Steve Noyce on 2KY this morning

[bondi-boy]

The club has been disappointing for well over 30 years ... Politis is the common denominator.. Sure hes a fan and was a sponsor and is well connected but for the good of the club we need a change at the top ...

It hasnt worked for long enough for us to know that change is required... The board are all mates, the ceo is the puppet ... The puppeteer needs to be changed I make this conclusion from everything I have heard and know over the past 20 years at this great club ... There are many on here that know also you just cant blindly trust someone based on their wealth and connections forever

We won the comp in 2002.
Around that time we were in several grand finals.

One word in the last 20 years.

Broncos.

[bondi-boy]

lol

Gman, I don't need you to "drive" anything - if that changes, I'll let you know

Politis has changed the supposedly democratic process of electing a board into a closed shop

If you choose to blindly accept that, like a dumb lap dog, then you are an idiot

Please stop being so foolish on this forum - myself and the other chookpenners refuse to drive your agenda to prove you are a fool

Elections are not all they're cracked to be.

[bondi-boy]

I hear the main prob with Stece Noyce is that he is way too Noyce. Way to nice and gets stepped on by many.

Nah, the footy world these days has changed.

Now it's all about PC, 'feelings', breach notices, warnings etc.

The Roosters is a workplace like any other.

[bondi-boy]

This is (supposed to be) a football club, not a rehab facility

Rehab is part of the 'caring and sharing' modern workplace.

Carney's manager said he's easily led...which is quite obvious...and why he must live and be chaperoned everywhere by an older mentor.
I thought his mother was coming to Sydney to live with him.

That, the live in older mentor, should've been put in place last time.
It wasn't...so now he's about to be farewelled from the NRL altogether, if the reports are correct.

All too late now it seems.

Why didn't mum and Todd hire someone to bodyguard him and save him from himself, and save his footy future?
They didn't, they should have.

[Guest]

Who farkin cares about Souths?

"We're going ok, look at Souths"

fark me dead

OK, let's put it another way. In the last 10 years (2002 - 2011) we have made 4 finals series, 3 grand finals and won a premiership. Which Sydney club has a better record than that?

By my reckoning, a few clubs are more or less on par -
Saints (a merged entity) has a few semis (i think a couple more than us) two grand finals and one premiership.
Tigers (another merged entity) three semis (inc this year) and one premiership.
Manly - a few semis, one GF and one premiership.
Panthers, a few semis, one Premiership.
Bulldogs, a few semis, one Premiership.

A bunch of clubs make us look like geniuses -
Sharks - two semis.
Rabbits - one semis.
Parra, a couple of semis and one GF.

You could draw a similar picture in the post Super League era (though that would probably flatter us).

No Sydney club has been consistently strong. The consistently dominant sides are the single city clubs. This is the reality of the NRL.

[Guest]

Parra made two...01-09.

[Guest]

Parra made two...01-09.

Last 10 years is since 2002.

[Guest]

Parra made two...01-09.

You been hybernating?

[Guest]

No one gets shot anywhere...they get sat down, looked straight in the eye and given their final cheque, bye bye!

Unlike at some other clubs!

spot on . We don"t shaft players ...even those we punt, have good things to say when they leave . Ashley Harrison is a prime example.

[Vasco]

The idiocy of the whole situation is that two of our biggest liabilities on the field - Mini and Anasta - think they can impose booze bans on the younger players.

I don't rate the whole "leadership group" philosophy. The concept of the "senior players leadership group" is a relatively new phenomenon.

I can't remember hearing much about "leadership groups" being allowed to "impose team discipline" on other players back in the 1990s or even early 2000s.

Jack Gibson didn't need a "leadership group" thinking they ran the joint. The leadership group at Easts should consist of the CEO and coaching staff. "Leadership groups" were invented about five years ago, to make the Gen-Y kids who play Rugby League these days, feel special and loved.

It's a joke.

Leadership groups are a recipe for letting the lunatics run the asylum.

[Headless Chook]

The idiocy of the whole situation is that two of our biggest liabilities on the field - Mini and Anasta - think they can impose booze bans on the younger players.

I don't rate the whole "leadership group" philosophy. The concept of the "senior players leadership group" is a relatively new phenomenon.

I can't remember hearing much about "leadership groups" being allowed to "impose team discipline" on other players back in the 1990s or even early 2000s.

Jack Gibson didn't need a "leadership group" thinking they ran the joint. The leadership group at Easts should consist of the CEO and coaching staff. "Leadership groups" were invented about five years ago, to make the Gen-Y kids who play Rugby League these days, feel special and loved.

It's a joke.

Leadership groups are a recipe for letting the lunatics run the asylum.

Jack Gibson had leadership groups at Easts and Parramatta they just weren't called as such.

[Vasco]

Jack Gibson had leadership groups at Easts and Parramatta they just weren't called as such.

They had nowhere near the power these two liabilities have.

[Cockadoodledoo]

The idiocy of the whole situation is that two of our biggest liabilities on the field - Mini and Anasta - think they can impose booze bans on the younger players.

I don't rate the whole "leadership group" philosophy. The concept of the "senior players leadership group" is a relatively new phenomenon.

I can't remember hearing much about "leadership groups" being allowed to "impose team discipline" on other players back in the 1990s or even early 2000s.

Jack Gibson didn't need a "leadership group" thinking they ran the joint. The leadership group at Easts should consist of the CEO and coaching staff. "Leadership groups" were invented about five years ago, to make the Gen-Y kids who play Rugby League these days, feel special and loved.

It's a joke.

Leadership groups are a recipe for letting the lunatics run the asylum.

Nail on head... Maybe if these guys showed some 'leadership' on the field the younger players may respect them a little more.. they are being literally carried by the rest of the team.

[Headless Chook]

So its the leadership groups fault now?

[Vasco]

So its the leadership groups fault now?

No.

It's the real leaders.

CEO, Head Coach, Chairman...