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Originally posted by crikey chris View PostFor fuks sake people, Jake is only 20.
Stop crucifying a 20 yr old for the mess we are in. Yes he gives away stupid penalties, but he is not alone.
It is not the younger guys that are the issue here, the so-called experienced ones are not showing any leadership, drive or enthusiasm.
Give the kid time to shine.
And Dumbrell from the 20's looks a good prospect at hooker.
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what has stuffed us up is watts little deicison to play home wrecker. he would have been our best signing this year and the combination he and jake would have formed rotating at hooker would have been second to none. jake is an excellent hooker but as others have said he is suffering because other sides seem to target him as a weakness and he is doing exorbatant amounts of defence. if we had a watts-esq player rotating with him i think we would have one of the most dynamic hookers in the comp but that was not to be. this is why i would like us to pick up anthony mitchell. young player but is very sharp and nippy which would be ideal to complement friend. between friend, mitchell and dumbrell we would have three excellent young hookers going foward. the only problem i have with those 3 is the fact that they are all very young. this is why i would not entirely be against someone like craig wing for a year or two if his head was in the right place, his body could handle it and he wasnt demanding too much.
on a side note, i think friend needs to work on his tackling technique. he seems to always go high on the other player which is fine when you are big but when you are small it means that other teams manage to carry him a few extra metres and get a quicker play the ball and force the penatly which imo is why he is targeted. what he should be doing is tackling around the legs and letting the big guys like JWH and Kennedy wrap up the ball because they are far stronger and more likely to dominate the opposition forwards physically up top.
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Originally posted by fred68 View PostDe Guis is far superior than Jake. What are your thoughts on him?
I remember watching De Gois play for Wests in Premier League about 6yrs ago and been a fan since. He's hard working, crafty around the ruck and has a kicking game as well. I believe Cronulla are trying hard to get him back but with "the grub" not expected to be with us in 2012, i'm hoping that we enter the market for Isaac's services. He and Friend would blend nicely imo.
Dumbrell is coming along nicely.....still only 19 he's a works in progress. Needs to bulk up a little but that will come with time.
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Jake Friend makes a lot of tackles and cleans up a lot of mess. If only the rest of the forward pack had anything like his ticker. Jake is just like Nathan Friend into everything both in defence and attack. Would be very noticed if he was gone (how are the Titan's going?). In saying that Jake is not very dangerous or probing around the ruck like say Aiton or Isaac Luke. Neither is he a structured play-maker like say Cam Smith or Robbie Farrah. However, he is only 20 and well and truly established as a first grader. Jake was sensational last year.
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Fred there are another 10 players I would criticise before I had a go at Friend who at least puts in for the team.
He is young and a little raw, but hes a good team player, and we need all of them we can get.
Jake is the least of our problems in 2011.
NCSupporting the RW&B, through good times and bad times.
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Originally posted by theGman View PostFred,
I remember watching De Gois play for Wests in Premier League about 6yrs ago and been a fan since. He's hard working, crafty around the ruck and has a kicking game as well. I believe Cronulla are trying hard to get him back but with "the grub" not expected to be with us in 2012, i'm hoping that we enter the market for Isaac's services. He and Friend would blend nicely imo.
Dumbrell is coming along nicely.....still only 19 he's a works in progress. Needs to bulk up a little but that will come with time.
Being tight around the middle is essential in the modern day game. Defence is so underrated on this forum especially by the thread starter who doesn't seem to think we'd miss Myles & Friend.
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Anyone fast can score tries, that's why wingers do it regularly.
Well, not ours.
Racking up anything over 20 tackles a game takes guts and heart.
Jake Friend did over 50, what does that tell you about him?
And people are right, there are a lot of overpaid Bludgers in this team.
And I'm not talking about the balls in Quidditch, or a pimp or a fish.
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I was very interested when I saw this topic. I noticed yesterday the difference between Friend and Paul Aiton. When Aiton was on the field he was killing us. Going blind side, scooting out of dummy half and terrorizing our slow boppers like masoe. But as soon as he got injured and went off we started to look better. Coincidence?? Don't think so. Friend on the other hand is more of a workhorse. He must have a running game because that try he set up for carney in the tigers semi last year was brilliant. Perhaps he is being coached not to run? Sounds ridiculous but who knows. Anyway i remember starting a post about how James Aubusson stink back in 08 and was universally bagged for it. I think friend does have potential but we need some spark right now. He's not providing it. Someone has to....
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Good post spy.
Off the top of my head and without going through the team
lists, I reckon friend is one of the worst hookers in the comp. Grossly overated by people on this site. He is young so doesn't deserve the full punt - he should be backup hooker but instead he's our main one.
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Originally posted by fred68 View PostGood post spy.
Off the top of my head and without going through the team
lists, I reckon friend is one of the worst hookers in the comp. Grossly overated by people on this site. He is young so doesn't deserve the full punt - he should be backup hooker but instead he's our main one.
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It is likely that De Gois will go to the sharks, however,I think that they would take Jake over Isaac.
Why?
Simple Fred,
Jake is a keeper. You are not seeing the same game as me if you cannot see that Jake did the tackling for Anasta, and a lazy front rower.barbarian ......arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by fred68 View PostGood post spy.
Off the top of my head and without going through the team
lists, I reckon friend is one of the worst hookers in the comp. Grossly overated by people on this site. He is young so doesn't deserve the full punt - he should be backup hooker but instead he's our main one.Alcohol never solved any life problems.....then again neither did milk.
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