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Originally posted by melon.... View PostThe club has failed massively in their attempts or in their lack of management.
But thats not what the article is saying. Its saying Carney was drinking Vodkas all night until 4 am. An insider said so.
But the police report mentions that the Watts incident occured at 4 am in his unit in coogee............
flies in the face of what the tellucrap reported. if the watts incident occured at 4am, was TC out on his own in the cross at that time or are things being blown up and twisted......me thinks the latter.
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Originally posted by Bill Shankley, Liverpool FCAt a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.Originally posted by Andy Raymond Commentating Souffs V Manly 18/04/09The fireworks at the Easter show are making more noise than the crowd tonight
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Originally posted by Tries Off Kicks View PostYou're like a retarded parent who blames the school and the other kids and god knows what else for little Johnny repeatedly acting like a total carnt
lol
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All I read was insight into the neurology of an addict.
Perhaps, you need to soak into what Melon has written here.
Immerse yourself with your understanding of addictions that you have and realise that breaking the addiction is a day to day proposition.
There is no magic switch and perhaps we need to show some real compassion.barbarian ......arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by melon.... View PostWhat Watts has allegedly done is unforgivable. If true the guy needs to be locked up. And Id be happy to throw the key away.
And now I may get howled down for saying this, but whilst Carney may have been out drinking with him, he didnt do anything wrong but let himself and his club down. Yes it isnt illegal, and he has hurt the hand that feeds him, but is it sackable? Maybe it is. For me it isnt.
A high profile addict's weakness and the fact he cannot fight this addiction, even lying to the club to feed his habit, is the charge he faces. But despite the disrepute, the embarrassment, the anguish, the danger, this isnt the reason this issue is highlighted and centered around Carney this morning.
The reason all this looks so gloomy and "bad" for Carney, is the unsubstantiated crap and sensationalism from the DT and Beetroot face himself.
Beetroot face even claims he was drinking Vodkas and soda in front of everyone. Someone saw him. An insider. No names, Carney wasnt intoxicated, but according to the papers he was drinking Vodkas and soda all night. He walked out on his own, didnt stumble, didnt piss up a wall, but he was drinking Vodkas and soda all night. he wasnt caught driving unlicensed. He wasnt caught or seen arguing with anyone. He wasnt falling over or dragging women in the gutter. But he was drinking vodkas and sodas all night. Im surprised and disappointed the brand of Vodka wasnt mentioned.
Dont allow the alcoholic with the vendetta against us, to continue. Dont feed him. Ban his blog, and please stop reading the garbage, designed to suck the gullible in and create the frenzy.
i dont give a **** about Watts, the grub needs to be rubbed out.
But Im shattered for Carney. I know a little about dealing with the bottle, and I can tell you, it ain't easy stopping. Its easier going cold turkey off smokes after puffing away fro 20 years. Trust me.
So Im not ready to crucify Carney. Especially if his only crime was to break his promise and get sucked into another drink. But Im also doubting he was drinking that much (until 4am), although he may have been out until that hour.
What i am ready to do is completely ban and push for a complete ban of the particular newspaper and its sports journalists, who make up stories without presenting facts, to whip up the frenzy you are now seeing.
I ask every one of my fellow Roosters fans, patience is required with Carney here. And I dont mean everything's OK. But theres no need to sack him. We must stand him down from playing and ensure under a duty of care, we fix him. As much as it takes, as long as it takes. If we want to break this cycle we are seeing across league, then we must break 2 things - the culture and the beatups.
A man's career isnt at risk here (unless of course you claim to write for a newspaper). His life on the other hand is.
Sackings alone wont help stop a man from destroying himself.
And feeding the frenzy from clueless red faced retards, doesnt make anything better either.
So again I ask my fellow Rooster fans and fellow human beings, take the time to listen to the kid before we condemn.
And ban the obvious rag and its pathetic "writers".
Start today. Take that paper from your desk and kitchen areas and bin it. Delete the bookmark from your browsers and add the address to the blocked list on your internet filters.
Last year Carney was the pinup for the game. And the rags made a motza from that fact.
This year he's the pinup for the problems in the game. And more generally the problems with young men in our society. But please, lets not feed the leeches this time.When you trust your television
what you get is what you got
Cause when they own the information
they can bend it all they want
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The true test for this Great Club is how it deals with Carney. The clubs pulse will be felt beating stronger than ever or weakest before death depending on how they address the Carney situation. Especially given the inflammation it has received in the media.Alcohol never solved any life problems.....then again neither did milk.
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Originally posted by melon.... View PostClearly youre not too bright. Im not excusing what Carney has done you imbecile. Im condemning the sensationalism your paper promotes.
If my child was a rat bag at school, I would expect him/her to be punished accordingly. No questions asked. But if he was targeted because of who his family is or because some sycophant is going to get his jollies doing it, there will be questions asked and consequences faced by those that went over the top.Your paper is going over the top on Carney, when Watts is the one they should be crucifying.
But you never really liked league did you?
4 pages in the back on Carney? Come on. Even an imbecile like you should get it.
get this through your fat head - Carney is a peabrained, drunken, lying, ****wit
He is taking the piss and dragging this club down
It's not the papers making it up, you dumb****
Get your head out of your ass
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Originally posted by Tries Off Kicks View Postthat statement right there demonstrates how deluded and retarded you are
get this through your fat head - Carney is a peabrained, drunken, lying, ****wit
He is taking the piss and dragging this club down
It's not the papers making it up, you dumb****
Get your head out of your ass
You forgot .....Carney is also an addict.Alcohol never solved any life problems.....then again neither did milk.
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Originally posted by melon.... View PostThe true test for this Great Club is how it deals with Carney. The clubs pulse will be felt beating stronger than ever or weakest before death depending on how they address the Carney situation. Especially given the inflammation it has received in the media.
We live in a country where a large chunk of society relies on alcohol as a means of socialising. Only a dickhead would expect Carney to live a solitary life at home whilst all his mates go out drinking.
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Hadley this morning on the radio said he'd phoned Gallop and Gallop is angry.
Well welcome to the job of being the big boss of the NRL and in control of clubs and the human being players within them...Mr Gallop.
Hadley was calling our club "The Zoo" again, said "The Roosters are fostering a culture of drinking at Kings Cross pubs and clubs" or something like that.
He seems to dislike The Roosters with a passion.
Seems to love The Eels and 'hate' The Roosters.
He said Mr Politis will be back from overseas on Thurs or Friday, and then he proceeded to virtually tell Mr Politis what to do...ring Gallop and have Carney stood down, and to stop saying "These are fine young men who've done nothing wrong"...para.
Jake of course did nothing wrong in that nightclub case.
Charged by the cops, pity they hadn't viewed the CCTV first.
Didn't hit anyone, let alone a woman...as the CCTV clearly showed.
Hadley was ranting about that and attacking the Roosters then too.
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I think it's f**king sickening how Carney's name has been drawn into this repeatedly. Articles have stated there were others there, including Roosters players. In all likelihood was just a normal night out.
Ok, so Carney may or may not have been drinking, he probably shouldn't have but hardly a crime. Evidence so far is from random 'onlookers' who claim he was drinking vodka lemonades. How the fark would they know, they look the same as lemonade! There has been no claim that he was even drunk let alone doing anything wrong.
So f**kwit journos drag his name into this, not only dobbing him in which imo is pissweak enough, but implicating in a far far more serious issue. The articles of course say stuff like "Carney is not believed to have been involved in the incident" but you have headlines like "4AM BENDER. INSIDE WATTS AND CARNEY'S ILL FATED NIGHT". Most casual fans and non-fans will now think Carney was involved in assaulting a woman. I can guarantee I'll get some f**kwit come up to me this week bagging Roosters because Todd Carney bashed a girl.
The journalism standards in this country continue to sink to ridiculous new lows. I'm sure lowlifes like Rothfield will be happy to ruin this bloke's career on nothing but past form.
I haven't bought the telegraph in years. I won't be visiting any News Ltd websites any more where I can help it. I suggest you all take melon's advice and do the same. I will also be emailing the club asking if they will be taking any sort of stand against the bullshit that constantly comes out of that rag. Some of the headlines must surely come bloody close to defaming Carney.
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Originally posted by fletch View Postinteresting in today's blog Rothfield stated he has been the subject of legal action from David Gallop so it appears the NRL are also getting fed up with his rants.
In this it would appear that Carney is as much to blame as Watts for Watts appalling act.
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Originally posted by Tries Off Kicks View Postthat statement right there demonstrates how deluded and retarded you are
get this through your fat head - Carney is a peabrained, drunken, lying, ****wit
He is taking the piss and dragging this club down
It's not the papers making it up, you dumb****
Get your head out of your ass
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Originally posted by melon.... View PostBeetroot face even claims he was drinking Vodkas and soda in front of everyone. Someone saw him. An insider. No names, Carney wasnt intoxicated, but according to the papers he was drinking Vodkas and soda all night. He walked out on his own, didnt stumble, didnt piss up a wall, but he was drinking Vodkas and soda all night. he wasnt caught driving unlicensed. He wasnt caught or seen arguing with anyone. He wasnt falling over or dragging women in the gutter. But he was drinking vodkas and sodas all night. Im surprised and disappointed the brand of Vodka wasnt mentioned.
I couldnt agree more. The real story is Watts, but they cant say too much about that so lucky for them Carney was there and they go to town over Carney.
Yes, there is no evidence he was drinking and NO bad behaviour. So all the dickhead, evil sensationalist gutter press wants him sacked.
Provide evidence you low cnuts that he was on the piss or crawl back in your holes.
What Carney did was not great, not going to Gosford, he let his mates down. That is something that can be resolved, but not by sacking him.
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Originally posted by supermario View PostYeah i heard burbon becky mention drinking until 4 am.
But the police report mentions that the Watts incident occured at 4 am in his unit in coogee............
flies in the face of what the tellucrap reported. if the watts incident occured at 4am, was TC out on his own in the cross at that time or are things being blown up and twisted......me thinks the latter.
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