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  • #16
    Originally posted by stringaz View Post

    Defence only one side of the game tho, don't expect him to churn out game high metres like tapau today, it's just that side of his game has been underwhelming for a while.
    He's definitely never going to be Martin Tapau and nor should he try to be. His job is to take play 1 and 2 early carries and then let the more effective ball carriers take multiple carries later in the set.

    Simply taking more carries to churn out high metres would be detrimental to the teams performance. That's what guys like Cordner & Taukeiaho are in the side to do.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post
      He also gave away a needless penalty which gifted them field position to score their first try. Gave away another silly penalty to allow them to tie up the game at 12 all. Making metres has been a responsibility of front rowers since 1908.
      JWH has been doing it for years, all the good he did with power runs were lost with shit penalties
      all the good 1% that Napa does in defence are negated by shit penalties

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

        He's definitely never going to be Martin Tapau and nor should he try to be. His job is to take play 1 and 2 early carries and then let the more effective ball carriers take multiple carries later in the set.

        Simply taking more carries to churn out high metres would be detrimental to the teams performance. That's what guys like Cordner & Taukeiaho are in the side to do.
        More involvement would be detrimental? What about sharing the load around? Look, what got me started was napa getting tackled down there end and the fella seemed to doze off, a tackle on JWH and he fought to get to his feet resulting in a penalty.

        I just believe (for a young fella) he's not really staking a claim on a front row position for the rest of his career. He is not useless but I think the bloke can play better, he's a huge unit and not really feared atm. Is he carrying injury we don't know about?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
          I don't know if anyone could actually be bothered but if you're watching a replay just play close attention to his commitment in defence. Really underestimated clog in our defence.
          Just doesn't fit the hype beast power runner mould that everyone idolises these days.
          Napa cops too much bad press on here, imo.
          Wish I could like that post more than once.

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          • #20
            Yes his defence is good, his attack is Shyte. Seems to be a common problem. Let’s make him captain too.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

              He's definitely never going to be Martin Tapau and nor should he try to be. His job is to take play 1 and 2 early carries and then let the more effective ball carriers take multiple carries later in the set.

              Simply taking more carries to churn out high metres would be detrimental to the teams performance. That's what guys like Cordner & Taukeiaho are in the side to do.
              He ambles to the line then shows zero urgency to get a quick play the ball, killing the set. Put any spin on it you like, the bloke is an imposter who is playing like he wants out of the club

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                Some of his defence today was exceptional, he was chasing plays down the edges that he had no right to and some of his cover defence saved us a couple of tries & linebreaks.

                I don't know if anyone could actually be bothered but if you're watching a replay just play close attention to his commitment in defence. Really underestimated clog in our defence.

                Just doesn't fit the hype beast power runner mould that everyone idolises these days.
                You’re right. Doesn’t make the highlight reel though so doesn’t get noticed hereabouts.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

                  He's definitely never going to be Martin Tapau and nor should he try to be. His job is to take play 1 and 2 early carries and then let the more effective ball carriers take multiple carries later in the set.

                  Simply taking more carries to churn out high metres would be detrimental to the teams performance. That's what guys like Cordner & Taukeiaho are in the side to do.
                  A prop with more carries making more meters would be detrimental to our teams performance. Get off the pipe..

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                  • #24
                    Napa should be in the 13 jersey doing this role the same way that Guerra did because Isaac Liu doesn’t offer enough going forward and one of JWH and SST are off at a time.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bigchook View Post

                      A prop with more carries making more meters would be detrimental to our teams performance. Get off the pipe..
                      More carries for Napa would mean less carries for more dynamic players like SST and Cordner. Makes sense if you think about it.

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                      • #26
                        If the coach used him properly he might be more valuable. He should just use his for the opening 10 minutes in each half and get him to come up with a big hit. Put an opposition forward on their ass and set the tone for the game. A couple of big runs as well wouldn’t go astray particularly if he’s only playing 10 mins at a time. He doesn’t seem to have the fitness/mobility to be an impactful 80 min forward every week.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Maxy Walker View Post

                          More carries for Napa would mean less carries for more dynamic players like SST and Cordner. Makes sense if you think about it.
                          When your starting prop is averaging less than 90m a game it doesn't make sense. If he's honestly that useless with the ball in hand he can go back to reggies. Napa is fast becoming our own Adam Blair. Few runs and few tackles.. But off the ball plays and other intangibles.. Sorry napa but for the reported 700k a year he's on, I expect something tangible.

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                          • #28
                            Maybe if napa was more effective and wasn't getting smashed on the advantage line our back rowers wouldn't be struggling like they are.

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                            • #29
                              I wish he hit the line a bit harder and tried to improve his leg drive in the tackle rather than just submitting. Question did he get penalised twice for taking too long to get off the tackled player ?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Bigchook View Post

                                When your starting prop is averaging less than 90m a game it doesn't make sense. If he's honestly that useless with the ball in hand he can go back to reggies. Napa is fast becoming our own Adam Blair. Few runs and few tackles.. But off the ball plays and other intangibles.. Sorry napa but for the reported 700k a year he's on, I expect something tangible.
                                What these people don't understand (admittedly Maxy Walker is clearly a troll) is that an NRL level starting prop needs to have the ability to make strong carries and defend well. TBH Napa's defence has been highly questionable this year as teams constantly exploit his poor lateral movement up the middle. He missed some tackles early yesterday and was caught out like SST on their first try, moreso from poor communication. After that he was fine and in fact JWH had some ordinary misses which I think led to his limited minutes. I doubt that registered as a missed tackle as he didn't lay a hand on Fonua-Blake. His slow hitups and play the balls kill our momentum, usually after Ferguson starts the set with a strong carry.
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