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    6 weeks into the competition we haven't won the possession battle in any game yet, I think one of the major problems with our team at the moment is our inability to put opposition defenses under stress and fatigue.

    our lack of completion rates, offloads and ball movement are reducing the amount of fatigue we are enforcing on other teams.

    with our current attacking structure of 5 hitups and a long kick in yardage sets, and 4 hitups and a sweep play in good ball areas is reducing the amount of lateral defensive movement opposition teams are forced to undertake.

    the reverse consequences of this is opposition teams are working us via offloads/ball movement which lead to fatigue and the massive holes appearing in behind our ruck.

    if Robbo continues to refuse to open our attack up, we will struggle to make any real impression in this years competition.

    its crazy to have players like Teddy/Keary/Mitchell who thrive with broken defensive line, and being unwilling to use offloads to open things up.

  • #2
    Some of our players have an offload too. In 2013 JWH was amazing at dropping it back for a start.

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    • #3
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      • #4
        The ultimate solution send them the to Anthony Miniciellos Minifit kids clinic on the school holidays
        Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

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        • #5
          When you have the worst completion rate out of all the teams its very hard to get cohesion, off loads, ball movement & put pressure on the opposition.
          You just never get in the zone because its continual stop start footy.

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          • #6
            The tries from kicks only lately is concerning with those players you mentioned. Are we still building into the season tho? Being conservative won't get us many wins from here on in.

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            • #7
              I still reckon its coming. In patches you can see it we can be deadly. Its just clunky and inconsistent.

              Even Melba are playing that way, good one week poor the next.

              The handling and penalties are just us. I'm used to it.

              I am giving them all the benefit of the doubt for now.

              5yrs, 4 prelim finals, 1 GF win.

              The coach aint a dummy.





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              • #8
                Originally posted by stsae View Post
                I still reckon its coming. In patches you can see it we can be deadly. Its just clunky and inconsistent.

                Even Melba are playing that way, good one week poor the next.

                The handling and penalties are just us. I'm used to it.

                I am giving them all the benefit of the doubt for now.

                5yrs, 4 prelim finals, 1 GF win.

                The coach aint a dummy.


                There is no difference in Robbos demeanor or in his mood whether you tell him he has just won lotto or that his mum has just passed away.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by stsae View Post
                  I still reckon its coming. In patches you can see it we can be deadly. Its just clunky and inconsistent.

                  Even Melba are playing that way, good one week poor the next.

                  The handling and penalties are just us. I'm used to it.

                  I am giving them all the benefit of the doubt for now.

                  5yrs, 4 prelim finals, 1 GF win.

                  The coach aint a dummy.


                  5 years = 1 GF win, thanks SBW .....no other stat matters

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post

                    There is no difference in Robbos demeanor or in his mood whether you tell him he has just won lotto or that his mum has just passed away.
                    The eyes always tell me. He is good at stoneface but his eyes especially when hes pissed off are very telling.

                    I dont understand the venom of some of our fellow fans hatred of the man.

                    I actually am proud of the fact hes our coach. Hes a solid man.

                    An Easts Man.

                    I have never heard a single opposition fan bag his coaching ability. Not one.

                    Only a few of our own.

                    5 yrs. 4 prelim finals. 3 minor prems. 2nd last. 1 GF WIN.

                    Been a great ride IMO.

                    I remember the 80s and 90s.



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
                      When you have the worst completion rate out of all the teams its very hard to get cohesion, off loads, ball movement & put pressure on the opposition.
                      You just never get in the zone because its continual stop start footy.
                      I believe our poor completion rate is due to being too structured and conservative. We allow opposition defences to get in our faces as they know we are not going to try anything outside of our 1 up hit ups or sweep play out the back. As such they can easily target the ball carrier, who is usually isolated, and we are subsequently forced to rush our plays. If our attack had more variety, it would be harder for opposition defences to defend against and shut us down.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by stsae View Post

                        The eyes always tell me. He is good at stoneface but his eyes especially when hes pissed off are very telling.

                        I dont understand the venom of some of our fellow fans hatred of the man.

                        I actually am proud of the fact hes our coach. Hes a solid man.

                        An Easts Man.

                        I have never heard a single opposition fan bag his coaching ability. Not one.

                        Only a few of our own.

                        5 yrs. 4 prelim finals. 3 minor prems. 2nd last. 1 GF WIN.

                        Been a great ride IMO.

                        I remember the 80s and 90s.

                        Not as good as Sticky.
                        Bring back Stick.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post

                          I believe our poor completion rate is due to being too structured and conservative. We allow opposition defences to get in our faces as they know we are not going to try anything outside of our 1 up hit ups or sweep play out the back. As such they can easily target the ball carrier, who is usually isolated, and we are subsequently forced to rush our plays. If our attack had more variety, it would be harder for opposition defences to defend against and shut us down.
                          That's a very good post mate.



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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post

                            I believe our poor completion rate is due to being too structured and conservative. We allow opposition defences to get in our faces as they know we are not going to try anything outside of our 1 up hit ups or sweep play out the back. As such they can easily target the ball carrier, who is usually isolated, and we are subsequently forced to rush our plays. If our attack had more variety, it would be harder for opposition defences to defend against and shut us down.
                            Maybe.
                            Its funny how the same match plan you give your under sixes is the match plan in first grade.
                            Why do FG coaches allow players to take the ball up 1 out under pressure & then get belted by 3 opposition forwards. I cant work out why moving the ball around is not the top priority. If teams who received the ball from the kick off threw the ball around from the word go it would completely stifle the opposition defence line.One out for 4 tackles & then a kick makes it easy for the opposition.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post

                              Not as good as Sticky.
                              Bring back Stick.
                              I never saw the 2 GF losses as pRicks demise mate. It was those 2 seasons post Freddy IMO.

                              Robbo saved himself last year. He took us close again.

                              I believe Uncle and Co wouldn't have a problem with us consistently being in prelim finals as long as we make a GF and win one sooner or later.

                              Which is what Robbos delivered.

                              He is due though. Our recruitment is the statement. The time is now or next season IMO.

                              I guess I'm saying I reckon hes safe till at least then.

                              And I still rate him and our chances.



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