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  • #16
    Braith certainly needs to lift his workrate instead of trying miracle plays on that left fringe.

    Pearce is down on form.

    Carney seems like he is not even trying. His defence is non-existant. There's no excuse for that.

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    • #17
      I understand the Anasta agenda but I wouldn't just use stats as a guide.

      People are praising Symonds looking at his stats last week he ran 7 times for 39 metres.

      Against the Bulldogs another chookpen favourite Aubusson ran for a whopping 39 metres from 6 runs. Aubusson also ran for a huge 57 metres from 7 runs v Manly. Also against Souffs he ran for 42 from 7 runs.

      In all cases both players played as the other 2nd rower and played almost 80 minutes.

      So where is the critcism for Aubusson and Symonds?

      The way we play our edge forwards is different to other teams. Our centres and wingers make plenty of yardage and our backrowers are more just an extension of our attack.

      We don't use them as battering rams like other teams.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by fitzy View Post
        I understand the Anasta agenda but I wouldn't just use stats as a guide.

        People are praising Symonds looking at his stats last week he ran 7 times for 39 metres.

        Against the Bulldogs another chookpen favourite Aubusson ran for a whopping 39 metres from 6 runs. Aubusson also ran for a huge 57 metres from 7 runs v Manly. Also against Souffs he ran for 42 from 7 runs.

        In all cases both players played as the other 2nd rower and played almost 80 minutes.

        So where is the critcism for Aubusson and Symonds?

        The way we play our edge forwards is different to other teams. Our centres and wingers make plenty of yardage and our backrowers are more just an extension of our attack.

        We don't use them as battering rams like other teams.
        nice spin doctoring.. Maybe mention he made 36 tackles.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by fitzy View Post
          I understand the Anasta agenda but I wouldn't just use stats as a guide.

          People are praising Symonds looking at his stats last week he ran 7 times for 39 metres.

          Against the Bulldogs another chookpen favourite Aubusson ran for a whopping 39 metres from 6 runs. Aubusson also ran for a huge 57 metres from 7 runs v Manly. Also against Souffs he ran for 42 from 7 runs.

          In all cases both players played as the other 2nd rower and played almost 80 minutes.

          So where is the critcism for Aubusson and Symonds?

          The way we play our edge forwards is different to other teams. Our centres and wingers make plenty of yardage and our backrowers are more just an extension of our attack.

          We don't use them as battering rams like other teams.
          You make a valid point.. however Aubusson and Symonds produce quality work although in small quantities. They hit gaps and run smart lines in attack, something Anasta doesnt seem to be doing atm.

          In saying that, Aubusson and Symonds also have to lift their work rate and ive been critical of the former previously over the lack of metre gainage.. we need the whole team to be contributing in offense. Using backs for dummy half runs gets predictable and can get shut down quite easily

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post
            nice spin doctoring.. Maybe mention he made 36 tackles.
            What spin doctoring? He has been much better than Aubusson this season, where is the criticism for him?

            People are baging his running stats every week but he is on par if not better than his opposite, his tackling numbers are as good as well. Not to mention how many times he sets up tries and line breaks.

            The problem is people have no clue about how we play compared to other teams.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by fitzy View Post
              What spin doctoring? He has been much better than Aubusson this season, where is the criticism for him?

              People are baging his running stats every week but he is on par if not better than his opposite, his tackling numbers are as good as well. Not to mention how many times he sets up tries and line breaks.

              The problem is people have no clue about how we play compared to other teams.
              Maubs role is very specific, and he's done it too a tee since being moved to the backrow last season by Brian......and that's to play extremely wide as a link man between the halves and SKD, he lead the try assists and linebreaks for second rowers last season, job done. Problem is since Braith was moved from 6 to accomodate Carney we now have the same thing on the other side in a similar role, but we just can't carry it - we need a hitup man, and Bwaiff can do hitups he just refuses to and plays as a second five-eighth which hurts us.

              Oh well.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by TheLoneRooster View Post
                Braith was not the most prominent passenger last night in my opinion.

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                What does prominent mean? He is the most expensive, the most hyped, the "next freddy", the captain.........4 hitups as a second rower is pretty "prominent"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by fitzy View Post
                  What spin doctoring? He has been much better than Aubusson this season, where is the criticism for him?

                  People are baging his running stats every week but he is on par if not better than his opposite, his tackling numbers are as good as well. Not to mention how many times he sets up tries and line breaks.

                  The problem is people have no clue about how we play compared to other teams.
                  You asked why Symonds doesn't get the criticism Anasta does and that is because he is a workhorse in defense. Same with Maubs.. Anasta is neither.. He is a second row in number only, he is really second 5/8 or maybe he is a 3/8. With his low work rate in attack and defense it places too much burden on the other players to pick up the slack that it is no wonder they may not have such an impact in attack.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post
                    You asked why Symonds doesn't get the criticism Anasta does and that is because he is a workhorse in defense. Same with Maubs.. Anasta is neither.. He is a second row in number only, he is really second 5/8 or maybe he is a 3/8. With his low work rate in attack and defense it places too much burden on the other players to pick up the slack that it is no wonder they may not have such an impact in attack.
                    Just looking at those stats again.

                    This season Aubusson has made 89 tackles and 224 metres.

                    Anasta has made 78 tackles and 200 metres.

                    I wouldn't say those stats indicate that Aubusson is a "workhorse".

                    So I say again where is the criticism for Aubusson?

                    I keep saying it we play different to other teams. We don't go two wide and just hit a battering ram.

                    We rely on our backs for plenty of yardage and our backrowers are almost like 2nd 5/8s on the edges.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Madduke View Post

                      Anasta is a nice guy but then so is the pope but Ratzinger would not be too good in the second row.

                      On an Flakvierling gun maybe but not in the second row.
                      lmao......Benny was the nuts with a stick grenade too.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by rcptn View Post
                        And how many minutes did Braith play?

                        And the reason I bought it up is that it's now 2 weeks in a row that his workrate has been pathetic.
                        You know the answer to your question and I agree that Anasta's workrate is pathetic. However, I don't see Anasta as a typical back rower whereas I do see FPN as one and FPN did SFA against the worriers. Couple that with other passengers and trouble arises.
                        "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                        Thomas Jefferson

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by captaincaveman View Post
                          What does prominent mean? He is the most expensive, the most hyped, the "next freddy", the captain.........4 hitups as a second rower is pretty "prominent"
                          See my reply to rcptn directly above.
                          "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                          Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by fitzy View Post
                            What spin doctoring? He has been much better than Aubusson this season, where is the criticism for him?

                            People are baging his running stats every week but he is on par if not better than his opposite, his tackling numbers are as good as well. Not to mention how many times he sets up tries and line breaks.

                            The problem is people have no clue about how we play compared to other teams.
                            A dear with no eyes....

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by fitzy View Post
                              What spin doctoring? He has been much better than Aubusson this season, where is the criticism for him?

                              People are baging his running stats every week but he is on par if not better than his opposite, his tackling numbers are as good as well. Not to mention how many times he sets up tries and line breaks.

                              The problem is people have no clue about how we play compared to other teams.
                              you are 100% correct. But let them sook about workrate and stats...demanding we sack half the side after a loss seems to get their rocks off. It's all irrelevant when we drop the ball more often than not anyway.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by adamkungl View Post
                                you are 100% correct. But let them sook about workrate and stats...demanding we sack half the side after a loss seems to get their rocks off. It's all irrelevant when we drop the ball more often than not anyway.
                                If you understood football you probably would get it.
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