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  • #16
    Originally posted by ism22 View Post
    I know two ladies (both specialist doctors) in their early 30's who made a pact to sign up as Roosters members and go to lotsa games together. Both cancelled their respective memberships following negative publicity.

    While all of my family members are still signed up, I can't lie... had some of the shyte that has just gone on involved us then I'd be questioning why I'm paying $$$ and encouraging my wife/kids to support a bunch of douchebags.

    While these are just anecdotes, take a look at the media. Feminism is massive, #MeToo stuff is still going and large organisations care more about diversity because it's not just women that this BS scares away... father like me don't wanna take their sons to games if they're gonna be cheering for douchebags who don't treat women properly.

    Gone are the days of boys being boys. Back in the day, things like what Bolton and Fergo did wouldn't have led to criminal charges being laid because they'd be deemed to be way too minor. The bar for arrest/conviction are really low and there's cameras EVERYWHERE, so there's way more situations where the facts can't be hidden.

    Not saying I agree with everything within the current paradigm. For example I think we're all innocent until proven guilty and assumptions of guilt just because somebody posted a lame hashtag on social media are complete bollocks. But... there's no doubt there's elements of the game (and those who play it) that can get farked.

    All that said, IMO the NRL needs to respect its own players better and get behind them. NRL players are very attractive to most women, people do legitimately chase them and there's enough false allegations out there that it's a fair call to say that (like many celebrities), people try to bring them down over things like jealousy. SKD got within inches of jumping off the gap and IMO there's a broader issue... welfare and proper treatment. Ben Barba has now handed himself into police and actively asked them to charge him based on the CCTV footage. Assault doesn't require a complaint y'know!!! All he's been charged with is public nuisance. It makes you wonder whether making an example of de Belin, Barba and was the right thing to do. In my mind it's entirely possible that all 3 get off, de Belin is successful with his court matter and Greent*rd looks like a fukking idiot for spending/sacking a heap of innocent men while letting a bunch of drink/drug drivers and the like play with VERY soft suspensions. Just saying...
    Those couple of quacks probably signed up just to lodge their protest and cancel their memberships.

    Impulsive things by the sounds...hope they aren't as quick to diagnose an illness.

    It is the age of the "outraged"...we're not gonna take it anymore!!


    I]SBW at the beach .[/I]

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    • #17
      As a lifetime female footy fan, I have to admit that the actions of a minority of players this off-season has left me extremely frustrated and angry at those idiots who have bought shame on the game I have loved all my life. Especially where they involve the alleged mistreatment of women, which is inexcusable.

      I totally support the NRL's no fault stand down policy, because quite frankly, the game cannot afford to have those players charged with serious offences running out on the park every week. Sponsors involved with the game don't want their brand associated with them in any way shape or form. These blokes signed a contract with very specific behavioural clauses which they have broken and they need to take responsibility for that. In fact I reckon they should be thankful that they are being paid while they are stood down.

      Having worked as a legal PA for over 30 years I do understand the significance of innocent until proven guilty, but at the same time, the game has to protect itself from these the damage these players will do to the game if they allowed to take the field before their court cases are concluded. In my opinion those players should be concentrating on getting their cases through the court system as quickly as possible, rather than playing a game of footy each week.

      I do not want to see any player charged with a serious offence take the field - to me it's a message that the NRL believes the actions that lead to the allegations made against them are acceptable. I don't believe they are, and thankfully those in charge of the NRL think the same.

      Jack DeBelin is claiming potential loss of earnings and sponsorship by being stood down. If I were the NRL I would be putting in a counter claim for the loss of earnings and potential sponsorships his sleazy night out has cost the game, because I'm telling you that that amount would far outweigh any amount DeBelin would be entitled to!

      I'm not asking any more of a NRL player than I would anyone else - do not disrespect or abuse anyone, do not film anyone without their knowledge and share that footage on social media, do not assault anyone, male or female, don't get pissed and get behind the wheel. In fact, do not harm yourself or anyone else - is that too hard??

      NRL players are given more education on the perils of drugs and alcohol, social media and the expected treatment women than most others in the community, so the NRL and the clubs are doing their bit. But some of the players are just not listening, and believe they are above those rules and are paying an end price for it. And so they should.

      Unfortunately, in this modern society of phones, computers and social media, all sportsmen need to be extremely careful to ensure they are not caught up in a situation that may damage their career. And if they are not prepared to do that, perhaps they need to think about a career change. The old days of players being able to act up off the field and get away with it are long gone, and it's no use wishing they were still here. Guys like Fittler and Johns can thank their lucky stars they played in the era they did.

      I always have been and always will be a Chooks fan. But I would not love the Chooks if I did not love the game itself. And protection of the game and its reputation is far and away more important to me than the protection of any individual that has the privilege to play it, especially if they have abused that privilege.

      By and large NRL players are a credit to their clubs, the game, its supporters and society in general. But there will always be a few bad apples, and they need to be dealt with severely, so others don't follow their lead.

      I'll be there tomorrow night to cheer on the Chooks against the Filthy Vermin. And I'm hoping my fellow female supporters will be joining me. But I do understand if some may be having second thoughts. By and large though, I reckon most rusted on female fans will embrace the start of the season like I am. It is the casual/new female footy fan and wavering mum the game is trying to attract who may be the casualty of the off season from hell. And those in NRL HQ know it.


      Roll on Season 2017 ...

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      • #18
        I'm gonna quote Benny on this one, "bunch of drama queens".

        About half a dozen players out of 480 contracted NRL players get in trouble for violence against women, which is 1.25%, and all of a sudden men and women far and wide go on a bra burning tirade of disowning the game.

        Have some perspective FFS.

        Btw, by my count those figures mean that 98.75% of players have been doing the right thing by women. Any media publicity for them? For every Ben Barba there's 80 blokes doing the right thing - including legends like JWH. And yet so many choose to let the Barba's define their feelings towards the game rather than the overwhelming majority of good men. It's just downright strange imo.

        If I'm a teacher and I have a class of 35 kids and 1 of them is bad, I don't disown the 34 who are doing great. Again, that's just a curiously bizarre outlook.

        But hey, that's outrage psyche for ya.
        Last edited by Tommy Smith; 03-14-2019, 05:22 PM.

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        • #19
          Lara Pitts comments on league life last night on the NRL taking a stance to make sure "this stuff will never happen again" is a bit of a pipedream and another stretch of the gender equality garbage. There will always be a minority of fools in any faction.

          I'm not a fan of greenburg but he said there will always be some risk, how can they wrangle 500 young blokes into keeping their nose clean all the time? There can't be a safe space for everyone all the time in this world im afarid.
          "I don't think anything I've ever done is wrong" - Homer J Simpson

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Thirteen View Post
            I want women at games. I donít want to be surrounded by ugly bogan drunken blokes.
            at times the old chookpen resembled this?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
              I'm gonna quote Benny on this one, "bunch of drama queens".

              About half a dozen players out of 480 contracted NRL players get in trouble for violence against women, which is 1.25%, and all of a sudden men and women far and wide go on a bra burning tirade of disowning the game.

              Have some perspective FFS.

              Btw, by my count those figures mean that 98.75% of players have been doing the right thing by women. Any media publicity for them? For every Ben Barba there's 80 blokes doing the right thing - including legends like JWH. And yet so many choose to let the Barba's define their feelings towards the game rather than the overwhelming majority of good men. It's just downright strange imo.

              If I'm a teacher and I have a class of 35 kids and 1 of them is bad, I don't disown the 34 who are doing great. Again, that's just a curiously bizarre outlook.

              But hey, that's outrage psyche for ya.
              I think Bennet's point is worth making. Not exonerating the players and they've got to realise that in today's climate they must never do anything wrong and when they do they must never get caught.
              Also media and League leadership should point out the privacy issue. Sure, serious offences need to be put under the microscope, but legal naughtiness shouldn't be given any air by the media, and should be put into proper perspective by leadership.

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              • #22
                So the grandmother of the Sharks membership council says that their low membership of women is down due to these scandals? Unless she has spoken to every single woman who has not renewed, even though it doesn't say anything about renewing nor dropping out, then how can she claim that the lack of women memberships is attributed to the scandals? What about the other issues with the Sharks? There is an A-Z list of problems with them. Women love their footy, probably not as many as men, but they love to barrack their team and any big scandals would concern all members, women and men alike. The NRL have tother issues that would cause people to leave the game like the referees and bunker. How is that not a factor in women AND men leaving the game? The ABC is rubbish! They support AFL anyway.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by novice chook View Post
                  As a lifetime female footy fan, I have to admit that the actions of a minority of players this off-season has left me extremely frustrated and angry at those idiots who have bought shame on the game I have loved all my life. Especially where they involve the alleged mistreatment of women, which is inexcusable.

                  I totally support the NRL's no fault stand down policy, because quite frankly, the game cannot afford to have those players charged with serious offences running out on the park every week. Sponsors involved with the game don't want their brand associated with them in any way shape or form. These blokes signed a contract with very specific behavioural clauses which they have broken and they need to take responsibility for that. In fact I reckon they should be thankful that they are being paid while they are stood down.

                  Having worked as a legal PA for over 30 years I do understand the significance of innocent until proven guilty, but at the same time, the game has to protect itself from these the damage these players will do to the game if they allowed to take the field before their court cases are concluded. In my opinion those players should be concentrating on getting their cases through the court system as quickly as possible, rather than playing a game of footy each week.

                  I do not want to see any player charged with a serious offence take the field - to me it's a message that the NRL believes the actions that lead to the allegations made against them are acceptable. I don't believe they are, and thankfully those in charge of the NRL think the same.

                  Jack DeBelin is claiming potential loss of earnings and sponsorship by being stood down. If I were the NRL I would be putting in a counter claim for the loss of earnings and potential sponsorships his sleazy night out has cost the game, because I'm telling you that that amount would far outweigh any amount DeBelin would be entitled to!

                  I'm not asking any more of a NRL player than I would anyone else - do not disrespect or abuse anyone, do not film anyone without their knowledge and share that footage on social media, do not assault anyone, male or female, don't get pissed and get behind the wheel. In fact, do not harm yourself or anyone else - is that too hard??

                  NRL players are given more education on the perils of drugs and alcohol, social media and the expected treatment women than most others in the community, so the NRL and the clubs are doing their bit. But some of the players are just not listening, and believe they are above those rules and are paying an end price for it. And so they should.

                  Unfortunately, in this modern society of phones, computers and social media, all sportsmen need to be extremely careful to ensure they are not caught up in a situation that may damage their career. And if they are not prepared to do that, perhaps they need to think about a career change. The old days of players being able to act up off the field and get away with it are long gone, and it's no use wishing they were still here. Guys like Fittler and Johns can thank their lucky stars they played in the era they did.

                  I always have been and always will be a Chooks fan. But I would not love the Chooks if I did not love the game itself. And protection of the game and its reputation is far and away more important to me than the protection of any individual that has the privilege to play it, especially if they have abused that privilege.

                  By and large NRL players are a credit to their clubs, the game, its supporters and society in general. But there will always be a few bad apples, and they need to be dealt with severely, so others don't follow their lead.

                  I'll be there tomorrow night to cheer on the Chooks against the Filthy Vermin. And I'm hoping my fellow female supporters will be joining me. But I do understand if some may be having second thoughts. By and large though, I reckon most rusted on female fans will embrace the start of the season like I am. It is the casual/new female footy fan and wavering mum the game is trying to attract who may be the casualty of the off season from hell. And those in NRL HQ know it.

                  Good post Novice

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                  • #24
                    The game was better before it was decided that it should be fun for the whole family. That's when we started getting Rugby League Lite.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by novice chook View Post
                      As a lifetime female footy fan, I have to admit that the actions of a minority of players this off-season has left me extremely frustrated and angry at those idiots who have bought shame on the game I have loved all my life. Especially where they involve the alleged mistreatment of women, which is inexcusable.

                      I totally support the NRL's no fault stand down policy, because quite frankly, the game cannot afford to have those players charged with serious offences running out on the park every week. Sponsors involved with the game don't want their brand associated with them in any way shape or form. These blokes signed a contract with very specific behavioural clauses which they have broken and they need to take responsibility for that. In fact I reckon they should be thankful that they are being paid while they are stood down.

                      Having worked as a legal PA for over 30 years I do understand the significance of innocent until proven guilty, but at the same time, the game has to protect itself from these the damage these players will do to the game if they allowed to take the field before their court cases are concluded. In my opinion those players should be concentrating on getting their cases through the court system as quickly as possible, rather than playing a game of footy each week.

                      I do not want to see any player charged with a serious offence take the field - to me it's a message that the NRL believes the actions that lead to the allegations made against them are acceptable. I don't believe they are, and thankfully those in charge of the NRL think the same.

                      Jack DeBelin is claiming potential loss of earnings and sponsorship by being stood down. If I were the NRL I would be putting in a counter claim for the loss of earnings and potential sponsorships his sleazy night out has cost the game, because I'm telling you that that amount would far outweigh any amount DeBelin would be entitled to!

                      I'm not asking any more of a NRL player than I would anyone else - do not disrespect or abuse anyone, do not film anyone without their knowledge and share that footage on social media, do not assault anyone, male or female, don't get pissed and get behind the wheel. In fact, do not harm yourself or anyone else - is that too hard??

                      NRL players are given more education on the perils of drugs and alcohol, social media and the expected treatment women than most others in the community, so the NRL and the clubs are doing their bit. But some of the players are just not listening, and believe they are above those rules and are paying an end price for it. And so they should.

                      Unfortunately, in this modern society of phones, computers and social media, all sportsmen need to be extremely careful to ensure they are not caught up in a situation that may damage their career. And if they are not prepared to do that, perhaps they need to think about a career change. The old days of players being able to act up off the field and get away with it are long gone, and it's no use wishing they were still here. Guys like Fittler and Johns can thank their lucky stars they played in the era they did.

                      I always have been and always will be a Chooks fan. But I would not love the Chooks if I did not love the game itself. And protection of the game and its reputation is far and away more important to me than the protection of any individual that has the privilege to play it, especially if they have abused that privilege.

                      By and large NRL players are a credit to their clubs, the game, its supporters and society in general. But there will always be a few bad apples, and they need to be dealt with severely, so others don't follow their lead.

                      I'll be there tomorrow night to cheer on the Chooks against the Filthy Vermin. And I'm hoping my fellow female supporters will be joining me. But I do understand if some may be having second thoughts. By and large though, I reckon most rusted on female fans will embrace the start of the season like I am. It is the casual/new female footy fan and wavering mum the game is trying to attract who may be the casualty of the off season from hell. And those in NRL HQ know it.

                      Iíll be there supporting as usual NC. Great post by the way. Couldnít agree more.

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                      • #26
                        I dont think the League will ever have alot of female fans. Its a brutal male dominated sport that most women I know or have met are not into. My wife & daughter over the years have attended games with me but only because they didnt have to pay for anything. They would never go off their own bat.
                        "Originally posted by Elvis Rooster"
                        So while most of us were getting excited about the start of the season our resident Junkie Jim the Jailbird, the guy who would like to break into your house and steal your tv and toaster, Mickey Lane is at it again. Here is his latest beauty.
                        ​"Do you want white or wholemeal toast?"
                        I tell you guys this is one sick son of a bitch;

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
                          I dont think the League will ever have alot of female fans. Its a brutal male dominated sport that most women I know or have met are not into. My wife & daughter over the years have attended games with me but only because they didnt have to pay for anything. They would never go off their own bat.
                          Aside from your wife and daughter (all 2 of them), what reasons did most (how many?) women you know or met have for not being into this brutal male dominated sport as you call it?
                          "Do you expect me to talk"? "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die".

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by 007 View Post

                            Aside from your wife and daughter (all 2 of them), what reasons did most (how many?) women you know or met have for not being into this brutal male dominated sport as you call it?
                            The reason that I hear from them is it is to ruff & played by boof heads.
                            "Originally posted by Elvis Rooster"
                            So while most of us were getting excited about the start of the season our resident Junkie Jim the Jailbird, the guy who would like to break into your house and steal your tv and toaster, Mickey Lane is at it again. Here is his latest beauty.
                            ​"Do you want white or wholemeal toast?"
                            I tell you guys this is one sick son of a bitch;

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
                              I dont think the League will ever have alot of female fans. Its a brutal male dominated sport that most women I know or have met are not into. My wife & daughter over the years have attended games with me but only because they didnt have to pay for anything. They would never go off their own bat.
                              Men grew up playing or watching the sport from primary school choosing their teams from there on. They either played it or talked about it with their school mates. Most young girls would only follow it either because of their father or brothers talked about it or because there was some Ďspunkí playing for a team. Their appeal was mostly fleeting. Then there are female fans like NC or MR who really get into the team and like us males follow each moment but proportionally it will always be much much smaller than male fans. My sister for example loves the Roosters and is happy when she knows theyíve won, but ambivalent when they lose. My GF on the other hands doesnít like the sport because their boofheads BUT either of them wonít be talking about the off field drama.

                              Its much like when thereís an incident in your neighbourhood, some people will get involved and will do something about that whilst most wont batter an eyelid because itís got nothing to do with them. So I donít buy this hype that because of all this drama outside of the game, the game will lose many female fans. Most just care what affects them. Not everyone is a social justice warrior out there.

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                              • #30
                                Most people I talk to RL about, don't like some of the crap that goes on but can separate their love of the game or team from the actions of morons.
                                Those two women that cancelled their memberships can go and get effed, left them support some other stupid sport where at least they cover up the player indiscretions
                                The Internet is a place for posting silly things
                                Try and be serious and you will look stupid
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