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  • #31
    Originally posted by bondi-boy View Post
    Burgess is to front Cairns Magistrates Court on July 10.

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    Ferguson is also to front a court about the same time.

    He hasn't even been found guilty of any wrongdoing yet and already his NRL contract has already been deregistered.
    He hasn't just been suspended by his club and the NRL.

    Watch Burgess' contract not be deregistered, and he get a slap on the wrist.
    I guess I need to quote this again as you didn't read it the first time.

    Smith said Ferguson's registration had been suspended over repeated behavioural issues involving alcohol by the 23-year-old, who was earlier this year stood down by the Raiders, fined and ordered to undergo counselling after another drinking session with Dugan.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by bondi-boy View Post
      Burgess is to front Cairns Magistrates Court on July 10.

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      Ferguson is also to front a court about the same time.

      He hasn't even been found guilty of any wrongdoing yet and already his NRL contract has already been deregistered.
      He hasn't just been suspended by his club and the NRL.

      Watch Burgess' contract not be deregistered, and he get a slap on the wrist.
      One was a cleanskin up until this first offence, an offence related to damaging property

      The other is a repeat offender, with his latest indiscretion being a charge of sexual assault

      You're a very stupid fellow

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bondi-boy
        The first step in Blake's case is to make a clear call in relation to Origin, and tomorrow we will consult with the Raiders to determine the minimum period we would look at in terms of suspension

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        That's not what the tv news stated.
        It said his contract had been deregistered.

        If this is true;

        We have worked closely with both the NSWRL and the Canberra Raiders during this process, and there remains genuine concern for the welfare of the player. We will offer every support to address any issues but there also has to be a clear deterrent.”

        Then it's fair enough.
        Seriously dude read the SMH online.

        At least they try and stay with the facts as they unfold.

        The TV read The Tellucrapp.



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        • #34
          Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
          One was a cleanskin up until this first offence, an offence related to damaging property

          The other is a repeat offender, with his latest indiscretion being a charge of sexual assault

          You're a very stupid fellow
          Lol. I tried the subtle, simple explanation. BB didn't get it.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by stsae View Post
            Are you blind Bongdi???



            He's been suspended and fined by his club

            This is a REPEAT offence some 12 weeks later.

            And it's a NSW thing seeing that's who he's representing.

            And there's a FEMALE involved allegedly.


            Why am I bothering.

            If what you posted above is all correct, and his contract has only been suspended pending possible rehabilition, then what the Smith and the NRL are doing is fair enough.

            Thank you for posting it.

            Gotta go..the big city calls.

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            • #36
              They'll probably just replace him with his twin brother, and he'll turn out just as good. I think he's the biggest of them all.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by bondi-boy View Post
                Really?

                Why was JT arrested and locked up for trying to enter his own home, because he'd forgotten to take his front door key with him?

                http://www.silvertails.net/forum/Thr...rston-arrested

                2004

                NORTH Queensland Cowboys NRL captain Johnathan Thurston has been charged with public drunkenness after reportedly locking himself out of his house.

                Thurston, 24, was arrested as he was trying to get back into his Townsville home on Saturday, ABC radio reported.

                Cowboys chief executive Peter Parr said the rugby league club would consider disciplinary action against Thurston, but it was unlikely his captaincy was under threat.


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                His own house.
                On his own property, and the cops arrested and charged him.
                BB,

                You should know all the fact before you go shooting your mouth off. In the JT incident he was blind drunk (virtually incoherent), didn't have his house keys on him, his girlfriend was out of town, and after numerous attempts to contact someone from the Cowboys went unanswered the Police only had one remaining option, and that was to take him to a place of care (namely the watchouse) until he sobered up. In the meantime further inquiries were made and eventually someone was able to pick him up and take him home. Thurston was also not charged with a criminal offence.

                This scenario would have played out exactly the same whether it was an aboriginal NRL player, a chinese chess champion, a caucasian professional marbles player or an average joe member of the public of any race, colour, creed or religious belief. It is called a duty of care.....

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by TheOtherWreckingBall View Post
                  They'll probably just replace him with his twin brother, and he'll turn out just as good. I think he's the biggest of them all.
                  Yes they will now roll out Tom Burgess and Luke is back as well, it never stops. The Burgess family look like decent people, they would be disgusted in George, I mean, throwing a sign through a car window is deplorable, he must of been pissed, which raises further questions about his discipline. Parra by 16.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
                    One was a cleanskin up until this first offence, an offence related to damaging property

                    The other is a repeat offender, with his latest indiscretion being a charge of sexual assault

                    You're a very stupid fellow
                    Tony mate!!!! you are nearly as bad mate by calling Bondi Boy stupid.

                    Also re the willful damage of property what if that car was the only mode of transport for someone who was looking after a sick relative, disabled child, etc and the car was their life savings and it was uninsured. While it is a minor indiscretion in your eyes done by an apparent cleanskin it can have major repercussions on the victim/s. Also George Burgess is a role model for the kids and this is not the kind of behaviour that should be tolerated in the NRL. He is doing something only most of us dream about and after a win up Cairns he celebrates a hard fought win by smashing someone's car....even though no prior record his behaviour shows what a nice guy he is.


                    Secondly my understanding of the Ferguson incident was that it was not sexual assualt............it is still a serious charge but there was no sexual assult. An indecent assualt has various degrees of seriousness and can be as almost as serious as rape but can be as minor as a drunken grab on someones shoulder or breasts for even a moment it can get very blurry and be just common assualt it comes down to the perceptions of the victim and how they felt at the time however, the prosecution will have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt there was an intent...it may get downgraded to common assult depending upon the seriousness of the incident...again it may get so blurry and intent cannot be proven so charges may be dropped.

                    I havent read the papers this morning as I have been busy but from what I read last night it was n=indecent assualt. If so it has to be properly investigated and if committed for trial subject to the courts.
                    Last edited by Parkway_Drive; 06-18-2013, 01:31 PM.
                    Originally posted by boogie

                    "There's a lot of people competing for title of dumbest chookpen member such as Tommy S, Rusty, Johnny, ROC, Tobin but without a doubt you are the worst, youre thick as a brick christ this is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time you should go back to supporting the panthers"

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Parkway_Drive View Post
                      Tony mate!!!! you are nearly as bad mate by calling Bondi Boy stupid.

                      Also re the willful damage of property what if that car was the only mode of transport for someone who was looking after a sick relative, disabled child, etc and the car was their life savings and it was uninsured. While it is a minor indiscretion in your eyes done by an apparent cleanskin it can have major repercussions on the victim/s. Also George Burgess is a role model for the kids and this is not the kind of behaviour that should be tolerated in the NRL. He is doing something only most of us dream about and after a win up Cairns he celebrates a hard fought win by smashing someone's car....even though no prior record his behaviour shows what a nice guy he is.


                      Secondly my understanding of the Ferguson incident was that it was not sexual assualt............it is still a serious charge but there was no sexual assult. An indecent assualt has various degrees of seriousness and can be as almost as serious as rape but can be as minor as a drunken grab on someones shoulder or breasts for even a moment it can get very blurry and be just common assualt it comes down to the perceptions of the victim and how they felt at the time however, the prosecution will have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt there was an intent...it may get downgraded to common assult depending upon the seriousness of the incident...again it may get so blurry and intent cannot be proven so charges may be dropped.

                      I havent read the papers this morning as I have been busy but from what I read last night it was n=indecent assualt. If so it has to be properly investigated and if committed for trial subject to the courts.
                      I know if someone tried that on my Mum, Wife or Daughter I'd take major offence and would not treat it as minor.

                      IMO trying to compare a property damage charge with any assault especially involving a female is out there.

                      Both are being dealt with officially and both players have been stood down pending investigation.

                      The semantics of the word indecent assault and sexual assault really has zero to do with the context of the posts Bongdi-Boy made.

                      He was wrong. He even admitted as much.



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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by stsae View Post
                        I know if someone tried that on my Mum, Wife or Daughter I'd take major offence and would not treat it as minor.

                        IMO trying to compare a property damage charge with any assault especially involving a female is out there.

                        Both are being dealt with officially and both players have been stood down pending investigation.

                        The semantics of the word indecent assault and sexual assault really has zero to do with the context of the posts Bongdi-Boy made.

                        He was wrong. He even admitted as much.

                        Valid point Backwards and I do agree with you to a large extent.

                        But I am not saying any indecent assault is minor and I live in a family of women I am the only male and have one disabled daughter so I cannot imagine what I would do if anyone did that to my ex or my kids....probably spend more time in gaol than the offender:P

                        What I am saying is that there are many shades of gray in relation to indecent assault ranging from a stupid drunken grope for a moment through to almost a sexual assualt......and as it is a offence against a woman it should be dealt with......but what George Burgess has done should not be swept under the carpet either.

                        Alsi I wanted to tell 'Tony' .....it was indecent assualt not sexual assualt. He should know better but hey he apparently works for the Telegaffe.
                        Originally posted by boogie

                        "There's a lot of people competing for title of dumbest chookpen member such as Tommy S, Rusty, Johnny, ROC, Tobin but without a doubt you are the worst, youre thick as a brick christ this is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time you should go back to supporting the panthers"

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Parkway_Drive View Post
                          Valid point Backwards and I do agree with you to a large extent.

                          But I am not saying any indecent assault is minor and I live in a family of women I am the only male and have one disabled daughter so I cannot imagine what I would do if anyone did that to my ex or my kids....probably spend more time in gaol than the offender:P

                          What I am saying is that there are many shades of gray in relation to indecent assault ranging from a stupid drunken grope for a moment through to almost a sexual assualt......and as it is a offence against a woman it should be dealt with......but what George Burgess has done should not be swept under the carpet either.

                          Alsi I wanted to tell 'Tony' .....it was indecent assualt not sexual assualt. He should know better but hey he apparently works for the Telegaffe.
                          Agreed mate.

                          But Souffs have stood Burgess down and are working with the NRL and the police over the matter. I posted the link and quotes from the article.

                          He is not a repeat offender like Fergo. And the nature of his alleged crime while stupid is not anywhere near that of Fergos.

                          I will also note Burgess has stood up and admitted his wrong doing and apologised.

                          I know Fergo can't legally as yet. But that shows the difference in both incidents and the severity of the eventual punishment, if both are found guilty.

                          Hey I'm just glad for once our players aren't involved.



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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Parkway_Drive View Post
                            Tony mate!!!! you are nearly as bad mate by calling Bondi Boy stupid.

                            Also re the willful damage of property what if that car was the only mode of transport for someone who was looking after a sick relative, disabled child, etc and the car was their life savings and it was uninsured. While it is a minor indiscretion in your eyes done by an apparent cleanskin it can have major repercussions on the victim/s. Also George Burgess is a role model for the kids and this is not the kind of behaviour that should be tolerated in the NRL. He is doing something only most of us dream about and after a win up Cairns he celebrates a hard fought win by smashing someone's car....even though no prior record his behaviour shows what a nice guy he is.


                            Secondly my understanding of the Ferguson incident was that it was not sexual assualt............it is still a serious charge but there was no sexual assult. An indecent assualt has various degrees of seriousness and can be as almost as serious as rape but can be as minor as a drunken grab on someones shoulder or breasts for even a moment it can get very blurry and be just common assualt it comes down to the perceptions of the victim and how they felt at the time however, the prosecution will have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt there was an intent...it may get downgraded to common assult depending upon the seriousness of the incident...again it may get so blurry and intent cannot be proven so charges may be dropped.

                            I havent read the papers this morning as I have been busy but from what I read last night it was n=indecent assualt. If so it has to be properly investigated and if committed for trial subject to the courts.
                            never said it was a minor offence, was attempting to help clear the fog from bondi's brain by explaining to him why Ferguson has had his registration suspended and Burgess is still going through an investigation

                            your gibbering re what the car might have been used for or if it was insured is irrelevant

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                            • #44
                              It is not irrelevant to the victim(owner of the car)....your remarks to the victim would be gibber and disrespectful!!!!
                              Originally posted by boogie

                              "There's a lot of people competing for title of dumbest chookpen member such as Tommy S, Rusty, Johnny, ROC, Tobin but without a doubt you are the worst, youre thick as a brick christ this is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time you should go back to supporting the panthers"

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
                                never said it was a minor offence, was attempting to help clear the fog from bondi's brain by explaining to him why Ferguson has had his registration suspended and Burgess is still going through an investigation

                                your gibbering re what the car might have been used for or if it was insured is irrelevant
                                For a so called journo your comments to the owner of that damaged vehicle are disrespectful and show no regard
                                Originally posted by boogie

                                "There's a lot of people competing for title of dumbest chookpen member such as Tommy S, Rusty, Johnny, ROC, Tobin but without a doubt you are the worst, youre thick as a brick christ this is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time you should go back to supporting the panthers"

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