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  • Penalty Try Decision

    One thing to say about it:
    JOSEPH MANU WAS ROBBED
    I mean, if it goes our way, statisticlally speaking we win the game based just on the scoreboard, and Manu gets his try on debut. Whole different story.
    That is all

    But on another note, Connor freaking Watson.
    Comes on, almost straight away gets a try. The boys on Monday night with Matty Johns just gave him a big rap too, so can someone please just get him on the damn field more. 19 and working wonders in a defeated team even with usually less than 20 minutes of play. Use him

  • #2
    That was a stitch up.

    There was no doubt he would've scored.

    The writing was on the wall after the opening 10 minutes.

    A Maxwell reaming was imminent!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by nikottam View Post
      One thing to say about it:
      JOSEPH MANU WAS ROBBED
      I mean, if it goes our way, statisticlally speaking we win the game based just on the scoreboard, and Manu gets his try on debut. Whole different story.
      That is all

      But on another note, Connor freaking Watson.
      Comes on, almost straight away gets a try. The boys on Monday night with Matty Johns just gave him a big rap too, so can someone please just get him on the damn field more. 19 and working wonders in a defeated team even with usually less than 20 minutes of play. Use him
      While we're rubbish this season, we're offering up a lot of opportunities for talented youngsters. I'm p!ssed that Maxwell gave the Warriors the game because they didn't play well enough to deserve a win!!!

      Warriors were a pretty much full-strength Kiwi team with nobody our for Origin.

      We had Mitchell, Manu, Matterson, Hastings, Watson and Smith... a bunch of kids playing!! Oh and Cordner, Pearce, Fergo and Guerra were out. With all the piggy-backs that the Warriors were given, they STILL failed to score more than one try!! We scored more tries than the farkers and the only reason they won was because Maxwell (on top of letting the Warriors run amok) gave them 6 free points (and stole a penalty try).

      The worst offence (and IMO what sealed the game for the Warriors) was that they were allowed to do those sh!tty late offloads!!! K... guy's wrapped up... he's going nowhere. Tackled right? Lets go back 10 and he can play the ball. NOOOOPE!!! As soon as you let the farker go, he offloads and the next guy runs 20m!!!! This is fine if the ref's gonna be consistent and let us hold onto them for 10 minutes, lock the ball up to prevent offloads and flip them on their @rs3 like a surrender tackle if the ball runner INSISTS that the ball is still alive for an offload (or in some cases a free run when everybody thinks they're about to play the ball). IMO Maxwell was sloppy as!!!! We got penalised a fark load of times for holding on too long... why? Because Maxwell was letting them offload 10 minutes after the tackle had been completed!! Whadda you do? You totally lose any momentum if there is NEVER a drop of certainty about a completed tackle. IMO Maxwell was super selective in his decisions to allow late offloads/runs and deny us the ability to wrap up potential offloaders/runners. This turned the game into a farce because while the Warriors had absolutely nothing in attack (they only scored 1 try off a 10-2 penalty count FFS!!!) they got 6 free points and we NEVER got the field position we needed because we weren't allowed to stop them from progressing forward. Absolute farce!!!

      IMO the Warriors had no right to get so much help from the refs. They were the stronger team on paper, we were the underdogs and the Warriors played like absolute p00 (whereas we had a lot of positive players and young guns who were keep to get the job done, and clearly out-played the Warriors). The result was not reflective of how poor it was for a full-strength Kiwi side (nobody out for Origin) with a 10-2 penalty count to score less tries than a bunch of Roosters kids. Warriors were really poor and in my books didn't 'win' except if you look at the Maxwell scale. They should all hang their heads in shame and demand that the NRL give us the points because they know they didn't deserve the win.
      Last edited by ism22; 06-20-2016, 11:18 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by nikottam View Post
        One thing to say about it:
        JOSEPH MANU WAS ROBBED
        I mean, if it goes our way, statisticlally speaking we win the game based just on the scoreboard, and Manu gets his try on debut. Whole different story.
        That is all

        But on another note, Connor freaking Watson.
        Comes on, almost straight away gets a try. The boys on Monday night with Matty Johns just gave him a big rap too, so can someone please just get him on the damn field more. 19 and working wonders in a defeated team even with usually less than 20 minutes of play. Use him
        Didn't it actually turn out better? We scored a try in the next couple of sets, and also had the benefit of one of their players binned for 10min.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by milanja View Post

          Didn't it actually turn out better? We scored a try in the next couple of sets, and also had the benefit of one of their players binned for 10min.
          Not sure, could the player still have been sin binned even if we were awarded the penalty try ? If so were where worse off as if we were awarded the penalty try the conversion would have been right in front of the post and it would have been a certain 6 pts.

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          • #6
            No it's one or the other usually, the try we scored was close enough for a decent kicker to kick, if SST missed that one, i wouldn't guarantee he would kick it from in front either. On the day he kicked 6/6, he looked just as likey to miss 6/6. Not sure why Hastings wasn't goal kicker.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by milanja View Post

              Didn't it actually turn out better? We scored a try in the next couple of sets, and also had the benefit of one of their players binned for 10min.
              It coulda been a penalty try closer to the sticks (easier to convert) + a 2nd conversion making it an 8-point try.

              Also, the player woulda been binner for 'longer' because we wouldn't have had to spend 5 minutes finding another try to get back to where we shoulda been at in the first place.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                It coulda been a penalty try closer to the sticks (easier to convert) + a 2nd conversion making it an 8-point try.
                You don't know the rules. You can only get an 8 point try for the try scorer being fouled after scoring a legitimate try. A penalty try where a player was prevented from scoring by an illegal act does not provide a second goal kick.

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                • #9
                  Braith Anasta's Wallet doesn't believe that awarding the penalty try would have won our team the game however it was the correct decision and should have been made. The bunker have decided that the Auckland Warriors player was close enough to potentially stop the try which is simply not true as the above camera angle clearly showed that Joseph Manu would have scored without the interference. Perhaps being 6 points in front would have put more pressure on the Auckland Warriors to go for tries instead of kick for penalty goals however.

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                  • #10
                    The penalty and 10 in the bin was the correct decision...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by milanja View Post
                      No it's one or the other usually, the try we scored was close enough for a decent kicker to kick, if SST missed that one, i wouldn't guarantee he would kick it from in front either. On the day he kicked 6/6, he looked just as likey to miss 6/6. Not sure why Hastings wasn't goal kicker.
                      Because Friend won't back down from their dispute, and allowing him to kick goals would mean they need him, and so Jacko wins

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Pass the Ball View Post
                        The penalty and 10 in the bin was the correct decision...
                        ​No it wasn't, Manu still grounded the ball albeit when he was dead in goal. So yes without the interference would have got to the ball earlier... Should have been a penalty try.

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                        • #13
                          Where are you people getting this tripe?

                          The call was contentious but acceptable. You couldnt tell with 100% certainty that he would of got that down.

                          The warriors beat us fair and square. They dominated the ruck and contact thus receiving a heap of penalties.

                          It was only their lacklustre attack which kept us in the game.

                          As for someone writing that they had the entire kiwi team playing - lmao.

                          They are missing their biggest off season recruit. They lost their half in the first 10 which forced a backrower onto the wing and they had Johnson on one leg.

                          Seriously, i sometimes wonder how frustrating it must be for orher teams fans listening to our excuses.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LargeMike View Post
                            Where are you people getting this tripe?

                            The call was contentious but acceptable. You couldnt tell with 100% certainty that he would of got that down.

                            The warriors beat us fair and square. They dominated the ruck and contact thus receiving a heap of penalties.

                            It was only their lacklustre attack which kept us in the game.

                            As for someone writing that they had the entire kiwi team playing - lmao.

                            They are missing their biggest off season recruit. They lost their half in the first 10 which forced a backrower onto the wing and they had Johnson on one leg.

                            Seriously, i sometimes wonder how frustrating it must be for orher teams fans listening to our excuses.
                            +1000. I can't remember the last time we lost a game where this forum didn't believe it was due to the referees. Every team says the same shit after they lose.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bigchook View Post

                              +1000. I can't remember the last time we lost a game where this forum didn't believe it was due to the referees. Every team says the same shit after they lose.

                              You're such a cool character BC, I could learn from you.
                              Unfortunately in this case I think you are playing the ostrich a little.
                              Referees??
                              The nrl hasn't used them in years.
                              And nobody on this forum has ever explained the penalties we don't receive. (discounting square ups)

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