries were not "injurieas" and naturally not allowed to heal properly.

                There is nothing overblown about the long term effects of concussion if its not treated correctly
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Danish View Post



                  Kinda odd isn't it to say that we don't know any of the long term effects of head knocks in one sentence then immediately state that they definitely cause brain degradation in the next, isn't it?

                  Personally I think the CTE issue is massively overblown. It all stems from US sports with their litigious nature. They find a few hundred ex-NFL players with medical problems - all of them massive drug abusers and mental problems - and then chalk it all up to CTE from head knocks. The brain studies they've done are also self selecting, as the only people who want to donate their brains are the ones who have issues. None of the tens of thouands of perfectly healthy ex-players are interested in donating their brain to science. Its a skewed group.

                  Similarly in the NRL and league in general we have tens of thousands of former players in Australia. How many are we aware of who have major issues that also suffered concussions? A couple percent of that group? How does that compare to the general population?
                  Suggest you do some reading on the subject if you really believe all that. Concussion and CTE in NFL is real and pretty scary. To put it down to some ex players trying to scam a few bucks out of it is very wide of the mark.

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                  • #24
                    A boxer can suffer a bad knock out and there are calls for him to retire. Is it the knock out blow or the thousand blows preparing and sparring 100 rounds to prepare for a fight. I think they all add up and every hard collision can cause some damage...

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                    • #25
                      I think the big problem with Boyd is he just wants to play footy. Massive footy head. He will have to make some tough calls. Probably starting with rep footy, but I 100% see why it might take him some time.
                      He just wants to play.
                      I’m not gonna delve in to the science behind it. I think when he makes the decision it will be the right one.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post

                        Sarcasm champ
                        ah good then Im gonna rally to sign him then ....who would of ever thought Kim Jon would be a rooster ! So is Trump.
                        Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

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                        • #27
                          What about Sione Matautia? That’s a bloke who shouldn’t be playing
                          ..it’ll be interesting to see

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                          • #28
                            Boyd ruled out for tomorrow night's game.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
                              Boyd ruled out for tomorrow night's game.
                              Do it for Boyd. Look out comp
                              ..it’ll be interesting to see

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by The Skeez View Post
                                What about Sione Matautia? That’s a bloke who shouldn’t be playing
                                Absolutely.

                                Cops a head knock every month it feels like.

                                Where's the media campaign for Sione to medically retire?

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