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  • Wins go with the territory

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/...-1225903596322

    * Warren Ryan
    * From: The Courier-Mail
    * August 11, 2010 12:00AM

    THE Roosters-Dragons match at the SCG was absorbing, but the losers had an opportunity to learn a lot more about their game than the winners.

    Was it a premiership pointer? Yes, providing the coaching staff at Bondi are prepared to admit their game has shortcomings and do something about them.

    The Dragons bounced back to form with a typical low-mistake - three in each half - game built on superb advantage line surges off dummy-half Dean Young and rock-solid defence. That they murdered the Chooks for territory is an understatement.

    Roosters coach Brian Smith gave an emphatic thumbs down to the question of whether his team played too laterally, hinting at the folly of engaging the Dragons in a forward battle.

    Maybe he didn't want to signal what areas need improvement or perhaps he genuinely believes he hasn't got the pack to take on the Kogarah boys. But if he thinks that, he's already fighting out of the loser's corner because there's no soft way to win big games.

    The Roosters' error rate was diabolical for such an important game. Last week it was 12 against the Eels but Parramatta also made 12, which negated the problem. This week though, it was 14 on my count. Others had it higher - one suggested only 21 of 38 sets were completed.

    The Roosters defended their errors stoically, but you can't win by staving off defeat.

    Clean breaks by Ben Creagh for a try and prop Michael Weyman for a half-field gallop late in the game told the story of players who had lost defensive power in their tackles through self-inflicted overload.

    Wayne Bennett claimed that some of the Roosters' errors were forced upon them by good St George Illawarra defence, but that only half tells the story. The Dragons defence was able to advance and pressure the Roosters into error due to a serious design fault in the Roosters strategy. In short, they failed to roll the Dragons defence back.

    There was no comparison in the two teams' ability to surge across the advantage line. Young's dummy-half performance for the Dragons in bringing his big men on to flat passes at speed as he came sharply out of the focal point was so effective it was almost in the category of an exhibition.

    Roosters hooker Jake Friend is reasonably dangerous individually, but hasn't developed the same cohesive advantage line assault with his pack.

    To emphasise the imbalance in ground-gaining, which is the building block for any lateral success, the telltale figures reveal the Dragons had 125 play-the-balls in the Roosters' half while the Bondi boys poked their noses over halfway for 52.

    The Roosters will never be in the box seat territorially against St George unless they play a game that puts them there.

    If success against not so formidable defences has lured the Roosters into thinking there is an easy way to play, they're in danger of outsmarting themselves. The sooner they clear their heads of that myth, the quicker the recovery will be.

    LAST week I mentioned that the Titans, the quiet achievers, had an opportunity to play their way into the top four for a home semi-final.

    Well, it's come quicker than expected with the shock loss in overtime by the Tigers to a depleted South Sydney line-up.

    The Tigers were in fourth spot, but Gold Coast have now nudged ahead of them on points difference. Both teams are on 28 points, but it's Titans (+5) with a skinny seven-point lead over the Tigers (-2).

    From here on, the ball is in their court. They'll go neck and neck for wins and points over the next month. However, if either of them drop a game there are three teams on 26 points ready to pounce.

    Two of them have better points differences. Manly (+76), Brisbane (+49) and the Warriors (-2) are still a chance.

    There's a lot to like about the Titans' never-say-die attitude.

    Their round 7 win over Manly at Brookvale convinced me there was a special quality about them.

    They were physically hammered and overpowered, outplayed and behind on the scoreboard, but had hung in with tries against the flow.

    Somehow, Nathan Friend and Preston Campbell, the two smallest men on the field, found something extra in the dying seconds and put a try under the posts for what seemed an impossible 24-22 victory.

    Coach John Cartwright left scratching his head about the result, but it reinforced what he already knew about his men. They are mentally tough.

  • #2
    thats a very concise analysis by the wok....and pretty much spot on.

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    • #3
      Roosters hooker Jake Friend is reasonably dangerous individually, but hasn't developed the same cohesive advantage line assault with his pack.
      Exactly what I believe to be one of our two biggest problem apart from errors. Our fate in the finals will be determined by our ability to get a couple passes wide to force the opposition to uncompress their defence. Friend needs to own the dummy half position and tell the likes of Perrett and Mini to f-off when the dummy half run isn't on.

      Our other problem is Pearce doesn't seem to understand the value of a repeat set in tiring the opposition forwards and giving ours a break. He is too busy trying to get 50 points on the scoreboard with all-or-nothing plays instead of ensuring a win with controlled possession.

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      • #4
        The Wok knows footy as good as anyone, hes spot on, We will play the Merge in the GF, and I think we will be able to improve enough to beat them given an even share of the ball and field position.

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        • #5
          The majority of our errors were unforced. Dragons fans claim that their defense forced our errors, but I can't see how some of our dropped balls were the result of Dragons defense

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          • #6
            we have struggled this year against teams that get up in our faces with a fast moving defensive line, and until we learn some respect for possesion of the football we will have trouble beating St Merge.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fletch View Post
              we have struggled this year against teams that get up in our faces with a fast moving defensive line, and until we learn some respect for possesion of the football we will have trouble beating St Merge.
              We did up until Carney moved to 5/8th during the Warriors game which was our turning point. We are now capable of spreading the ball quick enough to force most teams to spread their defence, which also brings our forwards and smaller men into play around the ruck.

              Saints have shown us that these touch footy tactics will only get us so far. We need to go the extra step of controlling the ruck and controlling possession.

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              • #8
                Did Wok also notice how offside the Dragqueens were and how 90% of Dean Youngs passes were farking forward.The carnnts wont get away with that shyte when the semis come,because the pocket ref wont be a nobody.Some one like Shayne Hayne will punish alot of that.Any way as the days get hotter the dragqueens will melt.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ghost View Post
                  Did Wok also notice how offside the Dragqueens were and how 90% of Dean Youngs passes were farking forward.The carnnts wont get away with that shyte when the semis come,because the pocket ref wont be a nobody.Some one like Shayne Hayne will punish alot of that.Any way as the days get hotter the dragqueens will melt.
                  This is what frustrated me all game. They got pinged once or twice for offside and then it was like the refs couldn't be bothered after that. I can't recall one forward pass call yet I sounded like a parrot calling forward passes all game. They have been getting away with it all year and nothing will change in the semis. Everyone should get onto Talkin' Sport when Billy H is on next (I think tomorrow) and ask why they keep getting away with it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ghost View Post
                    Did Wok also notice how offside the Dragqueens were and how 90% of Dean Youngs passes were farking forward.
                    Spot on. Virtually every single pass was 'line ball'. A good many were distinctly forward.

                    Very, very annoying.
                    FONK

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                    • #11
                      I have little doubt that poor refereeing will have a big say in the finals. Last weekend we already saw the ref reluctant to give a blatant penalty to the Tigers which would have eliminated the bunnies from top 8 contention, and then reluctant to call a blatant forward pass in the bunnies winning try.

                      Then there was a similar game with Ben Cummings making up new rules to keep the Raiders alive and well.

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