2013 Back Row.

[Matty_C]

Good call.

[Guest]

Ok so firstly I said he had ball skills not that he was a ball player.

His mates call him Boz or Bozo.

So lets compare his stats with some of the other forwards in the team who were afforded many more games than Bosden, by master coach Smith.

Bosden
Played: 4
Hit Ups: 30 (average of 7.5 per game)
Run Metres: 212 (average of 53m per game)
Offloads: 1 (average of 0.25 per game)
Tackles: 72 (average of 18 per game)
Missed Tackles: 5 (average of 1.25 per game)

Aubusson
Played: 24
Hitups: 178 (average of 7.4 per game)
Run Metres: 1328 (average of 55m per game)
Offloads: 14 (average of 0.5 per game)
Tackles: 526 (average of 21 per game)
Missed Tackles: 34 (average of 1.41 per game)

Nuuasala
Played: 19
Hitups: 184 (average of 9.6 per game)
Run Metres: 1382 (average of 72m per game)
Offloads: 31 (average of 1.6 per game)
Tackles: 318 (average of 16.7 per game)
Missed Tackles: 44 (average of 2.3 per game)

Takarangi
Played: 16
Hitups: 100 (average of 6.25 per game)
Run Metres: 596 (average of 37.2m per game)
Offloads: 28 (average of 1.75 per game)
Tackles: 230 (average of 14.3 per game)
Missed Tackles: 21 (average of 1.3 per game)

Masoe
Played: 14
Hitups: 85 (average of 6 per game)
Run Metres: 862 (average of 61m per game)
Offloads: 2 (0.14 per game)
Tackles: 171 (average of 12.2 per game)
Missed Tackles: 11 (average of 0.78 per game)

There were players like Cordner, Guerra and Warea-Hargreaves whose numbers were far superior to Bosden, but as you can see there were some forwards in the team whose stats were below Bosden's, yet were picked by the coach week after week.

I feel that with his back fully fit and given a decent go in first grade he will leave many of the above in the shade (he is most certainly not average). He is a very good dependable player, the sort that our team needs and deserves to be in the first grade team ahead of some of these guys. I just hope that he gets a decent shot under coach Robinson.

Masoe was sent back to nsw cup because of the stats mentioned above, Takaraingi was a #6 at the Rabbits now converting to a back rower, Taka has a kicking game and a good offload and won us a few games when he has played, Aubbo is one our most heavily marked forwards and had a very average year as did a few regular first graders in 2012. Fpn was played out of position for most of the year by our supercoach so its unfair to compair these players to Bosden. NSW cup is were Bosden was good but its a big step up to regular Nrl.

[stsae]

Masoe was sent back to nsw cup because of the stats mentioned above, Takaraingi was a #6 at the Rabbits now converting to a back rower, Taka has a kicking game and a good offload and won us a few games when he has played, Aubbo is one our most heavily marked forwards and had a very average year as did a few regular first graders in 2012. Fpn was played out of position for most of the year by our supercoach so its unfair to compair these players to Bosden. NSW cup is were Bosden was good but its a big step up to regular Nrl.

LOL, it must be offseason when I'm agreeing with you Gherkmeister.

I have never understood the Bosden man-love on this site. Then again I've seen this repeated with many players over the years, man-love for reserve grade heroes.

He looks like an honest toiler. A lock/prop style player, a poor mans Gallen or Cordner or Crock or Eastwood or Whatnow etc.

He may make it, who knows. Clubs need these types Gullavou, Hall, Lowe, etc every club has them, the unheralded ones.

I've noticed most fail to recognize the way forward packs seem to be structured these days. 2 props, 2 back rowers on the edges working as almost extra centers and a lock who swings between playing tight and wide.

IMO we have Cordner, FPN and I believe JWH is that lock/prop style player. For the life of me I can't see Bosden ahead of those players. Arona is that type also and I'd put him in the Bosden category, average and depth.

Comparing him to Maubs, Gurrera, Takka, Symonds, Cherro style players doesn't make sense to me. All those blokes could finish a game in the centers if required thru injury. I don't see that with a bloke like Bosden.

Bench spot yes it's more than possible, although most benchies offer impact and IMO Bosden looks like a worker. IMO you don't replace your lock/prop players.

I don't know why he couldn't make an interchange prop??? Seems mobile enough, looks tough and can defend.

I hope i am wrong but I just don't see him becoming a permanent member of our 1st grade team as a starter over what we already have.

Also depends what style of player the new coach prefers and what style of forward pack he wants to run with and what type of bench he wants to use. The way I've looked at it is from this years team, or what I believe Smiff was trying to do.

The new coach may very well have other plans. Maybe Bosden will play 5/8???

[Guest]

ill say it again,
bosden is our fensom/whatbro/d. johnson
give him the no. 13 jumper and dont take it off him unless he gets injured.

[Guest]

cordner 13, guerra 11, sbw 12.
Fpn and taka on the bench with aubbo 18th man.

bit scepticle on taka defensive reads we cant have one on each side running out of thw line and hitting oppositions ie taka and sbw

taka needs to work on hisbdefwnce vastly before being considered fg materail...

huh??'' :-/

[stsae]

ill say it again,
bosden is our fensom/whatbro/d. johnson
give him the no. 13 jumper and dont take it off him unless he gets injured.

In front of Cordner???

[Guest]

In front of Cordner???

agreed.
give bosden the no. 12 jersey

[stsae]

agreed.
give bosden the no. 12 jersey

But he's a lock/prop isn't he???

[Guest]

But he's a lock/prop isn't he???

hes a lock playing with a second rowers number on his back.
just like anthony whatbro wears the no. 11

[stsae]

hes a lock playing with a second rowers number on his back.
just like anthony whatbro wears the no. 11

Yes true but they use Trex and Stewart wider each side.

Cordner and Bosden are players who play a similar tighter role from what I've seen, like Watnow.

Remember we have FPN who will probably get a gig in that role also.

[Guest]

Yes true but they use Trex and Stewart wider each side.

Cordner and Bosden are players who play a similar tighter role from what I've seen, like Watnow.

Remember we have FPN who will probably get a gig in that role also.

yes agreed with that.
dont like fpn though. especially at lock

[stsae]

yes agreed with that.
dont like fpn though. especially at lock

The way I look at the back row now is one each side usually inside the centers and one mostly up the middle, like an extra prop really, but with that ability to drift a little wider on occasion.

IMO Cordner, FPN, Arona, Bosden even at a pinch JWH could do it, they are our lock/prop style player. Blokes that Can play 80 if required and can spend some or all of that time at prop if required.

Sure you can easily carry one on the bench who can play a bit of prop. But more than that spoils the balance IMO.

I guess it is where the coach sees them in the pecking order. How they compete pre season. Who is fit come round 1.

And if he wants to go with that setup. He may very well have different plans to what is basically the norm these days.

[Guest]

Depending on if SBW signs or not

11 Aubo
12 Guerra
13 SBW

Cordner Off the bench

Or

11 Guerra
12 Cordner
13 SBW

I beleive SBW will play lock just be more involved in the game ...

Cordner is an edge player .. where he played during his junior days!!

[Guest]

Cordner 13, Guerra 11, SBW 12.
FPN and Taka on the bench with Aubbo 18th man.

I think your right.

[Guest]

No no's that shouldn't be considered after this year.

Maubs, Mini, FPN, Symonds, Masoe.

Maybes(depending if they fire then give them a spot)

SKD, Tasi, Arona

Definites

RTS, Pearce, JWH, Tupou, SBW, Maloney, Cordner, Guerra etc.

Benchers and people who should be considered e.g people prefer a centre(Moga) on the wing over Oldfield. Please tell me if he was a reserve grader why was he playing in the 17 for Manly? He did alright in my eyes and better defender than all 5 of our backs.