Anyone still unhappy with the SBW signing???

[Rocky Rhodes]

Bottom line is you need both. The "youth policy" was just a stupid buzzword.

You can't go out and buy 17 good players, the top teams always have a core of players who have come through the grades.

That doesn't mean you don't buy quality when it's needed. All of our signings this year have been OUTSTANDING.

Correctamondo. Agree with everything for said.

I've always wanted a balanced squad, that means youth and experience. Develop youth like every club but quality signing were needed. Upgrade our hooker and we can win the comp next yr.

[Headless Chook]

What a load of crap. Souffs, Cronulla and the dogs for example signed heaps of good players without any youth policy.

I suppose it depends on your idea of what constitutes a good player....if its a bunch of Tigers rejects than yes thats true. Souffs have Merritt, Everingham, Farrell, Champion, Sutton, Reynolds, Luke, McQueen, Peats, George Burgess who all debuted for them, so I would consider them an excellent example of what developing your own players can enable you to do. Canterbury are the ones a little outside the norm......excellent salary cap management to be able to continually sign name players. Although, T-rex looks like being a bust for them . Still the emergence of Reynolds, Barba, Jackson, Finucane, Klemmer and co will help them.

Obviously the best method is a mixture of developing your own and supplementing them by signing the occasional established star. Look at Melbourne, developed the big 3 and just throw a few players around them. If they weren't developing their own players at the same time there is no way they could keep their stars together. I think thats what O'Sullivan is trying to replicate with us. He's trying to give us that 'backbone' to keep us competitive year in year out.

[Headless Chook]

Bottom line is you need both. The "youth policy" was just a stupid buzzword.

You can't go out and buy 17 good players, the top teams always have a core of players who have come through the grades.

That doesn't mean you don't buy quality when it's needed. All of our signings this year have been OUTSTANDING.

Beat me to it!

[Guest]

Dig, dig dig Roz, sooner or later you will hit china.

Never seen someone who can get so lost in their own arguments.

Melbourne Signing or re-signing Slater or Smith is the same thing as far as this argument goes. Are you suggesting if Melbourne re-sign those two they are practicing their youth policy

Maybe the egg in the face is still blinding you after the Soward debate. You described him as crap and then he went on to win a premiership. At least you are consistent Roz, consistently wrong. But don't cry Roz, that is my opinion.

You mean the soward who is about to get cut by the dragons? You mean the soward who played 2 origin games and never again. That soward that you wanted ahead of pearce. The same pearce everyone is raving about and Daley has just thrown his support behind ahead of reynolds. The fact that soward threads stopped is evidence I won the debate. The princess that is now considered by many to be the most overrated player in the game behind anasta has been shown up for who he really is. All I can say is its lucky the important people at this club wouldnt have preferred soward to pearce. Maybe our attack would look a bit more like the dragons atm.

Your opposition to the youth policy was to favour the transit lounge approach that dug us into the hole we were in. It is POS and his development of our young talent over the last 5 odd years that has gotten us where we are today. You dont build a dynasty by signing over 30s. Your argument about slater and co is absurd to say the least. At what age did slater, cronk and smith start with the storm? Whats that - they debuted with the storm!? Bingo! Name a team apart from the storm that has been so consistently successful - manly. And what do these sides have in common, they build from within and only source players in key areas which they need. They focus on securing young talent and developing depth. Thats why they let go of Inglis but are still ok because they have the talent coming through to replace him.

I fail to see what you think is confused about my argument. Maybe dot points will help your thought process:
- Youth policy = developing young team and not signing players that are old and past it
- Youngest team in the comp, 4 players over 30, 6 players in 17 debuted elsewhere - tick

Your argument:
- Signing anyone and releasing reserve graders is abandoning the youth policy

It couldnt be clearer. Interesting that your proposition hasnt found one person that agrees with you yet

[Guest]

What a load of crap. Souffs, Cronulla and the dogs for example signed heaps of good players without any youth policy.

how many comps have those 2 won? Is that the same souths and cronulla that have over the past decade constantly tried to buy their way off the bottom of the table yet failed to do so time after time. It is only since their new young coaches who have evolved the culture and established depth that suddenly they have become competitive. Dont you remember cronulla paying 400+k for tupou or souths getting fletcher in a wheelchair to go with the rest of their 'genius' signings. And how consistent have they been at coming in the bottom 8 over the past decade!

[Guest]

You mean the soward who is about to get cut by the dragons? You mean the soward who played 2 origin games and never again. That soward that you wanted ahead of pearce. The same pearce everyone is raving about and Daley has just thrown his support behind ahead of reynolds. The fact that soward threads stopped is evidence I won the debate. The princess that is now considered by many to be the most overrated player in the game behind anasta has been shown up for who he really is. All I can say is its lucky the important people at this club wouldnt have preferred soward to pearce. Maybe our attack would look a bit more like the dragons atm.

Your opposition to the youth policy was to favour the transit lounge approach that dug us into the hole we were in. It is POS and his development of our young talent over the last 5 odd years that has gotten us where we are today. You dont build a dynasty by signing over 30s. Your argument about slater and co is absurd to say the least. At what age did slater, cronk and smith start with the storm? Whats that - they debuted with the storm!? Bingo! Name a team apart from the storm that has been so consistently successful - manly. And what do these sides have in common, they build from within and only source players in key areas which they need. They focus on securing young talent and developing depth. Thats why they let go of Inglis but are still ok because they have the talent coming through to replace him.

I fail to see what you think is confused about my argument. Maybe dot points will help your thought process:
- Youth policy = developing young team and not signing players that are old and past it
- Youngest team in the comp, 4 players over 30, 6 players in 17 debuted elsewhere - tick

Your argument:
- Signing anyone and releasing reserve graders is abandoning the youth policy

It couldnt be clearer. Interesting that your proposition hasnt found one person that agrees with you yet

Bingo.The debate has an overwhelming winner.

[Guest]

I think the young players that we have brought through the last couple of years, will go on to provide a great backbone to the club for years to come.

JWH, Cordner, Friend, Pearce, RTS, Kennedy, Guerra, SKD, Maubs, FPN, Tupou are the foundations of that and we should start seeing some rewards of persevering with them over the last couple of years, even though they have been tough. The youth policy could of been done better if we had never let Ryles go and booted Anasta earlier, however that can't be changed now.

The next generation of stars are the ones who will benefit most from this culture - Moga, Napa, Evans, Liu.

I think it also helped with the new additions and how well they have integrated into the squad given that some were really late arrivals. All the boys seem close and play for one another. I have noted that in every interview, they all seem to bring up working for each other as the main area they concentrate on and it is pleasing to hear.

I think that the 'youth policy', although not executed perfectly, has set us up well for the future.

[stsae]

That would not surprise me, flooded his brain.

Chook.

He's a true Rockhead Balboa.

He keeps getting put on his arse and getting back up with the same piss poor argument over and over and over again.

I bet 5 years ago he was whinging we didn't have any kids coming thru and we buy too many players.

The clubs been thru the short term pain of the last few seasons and the long term gain is just in sight. Instead of enjoying the ride, Rockhead is gonna tell us all he was right all along.

I think he needs a medal, a little ceremony and his name on a trophy.

The Rockhead Rhodes award for 2013 for the "I don't know when to quit while I'm behind award".

[Guest]

He's a true Rockhead Balboa.

He keeps getting put on his arse and getting back up with the same piss poor argument over and over and over again.

I bet 5 years ago he was whinging we didn't have any kids coming thru and we buy too many players.

The clubs been thru the short term pain of the last few seasons and the long term gain is just in sight. Instead of enjoying the ride, Rockhead is gonna tell us all he was right all along.

I think he needs a medal, a little ceremony and his name on a trophy.

The Rockhead Rhodes award for 2013 for the "I don't know when to quit while I'm behind award".

lol he's a sheeperson. Follows on from someone else's opinion and then claims it's his own. That's why he always gets hammered in debates as he can't for the life of him remember whose opinion he was talking about. He's an alt.

Chook.

[stsae]

lol he's a sheeperson. Follows on from someone else's opinion and then claims it's his own. That's why he always gets hammered in debates as he can't for the life of him remember whose opinion he was talking about. He's an alt.

Chook.

Lol, he's much dumber than I gave him credit for mate.

[Rocky Rhodes]

lol he's a sheeperson. Follows on from someone else's opinion and then claims it's his own. That's why he always gets hammered in debates as he can't for the life of him remember whose opinion he was talking about. He's an alt.

Chook.

You mean like you are hiding sheepishly behind spoofy's opinion for example. Lol farkin lol...................................lol

[Guest]

You mean like you are hiding sheepishly behind spoofy's opinion for example. Lol farkin lol...................................lol

908 posts...how many threads have you started tard? Less than 10 I bet.

Here's an opinion you can relate too....Baaaaaaaaaahhh.

Chook.

[Rocky Rhodes]

He's a true Rockhead Balboa.

He keeps getting put on his arse and getting back up with the same piss poor argument over and over and over again.

I bet 5 years ago he was whinging we didn't have any kids coming thru and we buy too many players.

The clubs been thru the short term pain of the last few seasons and the long term gain is just in sight. Instead of enjoying the ride, Rockhead is gonna tell us all he was right all along.

I think he needs a medal, a little ceremony and his name on a trophy.

The Rockhead Rhodes award for 2013 for the "I don't know when to quit while I'm behind award".

Good one spoofy. Let's cover the fact that you were and are a clueless dribbler who needs to cover his spoofy dribble by making this about me.

Award for Spoofy "Gay wank-fest wanker of the year".....Congratuations maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate.

We need a spoofy and son coming out of the closet award as well. That's be sweet and gay maaaaaaaaaaaaate.

[Rocky Rhodes]

908 posts...how many threads have you started tard? Less than 10 I bet.

Here's an opinion you can relate too....Baaaaaaaaaahhh.

Chook.

Unlike you I'm not an attention seeking craving for acceptance person. I don't need to start my own threads when there are similiar one's around.

[Bansai Pipeline]

4 games back from being out of our game for five years and he's a backrower, mate that pass was world class and one Freddy would have been proud of.

Chook.

That pass had Fittler written all over it.