The bunker can get ****ED.

[Team Evil]

I wasn't convinced he touched it.
Apart from that I was confused, we recieved penalties tonight that I had no idea what they were for. I am not used to that at all

Kingbilly I am convinced that Parra touched it but that is not the point.
The Touchy saw that Parra touched it and that should have been the call.
Unless the Bunker is certain that Parra did not touch it then they should not have overruled the on field call.

[Kentucky_Fried_Rooster]

This place sh*ts me at times.
We lose and its the ref, bunker or nrl has it for us.
We don't win the cup because the nrl are trying to give team X a turn.
What a load of crap, so in 2013 the nrl decided it was our turn ?
The no try at the end was a correct decision. Did para touch the ball ? probably but can't say 100% for sure.
The team and coaching staff are at fault for our poor season not the nrl.

[Team Evil]

They touched the ball 5m out from the line and we got bundled into touch on the tryline. It's league not union

Again, go back and listen to Patton!
He said not enough evidence that Parra touched it.
Nothing to do with union.
You said yourself 5m. The rule is 10 meters, that changed about 7 years ago.
But Patton said NOT enough evidence.
He should listen to the on field touchy.

[2026]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...6986e262dfb497

[Waerea-Beast!]

The bunker did not lose us the game tonight, but that was a disgustingly atrocious decision from a repulsive person.

[Team Evil]

This place sh*ts me at times.
We lose and its the ref, bunker or nrl has it for us.
We don't win the cup because the nrl are trying to give team X a turn.
What a load of crap, so in 2013 the nrl decided it was our turn ?
The no try at the end was a correct decision. Did para touch the ball ? probably but can't say 100% for sure.
The team and coaching staff are at fault for our poor season not the nrl.

Ha Ha,
Please read my 10 posts.
I am not blaming the Refs or the bunker.
This post is not about how we played or who's fault it was.
It's about the F*&^%king Bunker.

[Kentucky_Fried_Rooster]

Ha Ha,
Please read my 10 posts.
I am not blaming the Refs or the bunker.
This post is not about how we played or who's fault it was.
It's about the F*&^%king Bunker.

I have read what you have posted and agree with you.
But after every lose so many posters blame everyone bar the team. I get sick of them.

[Parkway_Drive]

I think half the posters on this thread don't get it.
The OP is not complaining about the result or whether the try should have been given or or not. I think we all agree it was no try anyway.
He is just saying the bunker got the decision wrong and it should have been our ball as Touch judge called touch and even my Parra mate at the game said Gutherson touched it.
The OP is just saying we keep getting the raw end of the stick when it comes down to bunker decisions and he is not happy about it that is all.

Quite ironic actually as I think the bunker wasnt used for any of the tries actually scored which was really refreshing to witness.

[Team Evil]

I think half the posters on this thread don't get it.
The OP is not complaining about the result or whether the try should have been given or or not. I think we all agree it was no try anyway.
He is just saying the bunker got the decision wrong and it should have been our ball as Touch judge called touch and even my Parra mate at the game said Gutherson touched it.
The OP is just saying we keep getting the raw end of the stick when it comes down to bunker decisions and he is not happy about it that is all.

Quite ironic actually as I think the bunker wasnt used for any of the tries actually scored which was really refreshing to witness.

Thank you

[Hollus]

The bunker should not be allowed to rule on anything that wasn't requested by the referee. Checchin sent it up to check grounding that's the only thing the bunker should have judged.

[Vasco]

Kingbilly I am convinced that Parra touched it but that is not the point.
The Touchy saw that Parra touched it and that should have been the call.
Unless the Bunker is certain that Parra did not touch it then they should not have overruled the on field call.

Fair call. What's the point of touch judges if they won't take their word considering they are right there.

The bunker is more detrimental than positive.

There would be few that think otherwise.

There seemed to be less controversy 20 years ago with one ref and two camera angles.

[The Axe]

This bunker decision did not cost us the match just didn't allow us the opportunity of 45 secs to win it. In order to deprive us they had to overrule a touchie and ignore what to me was an obvious deflection. I'll concede as 50/50 call but I'm starting to see 50/50s are 10/90s.

A keen observer pointed out to me how match management can occur. This was the year Souffs won. Once you see, it is is obvious yet subtle.
1. Allow one team fast control in the rucks (not obvious to most fans who focus on other issues) either through one team to hold down or insist the defensive team release quickly
2. Penalties awarded deep in their own half (get out of gaol cards)
3. Late in 6 penalties better than early
4. Even up penalties on line and early in count or approaching half time where it is meaningless
5. Earlier this year review diving incidents (no longer applicable)
6. Most hurtful is the refs call and refer to vidiot. Vidiot needs to then find compelling evidence to over-turn
7. Villain management - create a villain (JWH) and penalise the shit out of him as a serial offender
8, Hero MAnagement - how many penalties can SBurgearse, CSmith & Inglarse attract FFS
9. Finally the old inside the 10 rule - can't tell you how few penalties we've received at matches I've attended where teams are camped offside all game.

This is why we need a proactive Integrity unit - games can be managed. Our rules encourage it (say over AFL); mutiple referees confuse and deflect attention. Especially now as the game is sponsored by multiple betting agencies. If they can use proactive drug testing, they should do the same with all game officials and players. Even for perception sake

[The Axe]

I pointed this out above for a reason. We all have free will to make our own decisions. Think me crazy. Many who agree with me no longer post.

My intent was by posting above, we'd get it out there for people to observe in matches and make own decisions. Also Integrity units can see how matches could in theory be controlled and watch for evidence or revise rules with this lens over it. My intent is not to whinge rather to look to improve the game and distance itself from any potential negative influences. If my son refereed at the top level, I'd want it to be in a game where his brand is distanced from any perception of wrong doing. Revising rules and decision-making with some of the above considered might help.

Personally, I feel we should go back to one ref. One throat to throttle and one hand to congratulate after a match. I used to love this game and want to love it again

[takethe 2]

I totally agree that the bunker stuffed up yet again!!!! very bloody frustrating.

With regards to the 79th min call, its not a question of advantage or not or being league or union.....its the fact that in checking a possible try scoring movement, they go back and check the leadup to the grounding as well. if there is an indeiscretion in the lead up then they usually judge accordingly. Except for us. Not enough evidence they reckon,,,,,thats a joke but not a good one.

I don't know if we would have scored in the final 45 seconds off a scrum, but isn't it relevant that we should have had the opportunity to do so. It was a bad call regardless of the rest of the game or how we let an 18-6 lead slip away.

[Game Fowl]

Kingbilly I am convinced that Parra touched it but that is not the point.
The Touchy saw that Parra touched it and that should have been the call.
Unless the Bunker is certain that Parra did not touch it then they should not have overruled the on field call.

Fair call , go with on field decision if no evidence to contrary