Lama Tasi out for six weeks

[Guest]

if the guy wants to play its pretty hard to stop them

[Headless Chook]

All the more reason to look after him.

The replacement rules need to be looked at so players are not forced to play with suspected serious injuries.

5 man bench?

15 interchanges?

Surely you can't ber serious?????

[Roosterfarian]

I also found out after that smith made a call during the 2nd half. "tell tasi to get in the game or he is off"

aha! You can actually hear Smith mutter something to that effect during the broadcast. He was on the sidelines at that point and was screaming into his headpiece. I thought he was referring to JWH and was puzzled but this explains it all.

[Guest]

Bad news, he looked good mixing it up.

Chook.

[Johnny Tobin]

Surely you can't ber serious?????

He is serious!

And his name is not Shirley!

[TheLoneRooster]

What a tough and talented man Lama is and what a farkwit Smith is for laying down such an ultimatum.
Smith, you need to look after your players, not abuse them you dipshit. And don't use the excuse you didn't know it was fractured ...

[Guest]

When you think about Smith was incredibly stupid to do such a thing. Where is the duty of care for his players?

[Pass the Ball]

Chinese whispers...

Where am I?? Mothers club gossipers group..

Also, there are fractures and there are fractures...

[Vasco]

When you think about Smith was incredibly stupid to do such a thing. Where is the duty of care for his players?

Mark Harris played in a semi final with a fractured leg.

Nobody was calling Jack Gibson "incredibly stupid".

The player himself is the best judge of an injury. He thought he would be able to get through the pain.

[supermario]

Where does the duty of care stop though???

A player can say no they are not injured, can stomach the pain and continue to play.

If a player, like lama, shows no sign of injury and no sign of fracture is shown on an xray does the coach play one player down for 60 or so minutes or do they put the player back out there?

[Guest]

Mark Harris played in a semi final with a fractured leg.

Nobody was calling Jack Gibson "incredibly stupid".

The player himself is the best judge of an injury. He thought he would be able to get through the pain.

The sport has become a great deal more professional since the days of Mark Harris mate. Also, it was a semi-final. At this point in the season there is a long way to go, not to mention Tasi is still very young. None of us know the real story or the extent of the injury. As you say it is up to the player really.

[Guest]

Where does the duty of care stop though???

A player can say no they are not injured, can stomach the pain and continue to play.

If a player, like lama, shows no sign of injury and no sign of fracture is shown on an xray does the coach play one player down for 60 or so minutes or do they put the player back out there?

It is one thing being able to stomach the pain - but Tasi needed 2 needles to go back on.

This sort of policy or lack thereof, certainly isn't exclusive to the Roosters or Smith.

I think the league needs to assess whether they think it is safe for a player to be injured, needle up at half time and go back on. I don't think its safe. I would prefer a facility where backup players are available to come on in the event of a serious injury. Obviously this would need a lot of thought about how it is implemented so coaches don't train their players to 'pull a hamstring' when they get tired. It wouldn't be hard to put controls around such a rule though (e.g. the replacement player needs to have played in the 20s game earlier in the day, the replaced player can not play the next week etc)

[Guest]

Where does the duty of care stop though???

A player can say no they are not injured, can stomach the pain and continue to play.

If a player, like lama, shows no sign of injury and no sign of fracture is shown on an xray does the coach play one player down for 60 or so minutes or do they put the player back out there?

Yep fair enough. Although in other cases we have seen the mismanagement of differernt injuries resulting in worse injuries (not just our club). I'm no doctor but Cherrington may possibly be such an example.

[Guest]

If it was up to Lama to continue playing, I have no issues. But if the staff 'pushed' him out, they have a lot to answer for!

[Guest]

im not sure you can leave it up to the players as being the best judge. the players would also have an overwhelming desire to please their coach and their team mates and also pressures for spots to stay in the starting line up may cloud their better judgement.

im also not sure how they judge that the injury did not get any worse if they did not do an xray before he went back on the field.

in saying that it is a contact sport and he was needed to continue playing as the team was fatigued. i wonder if we were sitting in 4th position would he have been risked...