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  • #46
    Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
    Wow.

    Thank you for proving my point.

    Souffs play a boring ball control style knowing they'll get lots of penalties.

    We can't afford to play that brand of footy because we receive a staggeringly small number of penalties.

    of course none of that matters or makes a difference to some on here

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
      Wow.

      Thank you for proving my point.

      Souffs play a boring ball control style knowing they'll get lots of penalties.

      We can't afford to play that brand of footy because we receive a staggeringly small number of penalties.
      How long will the excuses for season 2014 continue. Let's move on, 2014 is done and Souths are the premiers. If we don't start looking forward rather than back, 2015 will be a repeat of 2014.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by TDK View Post
        How long will the excuses for season 2014 continue. Let's move on, 2014 is done and Souths are the premiers. If we don't start looking forward rather than back, 2015 will be a repeat of 2014.
        I disagree TDK. If you do not take the opportunity to analyse the past and understand what went wrong, then you will not be able to learn from that experience and hence be able to move forward.
        Armed with all of these damning statistics, I suggest we present them to the NRL in a public manner so it can at least get acknowledged.
        Other fans and teams will see this as whinging but who cares at the end of the day as long as we get our message across???

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        • #49
          Originally posted by JAF View Post
          I disagree TDK. If you do not take the opportunity to analyse the past and understand what went wrong, then you will not be able to learn from that experience and hence be able to move forward.
          Armed with all of these damning statistics, I suggest we present them to the NRL in a public manner so it can at least get acknowledged.
          Other fans and teams will see this as whinging but who cares at the end of the day as long as we get our message across???
          Logic has never been one of TOK's strongest points.

          Other fans will not see it as us whinging because it has affected them as much as any other team.

          Souths were given the leg up this year. The statistics are damning and it means that 15 other teams were not on the same level playing field.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by gragra View Post
            WE handled it better in 2013 because we were a better team. May be this year's explanation is souths successfully milked 2 penalties a game with the likes of Luke and others staying down. And to compound the difference Robbos edict that we don't lie down may have cost us 1 penalty per game equal to 26 penalties for the season, which would then take us up to the other clubs average for the season. I still think Robbos edict is wrong because we don't get the penalties we deserve. The flow on effect is greater fatigue in defending , less opportunities to attack....This explanation doesn't explain the 10 to 20 year longterm lack of penalties...................
            And therein lies the problem. Just because we don't lie down, doesn't mean that we shouldn't get penalties. Our blokes are getting hit squarely in the head and we still don't get the penalties. That's down to the refs. They should be on top of this. Yet, when one of our blokes can 'accidentally' hit a bloke in the head (Maloney penalty in Panthers final game - after Casty no try) we get pinged straight away.

            We get pinged for the most innocuous things and it rarely happens in reverse. The stats show this to be FACT. I've never seen us play so many teams this year that had completion rates in the 80s & 90s - a lot of it I think was down to that when other teams dropped the ball, we got done for a strip. But funnily enough when we dropped it, it was rarely a strip (except the SBW one in the Cowboys game - which funnily enough everyone who hates us whinged about constantly for the next week when it was a strip and one the few strip calls we got all year).

            The rules are not being applied fairly - and not only in our games. I've been frustrated watching so many other games this year when you can tell that refs are clearly only reffing one side. I don't what the solution is, but sitting idly waiting for things to 'even out' has got knobs on it.

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            • #51
              Good post BallyChook.

              I hope the NRL reads such posts as yours - they need to
              Written and published on behalf of the Liberal Party, Queensland

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              • #52
                Originally posted by BallyChook View Post
                And therein lies the problem. Just because we don't lie down, doesn't mean that we shouldn't get penalties. Our blokes are getting hit squarely in the head and we still don't get the penalties. That's down to the refs. They should be on top of this. Yet, when one of our blokes can 'accidentally' hit a bloke in the head (Maloney penalty in Panthers final game - after Casty no try) we get pinged straight away.
                Just this part... You're actually saying that just because we don't lie down, though our players get hit on the head, we should still get a penalty in favour?

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                • #53
                  Uhm - yes. Do you think otherwise?

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                  • #54
                    Number of times less than 5 penalties received in 2014:-

                    Roosters - 10
                    Souths - Zero


                    Number of times 9 or more penalties received in 2014:-

                    Roosters - 1
                    Souths - 13


                    How is that not match fixing? And how are we as Roosters fans supposed to love the NRL when this happens?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
                      Number of times less than 5 penalties received in 2014:-

                      Roosters - 10
                      Souths - Zero


                      Number of times 9 or more penalties received in 2014:-

                      Roosters - 1
                      Souths - 13


                      How is that not match fixing? And how are we as Roosters fans supposed to love the NRL when this happens?
                      Surely that is the most telling stat. It's so obvious Rabbitohs won the GF on the back of the reffs.
                      was born a sydney roosters fanatic
                      "we're the roosters, we'll be fine"

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                      • #56
                        And so to go back to the beginning of this thread, I hope the NRL consider adjusting the punishment that is given out to the offending team when the referee penalises them.

                        Currently a team penalised for a minor indiscretion (exception - penalty conversions)
                        The non-offending team gets a 40 metre kick down-field then 6 new tackles, while the offending team has to go back another 10 metres in defence. a pretty heavy punishment. Then with 10 or more penalties for that team to face during a match it shows how much influence the referee has on the match result. (This taking into account of when, where and at what time a penalty is given)

                        Maybe the severity of the current punishment could be kept for reportable offences, and a restart of the tackle count, for stuff like the defence caught "inside the 10".

                        The less the referees impact on the game, the less controversy and the better the game.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by BallyChook View Post
                          Uhm - yes. Do you think otherwise?
                          Well...In fairness to refs refs, assuming the refs might be fair, they can't be looking at everything so you can't assume they will see and rule that a hit was on the head and with a force to do damage. The fact that these other players stay down, is to let the officials know to review it. If our players are instructed not to stay down, than that's our problem because a ref might not be looking at the time of such hit. You can't have your cake and eat it in this case. I'm with the thinking that if others do it to get away with penalties, then we should be doing it as well otherwise don't whinge.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by ROC181 View Post
                            Well...In fairness to refs refs, assuming the refs might be fair, they can't be looking at everything so you can't assume they will see and rule that a hit was on the head and with a force to do damage. The fact that these other players stay down, is to let the officials know to review it. If our players are instructed not to stay down, than that's our problem because a ref might not be looking at the time of such hit. You can't have your cake and eat it in this case. I'm with the thinking that if others do it to get away with penalties, then we should be doing it as well otherwise don't whinge.
                            Are you saying Souths 200 penalties[most in the comp] to Easts 123 [least in the comp], Is every team in the comp being disciplined when playing Easts and then undisciplined when playing Souths???? Maybe its not the refs after all???

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by turk-283 View Post
                              Are you saying Souths 200 penalties[most in the comp] to Easts 123 [least in the comp], Is every team in the comp being disciplined when playing Easts and then undisciplined when playing Souths???? Maybe its not the refs after all???
                              Gobble gobble !

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by ROC181 View Post
                                Gobble gobble !
                                You are the best at it..

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