Ball playing fullbacks Vs Ball runners

[eddie]

Is that the same as turning a simple game into a complicated exercise?

This is true.
The stats they print in the big league are mind boggling , don't even know what some of them mean.
The reality is that it's all just another americanism, unfortunately.
They thrive on stats in every regard and don't learn from things like advertising companies or politics...........sad I reckon.
We have cricket to satisfy the stat heads.

League is a simple game still , despite the constant efforts to ruin it.
Kinda miss the days when a few schooners and the tribalism of the team you support dictated our collective escape from all the crap we put up with from monday to friday.
I digress.

Sorry all.

[Double]

It's all about selling data to kids via apps Eddie.

[2026]

4 major codes and a modest population

[Cockadoodledoo]

The stats are damning.

Who woulda thunk it aye.....

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1227612320865

Back on topic the fact that you are resorting to quoting the Telegraph shows how low you are stooping here. One glaring omission is the absence of Greg Inglis as a ball running fullback. He isn't much of a ball playing one, he is also the closest comparison in an attacking sense to Fergo. I guess it would have killed the artcles and original posters argument.

[eddie]

It's all about selling data to kids via apps Eddie.

I feel old all of a sudden.

[Rooster_6]

Back on topic the fact that you are resorting to quoting the Telegraph shows how low you are stooping here. One glaring omission is the absence of Greg Inglis as a ball running fullback. He isn't much of a ball playing one, he is also the closest comparison in an attacking sense to Fergo. I guess it would have killed the artcles and original posters argument.

He's definitely a more natural ball runner than ball player but it's an expectation of his in the Rabbitohs structure and system that he needs to create points. He was ranked 10th in the NRL this year for Line Break Assists & 20th for Try Assists this year, not bad for a bloke hampered by a knee injury if you ask me. Since moving to fullback in 2013 he averages 13 try assists & 13 linebreak assists per season, which is nothing to sneeze at.

He's never going to be a great ball player but he's at least up to a decent standard & a genuine option in set plays.

[Tommy Smith]

Can we all agree that Dugan sucks? He's a classic ball running fullback because he can't do anything else. And Daley is a massive fool given he'll probably stick with him over Tedesco, who has an excellent pair of quick hands and an ability to put his outside man away for a try.

[eddie]

"go to the game?"

"yeah I did"

"Cordner had a blinder, ya reckon?"

"Dunno, haven't checked his stats yet"

[Rooster_6]

Can we all agree that Dugan sucks? He's a classic ball running fullback because he can't do anything else. And Daley is a massive fool given he'll probably stick with him over Tedesco, who has an excellent pair of quick hands and an ability to put his outside man away for a try.

I'm well on that boat.

Although I'm a big fan of Matt Moylan, I'd be happy with Tedesco. Even Lachlan Coote would be a better option than Dugan.

[roostersrule2]

Dugan is a great player only a moron would think otherwise. Just because he has a poor passing game does not make him a bad player.

Though Tedesco is better, to say Moylan or Coote are is just ridiculous. Moylan may be better in time but not at the moment.

On topic though a ball running fullback beats a ball playing one every time. Would you rather have a player with Rogers running game or Rogers passing game?

[Tommy Smith]

Coote is a better player than Dugan. I believe he showed that quite clearly in 2015.

Coote is fantastic, so incredibly underrated by plods who don't see 200+ running metres in the stat line and thus assume the fullback had a bad game.

Coote is a very good support player. He also has a significantly better passing and kicking game than Dugan; and he's also a much better defender.

Oh, and he's much tougher. Dugan is soft as butter. Goes down like he's been shot by a sniper every game.

Coote >>>>> Dugan.

[Rooster_6]

Dugan is a great player only a moron would think otherwise. Just because he has a poor passing game does not make him a bad player.

It might not make him a bad player but it makes him an average fullback. It's no surprise his best games for the Dragons came when he was in the centres.

On topic though a ball running fullback beats a ball playing one every time. Would you rather have a player with Rogers running game or Rogers passing game?

If RTS had no ball playing skills then his running game wouldn't be anywhere near as effective as it is, it's a redundant question.

[Tommy Smith]

On topic though a ball running fullback beats a ball playing one every time. Would you rather have a player with Rogers running game or Rogers passing game?

Roger has a very good passing game, which is only going to get better. Of course his running game is his best asset, but he's also developing his ball playing skills at a rapid rate.

So that's a silly comparison tbh. I'd rather a fullback with a combination of both skills.

[roostersrule2]

You're certainly entitled to your opinions but I'd take Dugan over Coote every day of the week. I guess it depends what type of style of footy you play. With two dominant halves like Benji and Widdop the need for a ball playing fullback isn't required. Whereas the Cowboys have Thurston who's the dominant half and Morgan who is a great running five-eight with solid passing and kicking games, this is why Coote is invaluable to them.

The point I was trying to make with Rogers running and passing game is that he is a ball runner first and foremost. So is every other fullback in the game, it's the primary skill of a fullback. The passing is just a bonus.

[2026]

Cows still would've won the comp with Dugun at fullback.

Anyways, Dugan would be earning double Cootes annual salary so that makes him twice as good.

That's how it works right?