Skd

[Guest]

Cronulla just signed Ayshford fro 2014 and 2015.....

Ahhh, those crazy Cronulla TigerSharks!

[Guest]

You are talking about a major factor in a club's finances here, you can't throw around impossible-to-define terms like "other elite 3/4s".

Also, even if you could, under your proposed arrangement, are elite 3/4s not worth the 2m that club x is will to pay them? If Easts pay Folau 1m but 600K comes under the cap, but the Broncos pay Hodges 1.5m and 800K comes under the cap, who is worth what?

That sort of a system couldn't possibly work.

It's worked for the Broncos for decades!

[Rooster_6]

If that's how you want to play it then we may aswell not have a salary cap at all.

Not at all, the salary cap is there to ensure an even (or as close to) distribution of playing talent, it shouldn't stop clubs from signing players whose value includes things other than their playing ability which at the moment it is.

[Guest]

The NRL need to give blokes Like Folau a valuation based on their playing ability. If you look at the other elite 3/4s in the game they're getting ~600k. So his valuation should be 600k, whatever he gets above that is purely for marketing.

E.g Roosters offer him 1m but only 600k comes under the salary cap.

SBW is worth 800k, if the Roosters want to pay him 2m then so be it but only 800k should come under the cap.

an absurd idea

[Rooster_6]

You are talking about a major factor in a club's finances here, you can't throw around impossible-to-define terms like "other elite 3/4s".

Also, even if you could, under your proposed arrangement, are elite 3/4s not worth the 2m that club x is will to pay them? If Easts pay Folau 1m but 600K comes under the cap, but the Broncos pay Hodges 1.5m and 800K comes under the cap, who is worth what?

That sort of a system couldn't possibly work.

It's not impossible to define other elite 3/4's by their pay packet, the NRL have all the figures in front of them.

This would only apply to players who the NRL deem to have huge marketing potential, Hodges doesn't fall into that category.

[mightyrooster]

Cronulla just signed Ayshford fro 2014 and 2015.....

Another 'great' tigers signing for them. Looks like SKD won't be a Shark now.

[Guest]

It's not impossible to define other elite 3/4's by their pay packet, the NRL have all the figures in front of them.

This would only apply to players who the NRL deem to have huge marketing potential, Hodges doesn't fall into that category.

Ridiculous - it is completely impossible. What is an "elite" 3/4? What if a coach decides 3/4s are more important than say, backrowers, so a 3/4 at a certain club is paid disproportionately more than similar calibre players at other clubs?

It's an absurd idea - there are far better solutions. Greater marquee player allowances, laxing constraints on third party deals etc. etc.

[Guest]

Ridiculous - it is completely impossible. What is an "elite" 3/4? What if a coach decides 3/4s are more important than say, backrowers, so a 3/4 at a certain club is paid disproportionately more than similar calibre players at other clubs?

It's an absurd idea - there are far better solutions. Greater marquee player allowances, laxing constraints on third party deals etc. etc.

Izzy Steggles Chicken Wings Falou it is then...

[stsae]

Izzy Steggles Chicken Wings Falou it is then...

Steggles Izzy Wings, get more wang for your pluck.

[Guest]

Izzys Wings are nice but they do not hold up to Nigel's Plum Sauce

[The Rooster Oracle]

Izzys Wings are nice but they do not hold up to Nigel's Plum Sauce

We will just have to take your word on that BAW.

[chook 56]

Izzys Wings are nice but they do not hold up to Nigel's Plum Sauce

Too much info.

[The Rooster Oracle]

Ridiculous - it is completely impossible. What is an "elite" 3/4? What if a coach decides 3/4s are more important than say, backrowers, so a 3/4 at a certain club is paid disproportionately more than similar calibre players at other clubs?

It's an absurd idea - there are far better solutions. Greater marquee player allowances, laxing constraints on third party deals etc. etc.

I do like those ideas BF. Also they need to significantly increase the 2nd tier cap. The NRL certainly need to do more things to improve our game, as most clubs are lacking in quality depth and it only hurts the spectacle on the field which is not good for TV viewers.

Now that Deans is gooooorne and McKenzie has taken over I can only see the Wallabies improving big time, which is a bit of a threat to the NRL. To counteract this the NRL need to grant NRL clubs full or partial exemptions for signing rugby union players.

[milanja]

Not at all, the salary cap is there to ensure an even (or as close to) distribution of playing talent, it shouldn't stop clubs from signing players whose value includes things other than their playing ability which at the moment it is.

That would mean knights and titans would out bid everyone with there billionaire backed clubs.

Salary cap worth for titans 5.5mil.
Actual worth 15mil. Clubs like raiders,sharks,tigers penrith and co would never get a deceng player again, they struggle to already.

[Rooster_6]

Ridiculous - it is completely impossible. What is an "elite" 3/4? What if a coach decides 3/4s are more important than say, backrowers, so a 3/4 at a certain club is paid disproportionately more than similar calibre players at other clubs?

Then the club wouldn't be a chance of signing the player in the first place so I don't see the issue.

It's an absurd idea - there are far better solutions. Greater marquee player allowances, laxing constraints on third party deals etc. etc.

I honestly think the marquee player allowance would be a joke, it works in the A-league because clubs go out and recruit players from overseas. This wouldn't happen in the NRL, Melbourne would have to make a decision on who out of their big three they would keep because guaranteed the other 2 would be poached. What if in a few years RTS & Cordner are elite international players but we only stand a chance of retaining one regardless of all the years and money we've put into their development. It's a ridiculous notion that would be out of place in the NRL.

Third party deals have already been relaxed on, they're unlimited so long as they're not club affiliated parties, they can't be any more relaxed.