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    Roosters v Rabbitohs: We trace the origins of one of rugby leagues great rivalries


    Former Sydney Roosters and South Sydney great Ron Coote. Action shots. Picture: Library Nwn Source: The Sunday Telegraph

    THINK gypsies, dead rabbits and the Gladiator's famous thumbs down signal. Admittedly, it's a strange combination.

    Oddly enough, it goes a long way towards explaining the origins of why South Sydney and the Sydney Roosters will celebrate their hate for each other for the next four days in the lead-up to the opening game of the new NRL season.

    On Thursday night at Allianz Stadium, the 104-year-old arch-rivals will contest the Ron Coote Trophy with the same intensity of a bare-knuckle boxing fight on the old Sydney wharves.

    To trace why these two teams, with their heartland either side of Anzac Parade, loathe each other so, you have to return to Coote's defection to the Roosters at the end of 1971 and the hate mail the iconic lock received.

    "The fans were livid. I remember one woman, she sent me a letter explaining how she was a gypsy and she'd put a gypsy curse on me for joining the Roosters," Coote said.

    "Worse still, another family told me they had a pet rabbit called Ronnie Coote. They reckoned when I made the switch, they ate the rabbit."

    Rod Churchill, the son of The Little Master and South Sydney Immortal Clive, reckons the fierce hatred vented from Botany to Bondi is more of a recent phenomenon.

    South Sydney co-owner Russell Crowe's Book of Feuds is a fair starting point, where the Bunnies proudly claim: "There's no escaping the cold hard facts that South Sydney were formed before Eastern Suburbs, have won far more premierships than Easts, Sydney City and Sydney Roosters combined, and have a much greater junior and fan base."

    Ouch. Roosters great Luke Ricketson remembers Crowe riling the Allianz Stadium crowd into a lather when South Sydney were re-admitted to the NRL in 2003.

    "When Rusty rang the bell, he was glaring over at our line while he was out on the field. He had a look in his eye like he was about to play," Ricketson said.

    "Then the Gladiator thumbs down years later was a bit of a sweet pay back for all the lean years Souths had been through."

    The fact these two foundation clubs played rugby league's inaugural grand final in 1908, won 14-12 by the Rabbitohs, only adds to the romance.

    Ask Bob McCarthy about Eastern Suburbs back in his day and the ex-Kangaroo forward just laughs.

    "The Roosters were never much chop until Jack Gibson came along," he said.

    Then, unprompted, the Bunnies legend suddenly changed tone. "It all probably started back in 1971 when the Roosters pinched Ron Coote, Elwyn Waters and Jim Morgan.

    "That was the beginning of the end of our great side in terms of winning competitions. Souths haven't won a competition since and Easts have won three. That broke us apart a bit.

    "Then not so long ago they started pinching our juniors too, they took Craig Wing and Braith Anasta."

    And there it is. The reason the Rabbitohs and the Roosters now wage an annual campaign billed as love to hate.

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    Hows Russle crow's share going, did he find a buyer yet? maybe he will have to pay someone to take it

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    • #3
      Pretty biased towards the vermin side of things. How about some history such as the great junior boundaries fiasco? Or the fact these grubs think their the "pride of the league" F@&k souffs and every single thing about them.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Alex View Post
        Hows Russle crow's share going, did he find a buyer yet? maybe he will have to pay someone to take it
        He won't find a buyer because football teams are not good investments lol. Anyway it was reported in the news a few weeks ago that he will end up keeping his shares because he is unlikely to get back with his wife and selling was a token of goodwill towards her, she is the lucky one, no more Rusty throwing phones and handbags after Souths losses.

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        • #5
          you would make more money by owning the lol@5ouffs.com.au web site
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          • #6
            Originally posted by soprano View Post
            Pretty biased towards the vermin side of things. How about some history such as the great junior boundaries fiasco? Or the fact these grubs think their the "pride of the league" F@&k souffs and every single thing about them.
            very one sided, pretty sure they were let back in in 02 also, but they dont mention the thumping we gave them or the 62-0 result in 96, they also fail to mention that we are the only team to play in every year of the comp.

            I have the article on the boundries nicely tucked away for whoever criticise's our juniors.

            i cant begrudge crowe for loving his team as much as we love ours, his book of feuds is a clever idea cos it is always quoted and no teams have a response to it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by redwhiteandbluetill_i_die View Post
              "Then not so long ago they started pinching our juniors too, they took Craig Wing and Braith Anasta."
              Pinch them ??
              Wing had no club to play with, he came to us after the vermin were myxamatosed out of the comp.
              Anasta came to us via Bullscum !

              As for Ron Coote, he left the Vermin in the 70's because they wouldn't pay him !

              Actually if you were able to do a stocktake over the years, I reckon the movement of players from us to them would be higher than the players we have got from them !

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              • #8
                Originally posted by milanja View Post
                very one sided, pretty sure they were let back in in 02 also, but they dont mention the thumping we gave them or the 62-0 result in 96, they also fail to mention that we are the only team to play in every year of the comp.

                I have the article on the boundries nicely tucked away for whoever criticise's our juniors.

                i cant begrudge crowe for loving his team as much as we love ours, his book of feuds is a clever idea cos it is always quoted and no teams have a response to it.
                Never read an article on that fiasco only ever heard from others. Would love a read of it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TDK View Post
                  He won't find a buyer because football teams are not good investments lol. Anyway it was reported in the news a few weeks ago that he will end up keeping his shares because he is unlikely to get back with his wife and selling was a token of goodwill towards her, she is the lucky one, no more Rusty throwing phones and handbags after Souths losses.
                  Also doesn't have to walk around wearing those hideous red and green colours anymore

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                  • #10
                    Thanks Hawkeye.
                    Thought my memory was going there for a minute.

                    Nice of them to rewrite history to suite an agenda.

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                    • #11
                      Funny how players who came to us via Souths found success and leadership. Players who then went to them from us found lawsuits, suspension, contractual bungals and wooden spoons. Fletch called them a bunch of thieves in a funny speech he made at Craig Fitzgibbon's farewell dinner. Russell Fairfax told me he considers himself an Easts man and will never cheer for them against us and someone at work ask me the other day whatever happened to Wingy..I had to stop and think for a moment because he never did fulfill his 4 year contract with Souths after complaining we only offered him 2 years...
                      "Be good enough to forgive people but don't be stupid enough to trust them again."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rooboy View Post
                        Never read an article on that fiasco only ever heard from others. Would love a read of it.
                        mate im useless at posting links but just google "turf wars roosters souths"
                        Click on bout first link and just scroll down til u see "turf wars" it will give u the jist of it.

                        Article i have is written by gould in the smh and just has a few extra speils by gus in it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hawkeye View Post
                          Pinch them ??
                          Wing had no club to play with, he came to us after the vermin were myxamatosed out of the comp.
                          Anasta came to us via Bullscum !

                          As for Ron Coote, he left the Vermin in the 70's because they wouldn't pay him !

                          Actually if you were able to do a stocktake over the years, I reckon the movement of players from us to them would be higher than the players we have got from them !
                          There current captian was a Roosters player, another captain in fletcher was a Roosters Junior and if you want to get picky another captain in Craig Field was a Paddington Junoir.

                          What other Roosters have played for Souffs in recent years?

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                          • #14
                            1954, the then NSWRL board, heavy with ex South Sydney players, decided to "re-define" the Rugby League junior boundaries which resulted in the Roosters loosing a massive amount of area and the creation of Souths Juniors, the biggest and most successful junior club on the planet!

                            Whenever a fossilised Souths player starts spewing this same old clap trap, I'd love for someone, anyone, to ask them the question about the redefining above and when Souths are going to give back the junior clubs and area they stole in 1954?

                            Chook.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by milanja View Post
                              very one sided, pretty sure they were let back in in 02 also, but they dont mention the thumping we gave them or the 62-0 result in 96, they also fail to mention that we are the only team to play in every year of the comp.

                              I have the article on the boundries nicely tucked away for whoever criticise's our juniors.

                              i cant begrudge crowe for loving his team as much as we love ours, his book of feuds is a clever idea cos it is always quoted and no teams have a response to it.
                              Add to that most games and most points.

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