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  • Smith & Robinson had the same idea.

    Hi Friends,

    I have noticed people are suggesting that Trent "Robbo" Robinson is building a structure and a squad of capable players without relying on just a handful of players to get us through matches. This is very true and I do not dispute this at all however Brian "Smithy" Smith also had this idea in place. So why is it working for one and not the other?

    Obviously we have some superior players to last season but I do believe that the main difference is that Brian Smith would drop players and change the team far too often - particularly if we had won a match - and Robinson will stick with his chosen team unless he is forced to change or can ever so slightly change a match up on the opponent.

    This approach from Robinson allows establish players to form partnerships and cohesion with other starting regulars as well as build player confidence but also requires those that get their chance to finally step in to the team that they must take that oppurtunity.

    Tinirau Arona was very poor in round one and I do believe he is no longer in the coaches plans as he has not come close to earning a recall in to first grade.

    Issac Liu, Daniel Mortimer and Dylan Napa have each stepped up when required and performed above and beyond their expectation. It is hard to play Devil's Advocate but I do not believe they could step up the way they have done had our coach not installed a culture where you must take your chance when you get it because you may not get a second one.

    I believe the days of the free rides in first grade are over during coach Robinson's era. Some may point to Shaun Kenny-Dowall but I feel that criticism is unfair. He has largely been solid all season and had one messy game which we still won. Even the best are off their game. This culture is something that Craig Bellamy has installed and the Queensland Maroons have traditionally held this as well.

    Perhaps I am reading too much in to this but it does appear that way to. Enjoy your weekend friends as they are always better when the mighty Eastern Suburbs Roosters get the win.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Braith Anasta's Wallet View Post
    Hi Friends,
    Hi friend..

    You are a very polite cove..

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    • #3
      Well said mate. All valid observations IMO.

      That was an impressive test the coach passed tonight.

      I love how he kept the defence tight, minimal changes as possible.

      He's built the combos and its paying off.



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      • #4
        Originally posted by Braith Anasta's Wallet View Post
        Hi Friends,

        I have noticed people are suggesting that Trent "Robbo" Robinson is building a structure and a squad of capable players without relying on just a handful of players to get us through matches. This is very true and I do not dispute this at all however Brian "Smithy" Smith also had this idea in place. So why is it working for one and not the other?

        Obviously we have some superior players to last season but I do believe that the main difference is that Brian Smith would drop players and change the team far too often - particularly if we had won a match - and Robinson will stick with his chosen team unless he is forced to change or can ever so slightly change a match up on the opponent.

        This approach from Robinson allows establish players to form partnerships and cohesion with other starting regulars as well as build player confidence but also requires those that get their chance to finally step in to the team that they must take that oppurtunity.

        Tinirau Arona was very poor in round one and I do believe he is no longer in the coaches plans as he has not come close to earning a recall in to first grade.

        Issac Liu, Daniel Mortimer and Dylan Napa have each stepped up when required and performed above and beyond their expectation. It is hard to play Devil's Advocate but I do not believe they could step up the way they have done had our coach not installed a culture where you must take your chance when you get it because you may not get a second one.

        I believe the days of the free rides in first grade are over during coach Robinson's era. Some may point to Shaun Kenny-Dowall but I feel that criticism is unfair. He has largely been solid all season and had one messy game which we still won. Even the best are off their game. This culture is something that Craig Bellamy has installed and the Queensland Maroons have traditionally held this as well.

        Perhaps I am reading too much in to this but it does appear that way to. Enjoy your weekend friends as they are always better when the mighty Eastern Suburbs Roosters get the win.
        Good post mate but I disagree with some of your content. Whilst Smith did appear to be building a squad of players rather than just relying on a select few, the word structure wasnt part of his plan. He much fancied the play as you see it approach. Robbo is all about structure and no frills football especially in your own half. Every player knows their role unlike under Smith. Yu just have to read the QandA from FPN this week on the roosters site. This appears to be one of the major factors in our rise this year. You ask any players in most teams and they just want to know what their role is in a game and stick to it. It's the same in most organisations. Peoples performances increase significantly when they know what's expected of them and the support they receive to get there.

        Also I wouldnt say Smith chopped and changed his team that much tbh. He kept paying the same inept players like Anasta for so long. He gave the players ample chance to form combinations. You only have to trail through some of the posts last year to see how many people were frustrated at him playing the same team.

        The long and short of it is that Smith ****ed with their heads and played mind games. Gone are those eras as these gen-yers don't take to that shit.
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        • #5
          Smith's favourite qoute

          "play what's in front of you"

          Hence our poor performances under his rule.

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          • #6
            Let's not forget that we made a grand final under Brian Smith -- and only lost because of the officiating -- so coach Robbo has a little bit to achieve yet before he can be measured against Brian Smith.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Roosterfarian View Post
              Good post mate but I disagree with some of your content. Whilst Smith did appear to be building a squad of players rather than just relying on a select few, the word structure wasnt part of his plan. He much fancied the play as you see it approach. Robbo is all about structure and no frills football especially in your own half. Every player knows their role unlike under Smith. Yu just have to read the QandA from FPN this week on the roosters site. This appears to be one of the major factors in our rise this year. You ask any players in most teams and they just want to know what their role is in a game and stick to it. It's the same in most organisations. Peoples performances increase significantly when they know what's expected of them and the support they receive to get there.

              Also I wouldnt say Smith chopped and changed his team that much tbh. He kept paying the same inept players like Anasta for so long. He gave the players ample chance to form combinations. You only have to trail through some of the posts last year to see how many people were frustrated at him playing the same team.

              The long and short of it is that Smith ****ed with their heads and played mind games. Gone are those eras as these gen-yers don't take to that shit.
              i can vouch for smiths mind games my mates son use to play for the eels ( chris Armit) and apparently smith would send them sometimes 20-30 texts each on game eve then on game day also

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              • #8
                Originally posted by morleythemauler:312585
                Originally posted by Roosterfarian View Post
                Good post mate but I disagree with some of your content. Whilst Smith did appear to be building a squad of players rather than just relying on a select few, the word structure wasnt part of his plan. He much fancied the play as you see it approach. Robbo is all about structure and no frills football especially in your own half. Every player knows their role unlike under Smith. Yu just have to read the QandA from FPN this week on the roosters site. This appears to be one of the major factors in our rise this year. You ask any players in most teams and they just want to know what their role is in a game and stick to it. It's the same in most organisations. Peoples performances increase significantly when they know what's expected of them and the support they receive to get there.

                Also I wouldnt say Smith chopped and changed his team that much tbh. He kept paying the same inept players like Anasta for so long. He gave the players ample chance to form combinations. You only have to trail through some of the posts last year to see how many people were frustrated at him playing the same team.

                The long and short of it is that Smith ****ed with their heads and played mind games. Gone are those eras as these gen-yers don't take to that shit.
                i can vouch for smiths mind games my mates son use to play for the eels ( chris Armit) and apparently smith would send them sometimes 20-30 texts each on game eve then on game day also
                He must have been on a good phone plan with unlimited texts etc.

                Possibly a package with home phone and internet too...I don't know which provider though.

                I'm with Telstra for my mobile and Optus for landline/internet at present.

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                • #9
                  I love this line from SBW

                  "I love Trent as a coach. He makes sure that defensively we are in the right spots to do our core roles but once we get down their end of the field he wants you to express yourself."

                  Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...#ixzz2WtsXxhsp

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Horry View Post
                    I love this line from SBW

                    "I love Trent as a coach. He makes sure that defensively we are in the right spots to do our core roles but once we get down their end of the field he wants you to express yourself."

                    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...#ixzz2WtsXxhsp
                    That makes Trent sound like a high school art teacher who is in to bollywood dancing and has an addiction of some sort.

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                    • #11
                      I have to agree, Robbo's theory is not dissimilar to Smith

                      the reality is the team have bought into Robbo after disowning Smith
                      "Qui audet adipiscitur"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Horry View Post
                        I love this line from SBW

                        "I love Trent as a coach. He makes sure that defensively we are in the right spots to do our core roles but once we get down their end of the field he wants you to express yourself."

                        Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...#ixzz2WtsXxhsp
                        Sounds very Smiffy like, express yourself, maaaaaaaaate.



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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Darkone View Post
                          I have to agree, Robbo's theory is not dissimilar to Smith

                          the reality is the team have bought into Robbo after disowning Smith
                          I remember they bought into Smiffy and Freddy for a season or so too.

                          Honeymoon baby.



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                          • #14
                            With Smithy we never ran with decoys and depth but this year we have heaps so i think its alot different to last yr,,,

                            Also Jason Taylor coaches our attack & Robbo takes care of our defence

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Roid Rage Rooster View Post
                              With Smithy we never ran with decoys and depth but this year we have heaps so i think its alot different to last yr,,,

                              Also Jason Taylor coaches our attack & Robbo takes care of our defence
                              I think you'll find Fitzy is our defensive coach, but both JT & Fitzy would be coaching what Robbo tells them, that's why he's the Head Coach & they are his assistant coaches!

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