Rothfield vs NRL

[Guest]

It's click bait for morons and you swallowed it, hook, line and sinker.

Chook.

I thought you had me on ignore ****lips. Couldn't stay away from me dude?

[stephenj]

I do think gallens fine was an ambient claim?

[Johnny.]

I do think gallens fine was an ambient claim?

Not wishing to correct you with any malice but the term you are looking for is ambit claim.

As you know it means to tend an offer so outlandish that a more reasonable counter offer will be acceptable. So the 'offer' to Gallen to pay 50k resulted in a lower, more reasonable offer, from the NRL. That will be negotiated down to a swear jar contribution as the days progress.

[Chook Norris]

I think Rothfield is generally a moron, but he has it right this time and I don't care whether he is 6 months late or 2 years.

The issue here is not just that this dickhead belted a woman, but importantly $ouff$ and the NRL buried their heads in the sand promoting inconsistency.

This coupled with the facts that this dickhead lied about his intentions regarding approp charity work and simply replied I was too busy when asked why he did not complete courses that he was obliged to complete.

This guy should have the book thrown at him, not because he belted a woman, but because he belted a woman and his attitude was basically "so what, who gives a f"

Not to mention his smug pathetic look on his face as he exited the courts to face TV cameras, realising how lightly he got off

Bloke needs to be suspended for at least 6 months +

[Guest]

NRL boss Dave Smith says the league's reaction to South Sydney rising star Kirisome Auva'a's assault of his ex-girlfriend does not smack of double standards.

The same day the NRL maintained a tough stance and stood by their decision to fine Paul Gallen $50,000 - albeit with $15,000 now suspended - for an abusive tweet, Smith said they needed more information to decide whether to further sanction Auva'a.

Smith confirmed Auva'a had pleaded guilty in May over the drunken attack in which the Rabbitohs player hurled his ex-girlfriend into a wall.

The woman suffered cuts and bruises in the January attack in Melbourne.

Auva'a copped a $2000 fine and week ban from off-season training from the Rabbitohs earlier this year but played for the rest of the year, savouring South Sydney's NRL title triumph last month.

"I think they (Gallen and Auva'a) are two very different issues to be fair," he told Fox Sports TV when accused of double standards.

Auva'a avoided a conviction but was handed a two-year good behaviour bond and fined $3000 after pleading guilty to recklessly causing injury and criminal damage in a Melbourne court last Friday.

The NRL Integrity Unit spoke with South Sydney officials on Tuesday.

But Smith said it may take days to decide Auva'a's fate.

"We are trying to gather all the information so we can make a considered decision," Smith said.

"We are very clear on what the findings of the court and judge were but the detail beneath that is quite important to the deliberation.

"And we are still waiting on some information from the Victorian courts.

"Hopefully we will have that in the next day or two."

Smith on Tuesday said in a statement regarding Gallen's fine review that the NRL "must protect our brand and ensure we set a good example to children and other fans".

"So we will continue to be vigilant against any behaviour which brings the game into disrepute," he said.

Smith could not see any parallels with Gallen and Auva'a's cases.

"The Souths player was charged in January, pleaded guilty in May and convicted on Friday," Smith said.

"We are currently talking to Souths and considering all the facts.

"You have to be very careful (about) the balance between a criminal procedure, the individual's rights and our desire and obligations as a game to make sure we stamp hard on anything to do with domestic violence.
"That's an issue that is underway but ... they are very different (to Gallen's case)."

Former NSW winger Blake Ferguson has not played since his registration was suspended by the NRL for "repeated behavioural issues involving the abuse of alcohol" after he was charged with the indecent assault of a woman in June 2013.

He was eventually found guilty in December 2013.

"Domestic violence is something that we take very, very seriously," Smith told Fox Sports on Tuesday.

"Previous actions around players have demonstrated that.

"It's something we take very seriously as we try to widen the appeal of this game, make it more inclusive not less inclusive."


Sounds like they'll wait till the media goes away and brush it under the carpet..... We couldn't have $ouff$ going without..

[Guest]

You're certainly not turk.

Chook.

He's certainly not Tyler.

Turk.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

The Astonisher gang have declared war on Smith until they get him out of that gig.

Hate their modus operandi but be glad when they get their man this time.

No passion...no integrity.

[007]

Not wishing to correct you with any malice but the term you are looking for is ambit claim.

As you know it means to tend an offer so outlandish that a more reasonable counter offer will be acceptable. So the 'offer' to Gallen to pay 50k resulted in a lower, more reasonable offer, from the NRL. That will be negotiated down to a swear jar contribution as the days progress.

Layman’s terms – now I get it. That was an excellent response by the way.

Not a fan of Gallen but $50,000 for a twitter (who would want to be on that ‘shit’ anyway? – whoops there’s a few hundred dollars fine coming my way) outburst, I wonder what he would have got for throwing his wife against a garage door. Certainly not $2,000 and a premiership ring.

If Auva'a doesn’t get at least a 12 months suspension I’ll be very disappointed but not the least bit surprised.

Like Todd Carney, Ferguson has all the talent in the world and I hope he realizes this; he could well be the x factor for the Roosters.

[Johnny.]

Layman’s terms – now I get it. That was an excellent response by the way.

Thanks but I honestly didn't think I "dumbed it down."

[Billy Gunn]

unfortunately his motives are not on the women who were assaulted, but as long as he gets a lengthy suspension i'm happy

[Johnny.]

unfortunately his motives are not on the women who were assaulted, but as long as he gets a lengthy suspension i'm happy

First part - Rothfield
Second Part - Auv'ua.

[Guest]

It is a pity that Phil "Buzz" Rothfield was not as vocal about violence towards women from a small fraction of the rugby league players involved in our game earlier in the season when such a statement would have been better served. Perhaps this is a case of better late than never and regarding this topic a push to suspend violent players is appropriate at any time but I must wonder why the media chose to ignore such a topic for a numbers of months until the season had finished. Perhaps this is a controversial enough topic to get through part of the off-season to continue to sell newspapers?

It does also appear that the catalyst to such an article was that his good friend and captain of his beloved Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks Paul "Gal" Gallen was served quite a hefty fine for inappropriate language used on facebook and Mr Rothfield has questioned the severity of the fine in relation to the punishment of the young South Sydney Rabbitohs player but would such a highlight of inadequate punishment regarding violence towards women have been made had his friend Paul Gallen not been served a large fine? I do not believe that Mr Rothfield would have used Blake "Fergo" Ferguson as the main example had Paul Gallen not received a large enough fine.

[mightyrooster]

It is a pity that Phil "Buzz" Rothfield was not as vocal about violence towards women from a small fraction of the rugby league players involved in our game earlier in the season when such a statement would have been better served. Perhaps this is a case of better late than never and regarding this topic a push to suspend violent players is appropriate at any time but I must wonder why the media chose to ignore such a topic for a numbers of months until the season had finished. Perhaps this is a controversial enough topic to get through part of the off-season to continue to sell newspapers?

It does also appear that the catalyst to such an article was that his good friend and captain of his beloved Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks Paul "Gal" Gallen was served quite a hefty fine for inappropriate language used on facebook and Mr Rothfield has questioned the severity of the fine in relation to the punishment of the young South Sydney Rabbitohs player but would such a highlight of inadequate punishment regarding violence towards women have been made had his friend Paul Gallen not been served a large fine? I do not believe that Mr Rothfield would have used Blake "Fergo" Ferguson as the main example had Paul Gallen not received a large enough fine.

Precisely. 100% correct.

[Guest]

He's certainly not.

Turk.

Yeah he's just another iteration of spastic you who thinks it's funny to use peoples real names. You're the type of retard who deserves to be Russel Packered.

Chook.

[Guest]

I thought you had me on ignore ****lips. Couldn't stay away from me dude?

You're on my point and laugh list.

Chook.