Wgere are all the BJ bashers?????

[Guest]

I'm sure that in his first few games off the bench, he filled in at second row on the fringe. From memory, he looked quite comfortable there always beating the first man.

As long as his future is in the backrow, i don't mind him finding his feet on the wing or in the centres. Let him grow into his body - he still has 3-4 years to physically mature.

From what i hear, he is very professional when it comes to his body - takes very good care of it. Great to see in such a young player.

I agree, we need to hang onto him long term, i think he will be a great player he just need stability in a position and hopefully next year after 2 years in the top grade he will slot into the centres.
We have a S*** load of backrowers atm.

[Guest]

Wolfman and Perrett are comparable in speed

That sentence sums it up. NFI.

[Guest]

That sentence sums it up. NFI.

Coming from the bloke that thinks Lyon is quick.

Perrett still underrated while you rate some bloke who you think is good because he has a beard.

You have NFI.

[Guest]

Coming from the bloke that thinks Lyon is quick.

Perrett still underrated while you rate some bloke who you think is good because he has a beard.

You have NFI.

Watch tries at 1:00 and 1:20. http://www.nrl.com/rnd-22-sea-eagles...8/default.aspx

Enough said. Maybe we should put Masoe in the centres.

[Guest]

Go and watch SKD's 90 metre effort against Manly last year or the team try from our goal line Perrett scored, they aren't "slow" players.

Big deal Lyon carved up BJ that day he did because he is better not quicker.

As I said in my original post look at the two top teams in the comp their 3/4's are nowhere near the quickest but they are still good players.

[Guest]

I rate Lyon as one of the top 3 centres in the game.

Great footwork, hands and decent accel. Also has a real footballer's brain.

I wouldn't read too much into him carving up a rookie.

[Vasco]

I rate Lyon as one of the top 3 centres in the game.

Great footwork, hands and decent accel. Also has a real footballer's brain.

I wouldn't read too much into him carving up a rookie.

Exactly. The fact that he knows how to get outside his man is a reason why he played rep football.

[Rooster_6]

Regardless of how good Lyon is they were all poor defensive reads. Just because he was up against a good player shouldn't discount that.

[Guest]

Others talking him up is no excuse for you to bag him as you do - to see him for what he is, a solid halfback with the potential to become better, would be much more... intelligent?

So basically, you're saying Pearce is shit, and should be better given his experience?

In typical fashion, you simply assert that Pearce is shit without backing anything up; where are these shit passes and kicks? Rooster_6 posted in another thread Pearce's stats: in a team coming near bottom, he's third for try assists and second for line break assists, or vice-versa. Our points percentages and winning percentages are also significantly greater when Pearce plays.

Now, think about where Pearce would rank if he'd had eager backrowers and threatening centres running at holes all year? Or if he'd had a 5/8 sharing some of the workload? Or hell, maybe this is too much to expect at this club these days... if he'd had a full team putting in as much as he does, as opposed to one or two trying their guts out (of whom BJ is probably one), while the rest couldn't give a fuuck?

Pearce is not my "boy." I just find your incessant bagging of him baseless, boring and idiotic, and then to go and make a thread like this about BJ... well that's just plain hypocritical.

I look forward to the next post of randomly highlighted bits and pieces, baseless assertions and hypocrisy.

I have always said Pearce is a good honest 1st grade halfback, no more no less

On the downside

He is not the next immortal
He is not a matchwinner
He is very poor under pressure
He has an average kicking game
He over plays the inside ball
and his running game is too predictable.


On the plus side

He gives 110% at all times
He gets in and does the dirty stuff
He has ripper of a right to left pass
He can defend
He is only young and can get better

The reason i give it too him is you goons are critical of every other player that stuffs up, but Pearce seems to be exempt, he misses a tackle it was someone elses player, he throws a bad pass, the other bloke should have caught it, he puts in a shit kick, it was poor service blah blah blah.

When you and others can admit he is not perfect, he like every other player does fark up and he alone is responsible for his own actions, i will lay off.

[supermario]

When you and others can admit he is not perfect, he like every other player does fark up and he alone is responsible for his own actions, i will lay off.

The quicker people learn that NO PLAYER is perfect, the better it will be for all.

[Guest]

I have always said Pearce is a good honest 1st grade halfback, no more no less

On the downside

He is not the next immortal
He is not a matchwinner
He is very poor under pressure
He has an average kicking game
He over plays the inside ball
and his running game is too predictable.

Your argument for BJ is that the players around him are shit. Well take that argument, and apply it to your criticisms of Pearce.

He is not the next immortal... I'm not really sure who ever said he was?
He is not a matchwinner... Another random, baseless assertion.
He is very poor under pressure... Not really, he handled the most hyped up Origin series of recent years better than your man Soward.
He has an average kicking game... The biggest weapon we have in the air is Braith Anasta.
He overplays the inside ball... He has two options, hitting impotent Mini on the inside or drunk/talentless Carney/Anasta on the out.
His running game is too predictable... He has no-one running off him.

My point is, you seemed to be pissed off that people defend Pearce by shifting the blame... but that is what you do with BJ, so what's the difference? In fact, I agree about his running game, I think he suffers a bit from a lack of structure in our attack, but yes, his short kicking and passing games could improve - but if you can say BJ's great but for those around him, why can't the same be said for Pearce?

As for me being one of these goons, I've said before that Pearce is a good halfback with the potential to develop further, nothing more... there is no reason to take the extreme view of some who claim he's an immortal by taking the other extreme, and claiming he's crap when he isn't. You claim to always say he's a first grade halfback, but that is bullshit, you bag him incessantly.

[Guest]

I have to agree with PWN and MUZZ. Is that ok to do that??

[Guest]

Your argument for BJ is that the players around him are shit. Well take that argument, and apply it to your criticisms of Pearce.

He is not the next immortal... I'm not really sure who ever said he was? many on here
He is not a matchwinner... Another random, baseless assertion. name me the last match winning play created by Pearce
He is very poor under pressure... Not really, he handled the most hyped up Origin series of recent years better than your man Soward. he handled the hype by playing well in 1 game and ordinary in 2, in fact until " my boy" Soward got involved in game 2 we were struggling"
He has an average kicking game... The biggest weapon we have in the air is Braith Anasta. how many has he put out on the full in recent weeks, how many repeat sets has he got us, i think he has grubbered one ball which resulted in a try and none since.
He overplays the inside ball... He has two options, hitting impotent Mini on the inside or drunk/talentless Carney/Anasta on the out. How about running to the line, with blokes like Guerra and Mose off his hip, how about a run around, how about cutting mini out??
His running game is too predictable... He has no-one running off him. He runs at the wrong time, confusing himself and those around him, regularly submitting in the tackle

My point is, you seemed to be pissed off that people defend Pearce by shifting the blame... but that is what you do with BJ, so what's the difference? The differance people should not expect miracles form a 20 gamer playing out of position, they should expect more from Pearce being a 100 gamer, origin player, who has had a free passage into 1st grade.

In fact, I agree about his running game, I think he suffers a bit from a lack of structure in our attack, but yes, his short kicking and passing games could improve - but if you can say BJ's great but for those around him, why can't the same be said for Pearce?

As for me being one of these goons, I've said before that Pearce is a good halfback with the potential to develop further, nothing more... there is no reason to take the extreme view of some who claim he's an immortal by taking the other extreme, and claiming he's crap when he isn't. You claim to always say he's a first grade halfback, but that is bullshit, you bag him incessantly.Im claiming he is not as good as many here and his dad's mates would have people believe, i bag him when he plays crap, i also praise the guy when he does well, i do not expect him to be perfect, when people shove it down my throat that he is, is what gives me the shits

Hope that answered your questions

[Guest]

Hope that answered your questions

Yeah, fair enough.

It's just frustrating reading the same old stuff about how shit he is - I get that some take it to an extreme about him being the best halfback in the world etc., but there's no point doing the same at the other end of the spectrum.

A couple of little things: what you say about Guerra/Mose, run arounds etc. isn't Pearce's doing. Pearce's job is to execute those plays, it is the coaching staff's job to implement them. Smith hasn't enforced a structure at all this year, and I think the team as a whole has suffered.

On his kicking game - he really hasn't put that many out on the full, I can remember a couple at most. It's just another part of his game grossly exaggerated to bag him for no apparent reason. Repeat sets were as much a problem of Carney's as they were Pearce's, ditto Braith... clearly that's an aspect of the game plan, I doubt that it is a coincidence we've been playing with three halves who decided not to grubber.

But no-one is expecting miracles from Leilua, they are expecting solid defence and finishing, which he's failed to do consistently this year. Yes, he puts in, yes he's out of position, but he is nonetheless subject to deserved criticism. You expect miracles from an established player in Pearce, we expect established play from a rookie in Leilua.